# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/141 "2012-04-06T19:33:31Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > I would address your vote, except that I can’t find it! Did you vote to kill me? If so, which post number is it? Post 63, though I messed up the format. > [@](#): > > Anyway, my posts might appear to be self conscious because they are in fact self conscious. Is self-consciousness evidence of scummitude? Yes, self-consciousness is often evidence of scummitude. It says so right in the Scumhunters Manual, Chapter 3, Subsection 5, right next to where it warns me not to get too focused on little things on day one lest they wind up distracting me for the whole game. I tend to ignore that one. > [@](#): > > On an unrelated note, vote: Visorslash, because I find Suburban Plankton’s argument about you sort of convincing. (bleached) Okay. That would be this argument? > [@](#): > > That doesn’t make it right. > > Of course, it doesn’t make you Scum, either…just annoying and distracting to the rest of us. Which is fine if you are Scum, but not so much if you’re Town. What do you think he was arguing and why should it make you vote for Visorslash? ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/142 "2012-04-06T19:35:56Z")
The reason I haven’t removed my vote from **Visorslash** is that he OMGUSed **Weedy** , that bugged me a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/143 "2012-04-06T19:36:01Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > ] > Unless a dead player can still “ play” in the background and change their character alignment or such? > > - me thinks the last line may have been a bit over thought \* Maybe, maybe not. I’ve played in more than one game, and so has Pizza, where just such a mechanic existed. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/144 "2012-04-06T19:40:42Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Yes, let’s kill that bastard early. > > Ahem, my actual vote is not for Mahaloth, but for: > > Vote Visorslash From you, lack of reason may actually be a good sign. _scratches head_ Maybe. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/145 "2012-04-06T19:45:39Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > The reason I haven’t removed my vote from **Visorslash** is that he OMGUSed **Weedy** , that bugged me a lot. Do you feel that he is SCUMMY for OMGUSing **Sir Weeds** , or a Jerk for OMGUSing **Weedy**? Because while the two may seem the same, it’s not quite the same. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/146 "2012-04-06T19:45:48Z")
Oh, about glee and his pendant … another thing rather common in the games ATPG has played in and designed that have items? Is thieves. Sometimes thieves that have to know what an item is before they can try to steal it, sometimes thieves that can just steal whatever someone has. So it might be a good idea to be a little cautious about revealing items. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/147 "2012-04-06T19:50:52Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > I have only made one vote. There was nothing for me to unvote for. Egads! :smack: My mistake, I had mistaken Normal Phases’ vote for you as you voting for her in posts 63,65. My apologies, good sir. No further questions, and I will have to amend my records. All these new people, I need to learn you all so I’m more familiar with everyone here… It’s just a blur of names for an old senile man… ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/148 "2012-04-06T19:52:51Z")
> [@ToeJam](#): > > Do you feel that he is SCUMMY for OMGUSing **Sir Weeds** , or a Jerk for OMGUSing **Weedy**? > > Because while the two may seem the same, it’s not quite the same. I think he could be both, that is why I have not unvoted him, but then again I have never played with him before (no pun intended) and it could just be his style. Overall though, I find it quite a scummy thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/149 "2012-04-06T19:55:01Z")
> [@ToeJam](#): > > **Mod-What’s the Formatting Rules here about Votes and Unvoting?** **Vote: PlayerA Unvote: PlayerA, Vote: PlayerB Unvote, Vote: Player A** Are acceptable. Blue is the custom here, but there may be multiple things to vote on per round, and some of them might be blue. Bold is required, color may be required for certain votes. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/150 "2012-04-06T19:55:19Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > From you, lack of reason may actually be a good sign. _scratches head_ Maybe. Certainly for me, anyway. So I’ll leave it at this. I agree with what has been said previously. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/151 "2012-04-06T19:55:42Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > Primarily I see not the motivation for sharing such words. > > it’s " 'ello, here’s a partial claim-bye" A Thousand pardons, my fair maiden. I was mocking you. But in the nicest way possible. 🙂 : curtsies : Thank you for clarifying your confusion though. I hope you will take my jests with a grain of sugar, for I never mean them in harm, merely bemusement, usually mine own. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/152 "2012-04-06T19:59:58Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > 1. Astral’s came late and seemed more self-conscious about entering into the flow of the thread. It seemed like he thought about how to construct his opening post before making it. Clearly I’m way more tentative than you are, but… isn’t this what everyone does? I mean, I know what I’m about to say now, and I knew it before I hit “reply.” Is that suspcious? Do you really just click “reply” with no clue about what you’re gonna say, and then let your fingers randomly hit the keyboard in hopes that whatever you write has something to do with the previous posts? In any event I really don’t want my grudge vote on **septimus** to be taken as serious mistrust, because I have no read on him whatsoever yet. I fully admit there’s nothing I’d like more than to lynch a Scum **septimus** , but it’s too early for me to make a call, especially with so low a post count on his part. So… **unvote septimus** … That said, I’m a little astonished that people ( **septimus** and **glee** ) are already posting about posessions, which I guess is a kind of handshake attempt? Isn’t that precipitate? And as long as annoying posting styles are getting dinged, I’m casting a wary glance at **ToeJam**. Because I think s/he’s trying to hard to take objection to **Astral** ’s punny post, I shall instead **vote Gadarene** ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/153 "2012-04-06T20:01:39Z")
NETA: I admit I’m also looking askance at **ToeJam** for not knowing what ‘bemusement’ means. ---
**Author:** ![realitytrip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@realitytrip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/realitytrip)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/154 "2012-04-06T20:10:03Z")
Greetings, fellow adventurers! I see the talk is already flowing fast and furious. I am used to playing werewolf in person, its going to take me a little while to catch on to the customs here, I hope you will bear with me. The first day is pretty much my least favorite part of the game. No one has any past behavior to go on (outside of meta-gaming, of course) and so anything out of the ordinary comes up to great scrutiny. I find the quick judgment to vote a bit disturbing…two or three lines and you are on the chopping block? For my part, I don’t feel ready to vote for anyone just yet. The day is young. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/155 "2012-04-06T20:13:31Z")
> [@choie](#): > > NETA: I admit I’m also looking askance at **ToeJam** for not knowing what ‘bemusement’ means. Oh dear, he must have been discombobulated or bamboozled by not knowing what bemused meant, poor guy! ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/156 "2012-04-06T20:20:30Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Clearly I’m way more tentative than you are, but… isn’t this what everyone does? I mean, I know what I’m about to say now, and I knew it before I hit “reply.” Is that suspcious? Do you really just click “reply” with no clue about what you’re gonna say, and then let your fingers randomly hit the keyboard in hopes that whatever you write has something to do with the previous posts? > > In any event I really don’t want my grudge vote on **septimus** to be taken as serious mistrust, because I have no read on him whatsoever yet. I fully admit there’s nothing I’d like more than to lynch a Scum **septimus** , but it’s too early for me to make a call, especially with so low a post count on his part. So… > > **unvote septimus** > > … That said, I’m a little astonished that people ( **septimus** and **glee** ) are already posting about posessions, which I guess is a kind of handshake attempt? Isn’t that precipitate? > > And as long as annoying posting styles are getting dinged, I’m casting a wary glance at **ToeJam**. > > Because I think s/he’s trying to hard to take objection to **Astral** ’s punny post, I shall instead > > **vote Gadarene** Townies are generally more relaxed and free-flowing in how they post; scum are generally more self-conscious about how what they’re saying sounds, especially when it’s their first post in the thread or their first post for the Day. I don’t see how I’m trying too hard to take objection to Astral’s post. I was asked why I voted Astral, and I explained myself. _shrug_ ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/157 "2012-04-06T20:25:37Z")
> [@glee](#): > > I declare I am a Soldier and have a Blue Pendant. > Does anyone know what it does? > > I understand that I can increase my level if I vote (even if I unvote later.) > Therefore I begin with: > > Vote NAF1138\* > > and continue > > Unvote NAF1138 > > \*I have no reason to choose him, except we’ve talked here in the past. > > For your amusement: I have had a dream from the night that I have been in towns a couple of times before. I have always been honourable and I have always been lynched. :eek: > [@LightFoot](#): > > Primarily I see not the motivation for sharing such words. > > it’s " 'ello, here’s a partial claim-bye" > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Oh, about glee and his pendant … > > another thing rather common in the games ATPG has played in and designed that have items? Is thieves. Sometimes thieves that have to know what an item is before they can try to steal it, sometimes thieves that can just steal whatever someone has. So it might be a good idea to be a little cautious about revealing items. Actually I want to know whether my Pendant has any use to the Town. If so, the quicker I find out, the better. I mentioned I was a Soldier as I expect Mages will be better at Identifying objects. Also I’m in the UK, so will not overlap in time with most players. Therefore I’m going to be direct. (If you would rather I made cheese puns, I can get a nice Stilton in Tilton…) > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > **Vote: PlayerA > Unvote: PlayerA, Vote: PlayerB > Unvote, Vote: Player A** > > Are acceptable. > > Blue is the custom here, but there may be multiple things to vote on per round, and some of them might be blue. Bold is required, color may be required for certain votes. OK, just to get it right for my level gain: **Vote NAF1138** **Unvote NAF1138** ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/158 "2012-04-06T20:31:26Z")
@\*\* glee\*\*, YAY you are only one hour behind me, I can chat during normal waking hours!!! ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/159 "2012-04-06T20:33:56Z")
Thanks Silver Jan. Actually I’m retired - so my waking hours can be flexible. 🙂 [Sherlock Holmes ON] 1 hour away and called Jan - are you from the Netherlands by any chance? [Sherlock Holmes OFF] ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/160 "2012-04-06T20:37:08Z")
> [@glee](#): > > Thanks Silver Jan. > Actually I’m retired - so my waking hours can be flexible. 🙂 > > [Sherlock Holmes ON] 1 hour away and called Jan - are you from the Netherlands by any chance? [Sherlock Holmes OFF] I’m from South Africa but I was born in England, we came here when I was 5. My maiden name is Holmes btw so uncle Sherlock is close to me lol [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=9)