# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1541 "2012-04-17T17:25:36Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> Assuming I live that long. Astral’s sounding ominous. I don’t think he likes me very much.

What is objectively wrong with my advice?

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1542 "2012-04-17T17:28:40Z")

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Nothing, actually. I wrote that comment in response to me getting voted the pendant.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1543 "2012-04-17T17:33:08Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> Nothing, actually. I wrote that comment in response to me getting voted the pendant.

Haha, you think it’s ominous and I rather like it, I hope it isn’t full of poison or something equally sinister.

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1544 "2012-04-17T17:39:46Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> Somebody wrote a Google Chrome extension for counting Mafia votes, that’s specific to the SDMB. At least, I think that’s what it is. Anyway, I have it installed on my laptop at home, but it’s not on the one I use for work, where I’m posting from now.
> 
> Which makes me think maybe it’s not a Chrome extension, because those should be synced. Unless it only works on the Dev channel.
> 
> Does this sound familiar to anyone else, or have I finally lost it completely?

> **[Mafia players: SD Mafia Tools (Chrome extension)](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=633629)**
>
> During the last few Mafia games I’ve played, I found myself wanting to be able to quickly filter the posts on the current page for various reasons. Today, I decided to package a few of these filters into a Chrome extension (sorry FF/Greasemonkey...

it doesn’t really count votes, but does allow for filtering of posts to only those containing votes - pretty sure the vote requires bold and/or color, can’t remember.

also, did I ever update that to include the newer version with a drop-down list of players rather than having to input the name manually? if not, I can re-upload.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1545 "2012-04-17T17:58:36Z")

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Does anyone have a clock or a countdown timer thing? That really helps us lot that are outside the US.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1546 "2012-04-17T18:17:43Z")

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**LYNCH**

**Astral Rejection: 10**  
Gadarene: 3  
Weedy: 2  
Normal Phase: 2  
Tanaer: 1  
Scathach: 1  
Believerer: 1  
Choie: 1  
Abstain/Present/Unvoted: 2  
No tiebreaker needed.

**Blue Pendant:**

**Normal Phase: 4**  
Silver Jan: 3  
Visorslash: 2  
gnarly: 1  
Lightfoot: 1  
BobAargh: 1  
Suburban Plankton: 1  
No tiebreaker needed.

**Sapphire Ring:**

**Lightfoot: 4**  
Fubbleskag: 3  
Normal Phase: 1  
BobAargh: 1  
Suburban Plankton: 1  
No tiebreaker needed.

\*\*Emerald Ring: \*\*

**choie: 5**  
Visorslash: 3  
PetW: 1  
Lightfoot: 1  
Gadarene: 1  
Tanaer: 1  
ToeJam: 1  
Suburban Plankton: 1  
No tiebreaker needed.\*\*  
Tally has been double-checked and all vote effects are taken into consideration.  
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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1547 "2012-04-17T18:36:31Z")

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so it’s Astral +3  
Weedy -1

or did I screw that up?

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1548 "2012-04-17T18:37:27Z")

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Current Status:  
Experience Level ups have been recorded.  
Item changing hands have been recorded (PM notifications not sent yet)  
Attacks and Day actions have been recorded.  
Role switches have been recorded.

TO DO LIST:  
Day Two Writeup  
ModSummary of Rules, Mechanics, Writeups, Announcements, and Corrections to date.  
PM notifications of role switches and item switches  
Any other corrections or notifications  
Continue being handsome.

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1549 "2012-04-17T18:39:47Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> so it’s Astral +3  
> Weedy -1
> 
> or did I screw that up?

yes I think I did

Astral +2  
Weedy -1  
Did anyone get a - vote yesterDay?

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1550 "2012-04-17T18:42:41Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> so it’s Astral +3  
> Weedy -1
> 
> or did I screw that up?

Weedy should be at 3 votes, or no changes. That’s my mistake, should not be at -1.

**Astral should be at +2** , my count has him at **10** still. I triple-checked to make sure. I believe my count was correct and you had the error here. Can you double-check yours?

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1551 "2012-04-17T18:43:18Z")

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Not that I noticed. How bizarre. **Pizza can you confirm that’s not an error?**

What sort of items do you have, Weedy?  
The rest matches yesterday, not counting the non-appearance of the extra Pizza votes.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1552 "2012-04-17T18:43:56Z")

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I’ve noted the differences between my vote tally and the ‘Official’ numbers  
**Astral Rejection: 10** - The ‘triple vote’ appears to be here  
I have Astral Rejection (7): [del]Pizza (1027-1197)[/del], [del]Pizza (1027-1197)[/del], [del]Pizza (1027-1197)[/del], [del]Normal Phase (1035-1213)[/del], [del]septimus (1141-1332)[/del], Silver Jan (1202), Visorslash (1203), Guiri (1218), [del]choie (1229-1411)[/del], Tanaer (1231-1345), ToeJam (1234), Normal Phase (1368), septimus (1405), MHaye (1449), Weedy (1457), **extra vote, extra vote, extra vote**

Gadarene: 3

Weedy: 2 - It looks like Weedy lost a vote?  
I have Weedy (3): Red Skeezix (995), gnarlycharlie (1041), Gadarene (1461)

Normal Phase: 2  
Tanaer: 1  
Scathach: 1  
Believerer: 1  
Choie: 1

Abstain/Present/Unvoted: 2 - there is one extra vote here, as NAF1138 is the only person to have voted ‘Abstain’.

No tiebreaker needed.

**Blue Pendant:**

**Normal Phase: 4**  
Silver Jan: 3

Visorslash: 2 - another extra vote here  
I have Visorslash (1): Visorslash (770)

gnarly: 1  
Lightfoot: 1  
BobAargh: 1  
Suburban Plankton: 1  
No tiebreaker needed.

**Sapphire Ring:**

**Lightfoot: 4** - an extra vote here  
I have LightFoot (3): LightFoot (851), septimus (870), Normal Phase (1265)

Fubbleskag: 3 - 2 extra votes here?  
I have fubbleskag (1): Astral Rejection (804)

Normal Phase: 1  
BobAargh: 1  
Suburban Plankton: 1

I also have  
Visorslash (1): Visorslash (770)  
Guiri (1): realitytrip (1181), it appears these votes disappeared?

No tiebreaker needed.

\*\*Emerald Ring: \*\*

**choie: 5**

Visorslash: 3 - 2 extra votes here  
I have Visorslash (1): Visorslash (770-777), fubbleskag (779)

PetW: 1 - this is an extra vote  
Lightfoot: 1  
Gadarene: 1  
Tanaer: 1  
ToeJam: 1  
Suburban Plankton: 1

and I have  
fubbleskag (1): Visorslash (777), which is not here

## No tiebreaker needed.

So it appears, assuming my count was correct, that we have

Triple Vote on Astral Rejection  
One hidden vote change from Weedy to ‘Abstain/Present/No Action’

One hidden vote for Blue Pendant to Visorslash

One hidden vote for Sapphire Ring to LightFoot  
Two hidden votes for Sapphire ring to fubbleskag  
One hidden unvote for Sapphire Ring from Visorslach  
One hidden unvote for Sapphire Ring from Guiri

Two hidden votes for Emerald Ring to Visorslash  
One hidden unvote for Emerald Ring from fubblekag

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1553 "2012-04-17T18:44:32Z")

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Both non-Pizza extra votes on Astral this time; traitor didn’t bother.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1554 "2012-04-17T18:45:06Z")

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At least it’s not just me. Tally, you’ve angered me for the last time! _shakes fist_

I am being extremely careful with the lynch and item votes, concerning the obvious leaders. I routinely double-check the leaders to make sure the vote counts are valid if they’re even remotely close to each other.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1555 "2012-04-17T18:45:38Z")

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Astral has been obviously town ever since the wagon surge on him two days ago. Let’s keep mislynching, though, by all means. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1556 "2012-04-17T18:47:38Z")

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If you insist.

Seriously, Gadarene, that’s not helpful.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1557 "2012-04-17T18:48:21Z")

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Suburban, re-read your own count for Astral. You have one of the unvotes not struck through, and after you do that, the count should be eight.

Two hidden votes make 10. Double-check that?

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1558 "2012-04-17T18:48:52Z")

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Two things:

1: I need to learn my numbers  
2: I should preview

I had 8 votes counted for Astral, though I had a total marked down of ‘7’ (also, I messed up the coding, but that’s a different problem.

So my count agrees with Pizza’s for Astral, and he seems to have already corrected himself where Weedy is concerned.

So Astral picked up 2 votes, and Weedy neither gained nor lost.

There is still the issue of

Abstain/Present/Unvoted: 2

NAF1138 voted ‘abstain’  
septimus voted ‘present’, but eventually voted for Astral

**Is the count of ‘2’ for ‘Abstain/Present/Unvoted’ correct?**

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1559 "2012-04-17T18:49:16Z")

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Also, if Astral _does_ flip town, the wagon surge on him needs to be examined.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1560 "2012-04-17T18:49:52Z")

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**And how badly did I mess up the item voting?**

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