# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 81
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1601 "2012-04-17T22:12:32Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > For the record, I doubt that we can ‘kill’ another player by reducing him to 0 HP…but I’ll bet that will have some other impact (perhaps removing their ability to vote, or their ability to take any Actions). I’ve gotta disagree here, **Suburban Plankton**. I don’t think there’s much point in having hp as a stat unless reducing it to zero is a real, and thus fatal, possiblity. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1602 "2012-04-17T22:24:02Z")
> [@choie](#): > > I’ve gotta disagree here, **Suburban Plankton**. I don’t think there’s much point in having hp as a stat unless reducing it to zero is a real, and thus fatal, possiblity. I gotta agree with this one. 0 seems like Dead is dead. It’s basically a built in Vig/SK/Extra Scum kill mechanism- which is why the power should not be bandied about lightly. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1603 "2012-04-17T22:29:52Z")
I have done a whole lot of updates privately. [ul] [li] **If you are expecting a brand new role PM (i.e. your changes have been so significant that you need me to send you one, or, you have a new character class and it was expected by the end of Day Two, not the end of Night Two) then send me a PM asking for a fresh role PM. If yours is due at the start of Day Three, don’t ask for it yet please.**[/li][li]\*\* If you \*absolutely \*need a new one anyway, send me a message.**[/li][li]** If you were expecting feedback regarding an action or other request, and did not receive it yet, PM me.**[/li][li]** If you asked a question privately and I overlooked it/neglected to Pm you back promptly, PM me now.\*\*[/li][/ul] Current Status: Experience Level ups have been recorded. Item changing hands have been recorded Attacks and Day actions have been recorded. Role switches have been recorded. Day Two Writeup PM notifications of role switches and item switches TO DO LIST: ModSummary of Rules, Mechanics, Writeups, Announcements, and Corrections to date. Any other corrections or notifications Continue being handsome. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1604 "2012-04-17T22:47:34Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > Continue being handsome. Surely you need no reminder to do this? We all know it comes naturally to you. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1605 "2012-04-17T22:50:10Z")
Modsummary of Game-relevant posts so far: > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > **Game rules:** > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > **How To Play guide** > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > **Wrath of the Demon Lord-** rule > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > (Night Zero) > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > **FAQ/Question and answer session.** > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > **We’re about ready to get started, but before we do, I need to announce some game-mechanic-related information:** > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > (Day One) > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > (Night One) > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > **Missing from update** : (Apologies, still working out how this all works…) > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > \*\*Red Skeezix \*\ ***takes 60hp damage.** > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > **I have a big fat error in my list of actions. :smack:** > **BobArrgh, you take 25 damage. Glee takes none.** :smack::smack: > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > (Day Two) > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > GAME ANNOUNCEMENT > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > (Night Two) To read any given post, click on the little arrow in the quote box. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1606 "2012-04-17T22:53:22Z")
> [@choie](#): > > I’ve gotta disagree here, **Suburban Plankton**. I don’t think there’s much point in having hp as a stat unless reducing it to zero is a real, and thus fatal, possiblity. > [@ToeJam](#): > > I gotta agree with this one. 0 seems like Dead is dead. It’s basically a built in Vig/SK/Extra Scum kill mechanism- which is why the power should not be bandied about lightly. It’s entirely possible. But this is why I think it’s not the case. True, it would be a “built in Vig/SK/Extra Scum kill mechanism”, and that’s my problem with it. Because to be slightly more precise, it would be a “Collective Vig/SK/Extra Scum Day/Night Kill mechanism”. And since it doesn’t appear that attackers’ identities are generally made public, there would be virtually no way to determine accountability for such kills. On the other hand, Pizza did promise us “mass confusion”…and this certainly would fit the bill. And even if attacking another player can’t result in a “kill”, I’m pretty certain it can result in something “undesirable”, so it’s still something that shouldn’t be used lightly. One other thing: as I recall D&D (it’s been a few years), you don’t \*die \*at 0HP, you’re only knocked unconscious. You die at -10 HP. Whether or not that mechanism has made its way here, who knows? ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1607 "2012-04-17T22:55:22Z")
**Rule clarification:** In the rules, “rounds” are referred to interchangeably as days, nights, or the entire day/night package. This is in error, particularly when referring to experience and character switches. If you switch your role during the day, such that you become the new role by the start of night phase, that takes place instead of level up even if you qualify for a level up that round. You don’t level, because you’re not gaining a level as your current class. If you wait until night to switch (as everyone has so far) then you will level during the day, and have your new role by the start of the next day. If anything else related to “rounds” needs clarification, please PM me. The word “round” is not specific enough, it should be phase (for day, or night) or Day/Night cycle. That would be more precise. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1608 "2012-04-17T23:20:54Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > ## True, it would be a “built in Vig/SK/Extra Scum kill mechanism”, and that’s my problem with it. Because to be slightly more precise, it would be a “Collective Vig/SK/Extra Scum Day/Night Kill mechanism”. And since it doesn’t appear that attackers’ identities are generally made public, there would be virtually no way to determine accountability for such kills. > > One other thing: as I recall D&D (it’s been a few years), you don’t \*die \*at 0HP, you’re only knocked unconscious. You die at -10 HP. Whether or not that mechanism has made its way here, who knows? Au Contraine, mon Plankton. As we’ve seen the Damage reports give us a general indication of the TYPE of attacks used (physical vs. Magical), as well as the amounts of damage they do. We know already different classes/types do different types of damages and we can use that to track people. I got hit by 25 physical dmg. i can try to guess that I was probably attacked by a Soldier toDay. That can start to help eliminate things, and then there’s things like elements and damage reduction that can play into it. I think the attacks can be traceable. 2. I thought about that as well: the -10 thing in D&D, however, I don’t know if \*\*AskthePIzzaGuy \*\*is that into D&D to factor that part in… I’m sure we’ll eventually find out the answer soon enough. Especially if people keeping dinging me slowly each Day. i get none of the \*\*Visorslash \*\*Love ☹ Maybe I need to start insulting the rest of you instead of D.L? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1609 "2012-04-17T23:22:06Z")
Farewell Astral. Give 'em hell in the afterlife. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1610 "2012-04-17T23:26:44Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Farewell Astral. Give 'em hell in the afterlife. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1611 "2012-04-17T23:30:21Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Farewell Astral. > > So, Visorslash, who did you target, Lord Phere or Choie? Per our discussion earlier, why didnt you ask that of ToeJam? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1612 "2012-04-17T23:31:56Z")
> [@Believerer](#): > > Okay so I have read through the thread now, coming to no conclusive answer to either the question of who is town or who is scum. Mind you that I am a bad mafia player, I’ll get a lot (most) things wrong. > > I believe Normal Phase to be town, but could use some pressure on the next vote. You’re leaning town on me but think I need vote pressure? Explain, unless you meant something else. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1613 "2012-04-17T23:32:58Z")
> [@choie](#): > > _Ave Atque Vale_, **Astral**. You were railroaded by certain parties and your stirring death speech will not be in vain. Attention will be paid. You can use my name, you know. I’m right here. Did you attack fubbleskag? ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1614 "2012-04-18T00:08:03Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Per our discussion earlier, why didnt you ask that of ToeJam? What discussion would that be with **Guiri** , **Normal**? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1615 "2012-04-18T00:14:35Z")
I exchanged a couple of PMs with him; you were a subject of discussion. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1616 "2012-04-18T00:29:03Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > It’s a reference to the tie-breaker mechanism. And it Mod confirms that there are Double voters ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1617 "2012-04-18T00:32:04Z")
> [@Believerer](#): > > Okay so I have read through the thread now, coming to no conclusive answer to either the question of who is town or who is scum. Mind you that I am a bad mafia player, I’ll get a lot (most) things wrong. > > I believe Normal Phase to be town, but could use some pressure on the next vote. > > I find that Visorslash is pretty fishy, he could be third party or town, I don’t know yet. > > The rest I am pretty much in the dark about. Is there a reason you don’t think he is Scum? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1618 "2012-04-18T00:32:18Z")
Well yeah I guess. I didn’t really need that confirmed. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1619 "2012-04-18T00:35:46Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > You’re leaning town on me but think I need vote pressure? Explain, unless you meant something else. I don’t quite track the statement either. (the bit from believerer I mean) ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1620 "2012-04-18T00:36:47Z")
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