# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 77
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1521 "2012-04-17T16:10:36Z")
1. Mahaloth- No vote activity 2. Believerer- No vote activity 3. Lilflower- No vote activity 4. storyteller0910- No vote activity 5. Suburban Plankton ( **Pendant, Sapphire, Emerald to Suburban Plankton** )\*\* GADARENE\*\* 6. Scathach **TANAER** 7. Fubbleskag VOTE **GADARENE** 8. Weedy ( **Emerald choie, Pendant Normal** ) VOTE **ASTRAL** 9. Gadarene **WEEDY** 10. PetW ( **Ring to PetW** ) VOTE **GADARENE** 11. Astral Rejection ( **Pendant Silver Jan, Sapphire to Fubbleskag** ) VOTE **NORMAL** **PHASE** 12. gnarlycharlie ( **Pendant gnarly** ) **WEEDY** 13. NAF1138 **ABSTAIN** 14. septimus \*\*ASTRAL \*\*( **Emerald to Choie, Pendant to Normal Phase, Sapphire to Lightfoot** ) 15. GuiriEnEspana **ASTRAL** 16. Lightfoot ( **Emerald, Pendant, Sapphire to Lightfoot** ) **SCATHACH** 17. Silver Jan **ASTRAL** 18. choie VOTE \*\*NORMAL \*\*( **Emerald choie, Pendant Silver Jan** ) 19. BobArrgh **BELIEVERER** 20. Tanaer ( **Emerald Tanaer** ) **CHOIE** 21. Red Skeezix VOTE **WEEDY** 22. Normal Phase VOTE \*\*ASTRAL \*\*( **ring choie, pendant normal, sapphire Lightfoot** ) 23. MHaye **ASTRAL** 24. RealityTrip (Emerald choie, Pendant Silver, sapphire Guiri) Vote Normal Phase (not bolded) 25. Visorslash ( **Pendant, Emerald to Visorslash, Sapphire to Fubbleskag** ) **VOTE ASTRAL** 26. ToeJam \*\*ASTRAL \*\*( **Vote Emerald Ring to ToeJam, Sapphire, Pendant to BobARRG** ) 27. Askthepizzaguy \*\*UNVOTE This is what I got.\*\*\*\* See any mistakes, please send me a correction! \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1522 "2012-04-17T16:10:44Z")
I say yes. If they were clearly meant to be counted, no reason to disenfranchise them. Let’s have no hanging chads here! ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1523 "2012-04-17T16:20:53Z")
I’m inclined to count it, but I don’t want to hear any whining if I missed the vote entirely due to it not being bolded. We bold it so I can see it as I’m speed-reading the thread to make a tally, and putting color in it to make absolutely sure it’s eye-catching. It works for a reason. Bold and colored correctly, please. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1524 "2012-04-17T16:24:38Z")
I don’t have a problem either way, but you need to be consistent. I believe there was a vote on Day 1 that was not counted because it was improperly formatted, which would suggest you should continue in that vein. Assuming that counting ‘improper’ votes wouldn’t change the lynch results, I don’t have a problem with changing the policy at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1525 "2012-04-17T16:31:07Z")
Mmm. It wouldn’t be quite fair to change, mid-phase anyway. I’m afraid I can’t count **realitytrip** ’s votes. None of them were formatted correctly. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1526 "2012-04-17T16:37:14Z")
if a vote is not formatted properly, and you miss it shame on them. If you catch it, bonus. ( or will that incite riots?) ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1527 "2012-04-17T16:39:18Z")
That’s how I’d like to do it next round, because I’ve been good about actually seeing the unbolded votes among the massive walls of text, but if I miss it, I really can’t hear complaints about it. I just can’t change the rules mid-phase, so if there are no strong objections I’d like to implement it next phase. This phase it’s tough luck and all that. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1528 "2012-04-17T16:40:31Z")
I have a couple corrections to the votes, I think: > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > 1. Fubbleskag VOTE **GADARENE** fubbleskag also voted the Emerald Ring to Visorslash in Post 779 > [@fubbleskag](#): > > goddamnit. > **Vote: Emerald ring to Visorslash** > [@](#): > > 1. Silver Jan **ASTRAL** Silver Jan placed votes for the Items in Post 1226 > [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > Oh and > > **Emerald Ring : Gaderene > Blue Pendant: Silver Jan > Sapphire Ring: Normal Phase** I may have missed unvotes on these somewhere along the line… ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1529 "2012-04-17T16:41:34Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > That’s how I’d like to do it next round, because I’ve been good about actually seeing the unbolded votes among the massive walls of text, but if I miss it, I really can’t hear complaints about it. > > I just can’t change the rules mid-phase, so if there are no strong objections I’d like to implement it next phase. This phase it’s tough luck and all that. Sounds good to me. ---
**Author:** ![realitytrip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@realitytrip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/realitytrip)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1530 "2012-04-17T16:58:31Z")
Ok. My fuck up. And that’s fair, because I see Mosier’s vote did not count in round one. For the record, I really, really wish that the bold rule was in the original rules at the start. After reviewing, I finally found it in post 149. Sorry guys. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1531 "2012-04-17T17:03:07Z")
I know from checking my tally sheet that those votes weren’t placed and then unvoted, else I would have noted that to myself that they unvoted, for experience level purposes. Those corrections are both valid and very helpful, thanks a zillion, Suburban Plankton. Keeping the tally straight in this game is a beast, that’s why I’m in no hurry to proceed. This looks correct to me. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1532 "2012-04-17T17:03:38Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Sounds good to me. I agree with it as well. of course the Mod can tweak any rules as he sees fit ( I read that somewhere) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1533 "2012-04-17T17:05:17Z")
> [@realitytrip](#): > > Ok. My fuck up. And that’s fair, because I see Mosier’s vote did not count in round one. For the record, I really, really wish that the bold rule was in the original rules at the start. After reviewing, I finally found it in post 149. Sorry guys. As with the other bad vote, it will still count for experience, just not for the tally. Officially it’s counted as an abstain. So it’s not so bad. What I want to do after posting the writeup, and after every writeup, is a post with links back to the game rules, game mechanics information, previous writeups, and any pertinent corrections (such as the writeup mistake Day One) or game announcements. This way, assuming everyone reads my writeups, you will also have convenient links back to every single Game-related Highly Important Information post. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1534 "2012-04-17T17:06:16Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > I know from checking my tally sheet that those votes weren’t placed and then unvoted, else I would have noted that to myself that they unvoted, for experience level purposes. > > Those corrections are both valid and very helpful, thanks a zillion, Suburban Plankton. > > Keeping the tally straight in this game is a beast, that’s why I’m in no hurry to proceed. This looks correct to me. Weedy should get cracking with that vote counting script she mentioned awhile back. 😉 It helps amazingly in POG. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1535 "2012-04-17T17:07:49Z")
**Corrected Official tally, before special effects:** 1. Mahaloth- No vote activity 2. Believerer- No vote activity 3. Lilflower- No vote activity 4. storyteller0910- No vote activity 5. Suburban Plankton ( **Pendant, Sapphire, Emerald to Suburban Plankton** )\*\* GADARENE\*\* 6. Scathach **TANAER** 7. Fubbleskag VOTE **GADARENE** (**Emerald ring to Visorslash)** 8. Weedy ( **Emerald choie, Pendant Normal** ) VOTE **ASTRAL** 9. Gadarene **WEEDY** 10. PetW ( **Ring to PetW** ) VOTE **GADARENE** 11. Astral Rejection ( **Pendant Silver Jan, Sapphire to Fubbleskag** ) VOTE **NORMAL** **PHASE** 12. gnarlycharlie ( **Pendant gnarly** ) **WEEDY** 13. NAF1138 **ABSTAIN** 14. septimus \*\*ASTRAL \*\*( **Emerald to Choie, Pendant to Normal Phase, Sapphire to Lightfoot** ) 15. GuiriEnEspana **ASTRAL** 16. Lightfoot ( **Emerald, Pendant, Sapphire to Lightfoot** ) **SCATHACH** 17. Silver Jan **ASTRAL** ( **Emerald Ring : Gaderene, Blue Pendant: Silver Jan, Sapphire Ring: Normal Phase** ) 18. choie VOTE \*\*NORMAL \*\*( **Emerald choie, Pendant Silver Jan** ) 19. BobArrgh **BELIEVERER** 20. Tanaer ( **Emerald Tanaer** ) **CHOIE** 21. Red Skeezix VOTE **WEEDY** 22. Normal Phase VOTE \*\*ASTRAL \*\*( **ring choie, pendant normal, sapphire Lightfoot** ) 23. MHaye **ASTRAL** 24. RealityTrip (Emerald choie, Pendant Silver, sapphire Guiri) Vote Normal Phase (not bolded) 25. Visorslash ( **Pendant, Emerald to Visorslash, Sapphire to Fubbleskag** ) **VOTE ASTRAL** 26. ToeJam \*\*ASTRAL \*\*( **Vote Emerald Ring to ToeJam, Sapphire, Pendant to BobARRG** ) 27. Askthepizzaguy \*\*UNVOTE \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1536 "2012-04-17T17:10:05Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > Mmm. It wouldn’t be quite fair to change, mid-phase anyway. > > I’m afraid I can’t count **realitytrip** ’s votes. None of them were formatted correctly. So by my count this means the Pendant goes to \*\*Normal \*\*instead of **Jan** (pending any secret votes, double votes, etc.). ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1537 "2012-04-17T17:15:46Z")
Since I’m still technically not dead, one final piece of advice for my townie brethren. Look at people who appear to be doing an excellent job of helping town. When the scum aren’t killing them, consider what that means. I have nobody in mind to point to, it’s just something I wanted to remind you guys of. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1538 "2012-04-17T17:17:04Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > Weedy should get cracking with that vote counting script she mentioned awhile back. 😉 It helps amazingly in POG. Somebody wrote a Google Chrome extension for counting Mafia votes, that’s specific to the SDMB. At least, I think that’s what it is. Anyway, I have it installed on my laptop at home, but it’s not on the one I use for work, where I’m posting from now. Which makes me think maybe it’s not a Chrome extension, because those should be synced. Unless it only works on the Dev channel. Does this sound familiar to anyone else, or have I finally lost it completely? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1539 "2012-04-17T17:18:42Z")
Assuming I live that long. Astral’s sounding ominous. I don’t think he likes me very much. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1540 "2012-04-17T17:19:22Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > So by my count this means the Pendant goes to \*\*Normal \*\*instead of **Jan** (pending any secret votes, double votes, etc.). I don’t mind if it goes to **Normal** , I just wanted some jewels 🙂 I think that Pizzamod has to stick with the rules that were in play on D1 unless the majority agree to change them. I have screwed up votes/unvotes about a hundred times and then quiver in fear when I have to change them. Players usually notice a messed up vote and will shout out about it (what an awful sentence). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=76) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=78)