# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1621 "2012-04-18T00:38:53Z")

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LOL.

Same role as me, Visor? Or something else? How are we to figure this out without breaking the handshaking rule? Does it matter?

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1622 "2012-04-18T00:40:59Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> Well yeah I guess. I didn’t really need that confirmed.

Well, you know, just because you say you knew (\* or have discovered however that works \*) you could do it, means nothing to the rest of us ( sans others that may)

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**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1623 "2012-04-18T00:42:29Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> LOL.
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> Same role as me, Visor? Or something else? How are we to figure this out without breaking the handshaking rule? Does it matter?

I think we are the same role. PM if you want I suppose.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1624 "2012-04-18T00:42:39Z")

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Yeah, I know Lightfoot. I’m just saying why that didn’t occur to me as being yours (or Pizza’s) meaning. I thought he was referring to the timing of the doubled vote for tie-break purposes.

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1625 "2012-04-18T00:43:15Z")

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> [@Visorslash](#):
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> I don’t think I’m welcome anymore. 😃

You are being hurt and healed you are a pivot point currently.

Heck you’re still alive \* someone - or 2 \* must want you around.

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1626 "2012-04-18T00:44:22Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> Yeah, I know Lightfoot. I’m just saying why that didn’t occur to me as being yours (or Pizza’s) meaning. I thought he was referring to the timing of the doubled vote for tie-break purposes.

It was as I read it in the context you cite. But it also confirmed the existance of same. ( does that make sense?)

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1627 "2012-04-18T00:44:24Z")

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I have to put the kiddo to bed in a couple of minutes; it can wait. But I’m guessing you didn’t find “continue on the lawful path” appealing. (Not a quote or even really a paraphrase, for the record.)

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1628 "2012-04-18T00:45:27Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> It was as I read it in the context you cite. But it also confirmed the existance of same. ( does that make sense?)

Yep.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1629 "2012-04-18T00:46:43Z")

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Post 1627 was @ Visorslash, if that wasn’t clear.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1630 "2012-04-18T00:49:21Z")

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In case anyone’s wondering, there are really cool things along any of the Law, Neutral, or Chaotic paths. I didn’t make one alignment objectively crappier than the others.

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**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1631 "2012-04-18T00:56:15Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> Post 1627 was @ Visorslash, if that wasn’t clear.

I attacked Choie. I am not interested in the lawful path, yes, I never was. Chaotic sounds cooler.

Can you please stop trying to kill me?

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1632 "2012-04-18T00:58:30Z")

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Boo, you have poor reading comprehension. I never attacked you. I protected Guiri, then fubs.

Did you begin as lawful?

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1633 "2012-04-18T00:58:53Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> I exchanged a couple of PMs with him; you were a subject of discussion.

Kinky. A Three way.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1634 "2012-04-18T01:00:05Z")

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😃

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1635 "2012-04-18T01:01:39Z")

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> [@Visorslash](#):
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> I attacked Choie.

Oh, I do \*so \*love irony.

> [@Visorslash](#):
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> I am not interested in the lawful path

Rather lucky for you that others don’t feel the same way, huh?

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**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1636 "2012-04-18T01:04:17Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> Boo, you have poor reading comprehension. I never attacked you. I protected Guiri, then fubs.
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> Did you begin as lawful?

I wasn’t talking to you, I was talking to the players in the game in general.

@ Choie

I attacked you, so what? I attack who I find suspicious. And I didn’t feel like attacking Lord Phere this round.

I was Neutral/Neutral.

Now Neutral/Chaotic.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1637 "2012-04-18T01:07:19Z")

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Cool beans. We’re not the same role, though. Any particular reason you’re whacking choie?

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**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1638 "2012-04-18T01:08:18Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> Cool beans. We’re not the same role, though. Any particular reason you’re whacking choie?

What role are you? PM me.

I don’t trust the content of his/her posts. You’ve already pointed out the scumminess in some of them.

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1639 "2012-04-18T01:17:09Z")

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> [@Visorslash](#):
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> @ Choie
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> I attacked you, so what? I attack who I find suspicious.

Sure, no biggie. I was just enjoying a wry chuckle at this revelation, more at my own expense than yours.

Though as it turns out, it’s poor **Guiri** who paid the price for your attack, which is a shame. Though at least I can say we’re now even.

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**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1640 "2012-04-18T03:48:58Z")

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Where I’m at the moment:

Town - (manipulate away, ToeJam)  
Tanaer  
PetW

strongish Town lean  
\<redacted for cultural sensitivity, just ask me if you want to know, but I doubt anyone cares except maybe Gadarene\>

Slight Town lean  
\<redacted for cultural sensitivity, just ask me if you want to know, but I doubt anyone cares except maybe Gadarene\>

Scum lean  
mhaye (trending up)  
Red Skeezix  
Toe Jam

There’s a bunch of people that I have no read on and a bunch of lurkers that I don’t know what to do with. I’m going to try and put some of my neutrals into categories.

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