# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 83
**Author:** ![BobArrgh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobarrgh/32/2881_2.png) [@BobArrgh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobArrgh)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1641 "2012-04-18T04:44:12Z")
[oog] I’ve read the stuff from toDay and toNight, but I am unable to provide any clear and cogent thought. I have been at work for over 15 hours now, working with our New York team to roll a huge fundraising site for the US Olympic Team that debuts tomorrow on the Today Show. I am located in Kansas City, but was asked to stay at the office to provide any needed support. We are in the final stages of rolling to production, so hopefully I’ll be able to go home and get some sleep soon. [/oog] **Astral** , I’m sorry to see you get mislynched. I hope we can use your sacrifice properly and nail the Scum. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1642 "2012-04-18T05:43:48Z")
Sorry **Astral** , hope you have fun helping **pizzamod**. I did ask\*\* pizzamod\*\* the question as to what happens when you get to zero HP and you do die. That’s why I attacked Lord Phere and not another player. I find it interesting that **Visorslash** has been attacked and healed, I wonder if Town are attacking him and scum are healing him just so that he can be the focus of yet another Day? ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1643 "2012-04-18T07:40:14Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > Weedy should get cracking with that vote counting script she mentioned awhile back. 😉 It helps amazingly in POG. I have delegated this task to BobArrgh, seeing as I know nothing about computer programming. Speaking of Bob, he was on my list to review. I had some doubts about him but thiss post seems very Townie to me: > [@BobArrgh](#): > > I didn’t want to say why I protected **Glee** because doing so will expose my Elemental alignment. I’m not at all sure what the Elemental alignment means, but I was trying to avoid giving away that piece of information until I knew more about it. However, since it seems to be such a huge freaking deal to everyone, I’ll just say it. > > I am a Townie with an Elemental alignment of Water. I have a blue item. Since **Glee** had a blue item, I inferred that he and I were of the same alignment. I protected him on D1 because I thought that he and I had an affinity through our Elemental alignment. I also wanted to see what using my Guard ability did. > > I still don’t know what the Elemental alignment means. I was (probably naively) assuming that birds of a feather have the same Elemental alignment. That is, if I am Water and Town and I find another Water person, then that person is also Town. I am basically interpreting the Elemental alignment as a sort-of Masonry. > > Exposing my Elemental alignment now opens me up to an Elemental-type attack. > > To show that I’m not pulling this out of a nether orifice, in post #179 I mentioned “Water” twice. Also, in post #647, I also alluded to my Elemental alignment when I said, “ **What’re** you getting at?” > > I’m sure I have made a lot of newbie-type assumptions regarding the Elemental alignment, but this is my first DnD style game I have ever played, so I’m not sure how it all works. I can’t think of a reason why he would protect glee as Scum, and not want to say it. ---
**Author:** ![Believerer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/53a042/32.png) [@Believerer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Believerer)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1644 "2012-04-18T09:24:01Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > You’re leaning town on me but think I need vote pressure? Explain, unless you meant something else. Oh please. You know that I have extreme difficulties to read you, even though we’ve played so many games together. You’re too dangerous to be left alone, even if I think you’re innocent. Which I’m starting to doubt. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1645 "2012-04-18T10:36:55Z")
Why? ---
**Author:** ![Believerer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/53a042/32.png) [@Believerer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Believerer)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1646 "2012-04-18T10:40:13Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Why? Because you know all this but still feel the need to question me, as if to make it clear to everyone that this is the case. This seems fishy to me. Although we have evidence that suggests that you are not in fact scum, such as the very forward position you took in yesterdays lynch. Scum Normal Phase would’ve been laying lower, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1647 "2012-04-18T10:48:05Z")
Yes, though in my case not from any lack of desire to make a pest of myself as scum just as much as town. I just can’t do it. The PIS kills me. I didn’t actually understand where you were coming from on that, though I do now. ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1648 "2012-04-18T10:53:23Z")
WIFOM… god I hate that. You can’t use a lot of info due to WIFOM. ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1649 "2012-04-18T11:00:29Z")
Your post above Normal, WIFOM. On those that are still talking about the triple voter. What he did you cannot regard, it is WIFOM. He could be saving a teammate or he could be framing townies. Who knows. People who are healing me, thank you. Please heal me again, thanks very much. ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1650 "2012-04-18T13:16:09Z")
Realitytrip: scum lean > [@realitytrip](#): > > Greetings, fellow adventurers! I see the talk is already flowing fast and furious. I am used to playing werewolf in person, its going to take me a little while to catch on to the customs here, I hope you will bear with me. > > The first day is pretty much my least favorite part of the game. No one has any past behavior to go on (outside of meta-gaming, of course) and so anything out of the ordinary comes up to great scrutiny. I find the quick judgment to vote a bit disturbing…two or three lines and you are on the chopping block? > > For my part, I don’t feel ready to vote for anyone just yet. The day is young. Nothing here. > [@realitytrip](#): > > First off, some bookkeeping. I am a guy and there are no caps in my name. > > Ok, so I think I have finally caught up with all of the posts. I have to say that I really don’t find the cases for any of the frontrunners convincing. > > **Visorslash** comes off as annoying and slightly antagonistic…but that really seems to be him, as evidenced by other posters from previous games. And would scum really want to come out as antagonistic on day one? Seems far fetched to me.. > > **Gadarene** made a quick call, and defended it. He quickly gained a cast of votes and is still now the frontrunner. I am still not sure why his quick vote gained this wagon, while other quick votes and me toos skated under the radar. I do wish he was involved in the discussion today. > > **Astral Rejection** was a quick target and is now drawing more attention for his vote jump. I find **BobArrgh** ’s argument regarding the fact that scum would be very aware of when the day ends convincing and I don’t think AR is scum (for the moment…) > > So, I can’t really go with any of the wagons. There have been a lot of non contributors so far (including me, I know), but the one poster that has caught my eye is **Mahaloth**. He posted a vote for **Visorslash** and nothing else, which drew attention from **Silver Jan** and **Normal Phase**. His explanation was “I agree with what has been said previously.” The matter was then inexplicably dropped. Now I know it’s day one and there is not much to go on…but I find it hard to believe this vote has been ignored for this long. > > **Vote: Mahaloth** What other players/previous games? Visorslash is new here. Why pick on Mahaloth? This seems like a vote just to have a vote, safely away from any wagons. That’s it for Day 1. > [@realitytrip](#): > > Wow. Just wow. From ATPG’s setup, I knew there would be some hidden powers, but this seems pretty ridiculously strong. There were a total of 5 added votes? Even if the Demon Lord 3 shot was a one time deal, the town will have to win by 3 votes during the day to prevent any voting shenanigans. > > Still processing… I don’t like this, and I find it hard to say why. Maybe because he seems to know what is going on here, and be able to assess it and place it with just one post. He does seem surprised by the power though, so that’s good. > [@realitytrip](#): > > I would love to hear **Inner Stickler** ’s take on his protecting **Visorslash** … You have a Town lean on Visorslash, so why question Inner? SO few posts, and this is what he comments on. > [@realitytrip](#): > > Hmmm…a lot to think about here. At least for me. I know it’s early in the day, but there has been a lot of focus on the items, which may or may not be valuable to most players (obviously if there is a 3rd party with the winning condition to have the most items, that is a different story to them). For my part, I am more than willing to give my vote(s) away to the people that lean town the most to me. > > But I am concerned about the night actions, most of all. There was a lot going on. Visorslash and PetW were attacked by other players. PetW deflected his attack. So he was somehow protected…PetW, do you have a special item or do you think someone may have protected you? > > Either way, that is at least two players with night attacks. > > And then the two kills. One was in battle, which would seem to me to be like a normal scum night kill. The other was slain by magic. Could it be a vig kill, where the vig gains “control” of the demon lord for a night kill? Or a possible one shot extra kill? Town? PFK? > > Thoughts? It would be nice as a collective town to come up with an idea of some of the powers floating around… ‘Collective town’ really pings me here. Also don’t like the PR hunting on PetW. Actually that question about Inner Stickler protecting Visorslash could also be seen that way. The first part of the post is talking about items, and how they aren’t important, so why talk about them? > [@realitytrip](#): > > Damn. There goes my (admittedly small) hope that the triple vote was a one time power. Why is it public on day 2 though? Is it a limitation on the power or is it at the discretion of the user? 😕 Safe, meaningless questions. > [@realitytrip](#): > > As far as I can tell, all anonymous actions are still anonymous. Who healed Guiri? Who protected PetW? Who attacked? All still unknown. > > What does WIFOM stand for? > > In efforts to vote to give items to those that I think are townies: > Vote Emerald Ring To choie > Vote Blue Pendant to Normal Phase > Vote Sapphire Ring to GuiriEnEspana > > I think that the traitor will change his hidden triple vote again, probably try to time it so we can’t react. I don’t think that Astral Rejection will keep those votes. Why on earth would the traitor help lynch someone who is gathering votes and suspicion all on his own? I am tempted to vote for Astral, who likes smudging me, but I still have my doubts as to whether scum would get the timing of end of day so wrong on day one, so I am still hedging on him being town. > > My day one vote was for Mahaloth, but it looks like he has pretty good out of game reasons for his non-participation, and he may be subbed out, so I need to do some more analysis tonight. The part about Astral reads as confused. The traitor helping to lynch someone would imply that person was Town, but then he is tempted to vote Astral. Doesn’t make sense. > [@realitytrip](#): > > So let me get this straight. We have to commit to a bandwagon, but when we do with a halfhearted reason because we are told to choose a wagon dammit, well we’re scum. If we want to pick someone new, we had better have a damn good reason, because otherwise we are just wasting our vote and avoiding responsibility and are scum. I am with Gadarene…yes we need to be suspicious, but more people are town than not, jumping down each other’s throats at the slightest thing is not helping cooperation. > > Well, again, I think all the bandwagons SUCK. I started off thinking Astral was suspicious, but after his posts over the last days, I think he is town. Mostly the tone, I guess. > > I wish PetW would talk about his mysterious protection, but beyond that, the reasons for his wagon (and the disappearance of such) are a mystery to me. > > MHaye seems to have a similar nature to me and is getting roasted for it. Yeah, obviously I am going to go for that wagon. :rolleyes: > > I just don’t have enough of a read of Weedy to want to vote for them. > > Gadarene also just seems town to me… > > So, yeah, maybe its because I’m new or maybe because I’m stupid, but I don’t find the cases for them all that convincing. > > So, screw it. You want to know who I have found suspicious and off-putting the last few days? > > Fine. **Normal Phase** come on up > > I think choie has said it pretty well but this is for your penchant for both wanting people to choose a bandwagon and then roasting them over the coals for doing so, in addition to your abandoning your bandwagon of choice, so you can avoid responsibility for it yourself and have your own pet vote, which you know will never will win this Day. > Vote: Normal Phase > > Oh and for good measure > Unvote Blue Pendant to Normal Phase > Vote Blue Pendant to Silver Jan] Here he says he found Astral suspicious initially, but he actually defended him Day 1. All the aggro, the reason for it, seems to me like Scum reacting to a bad case. Cos they get suspected no matter what they do, and it’s so unfair. I do think Normal wants to have her cake and eat it too. You can’t get band wagons, and also get everyone voting for their strongest Scum lean, with a nicely laid out case. That’s not the way wagons work. There is a tension between wanting a wagon, and wanting Scum to not have a place to hide that makes wagoning tricky. ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1651 "2012-04-18T13:21:55Z")
> [@Visorslash](#): > > Your post above Normal, WIFOM. > > On those that are still talking about the triple voter. What he did you cannot regard, it is WIFOM. He could be saving a teammate or he could be framing townies. Who knows. > > People who are healing me, thank you. Please heal me again, thanks very much. It’s not totally WIFOM, though, because other people have seen Normal play Scum and Town, and might have opinions on whether she plays them differently. The one time I have seen Normal as Scum, she was way more subdued than she was as Town, but I think she had RL issues at the time. Still, I don’t see her playing Town leader quite so vociferously as she is this game. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1652 "2012-04-18T14:53:58Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Boo, you have poor reading comprehension. I never attacked you. I protected Guiri, then fubs. **Guiri** apears to have protected **Inner Stickler** on Day 1, taking 50 HP damage in the process (from Lord Phere, if I’m reading the color correctly) **fubbleskag** was attacked by “a glittering bolt of energy”, which you seem to have blocked completely. So, taking you at your word… You can block ‘magic’ attacks, and you do not suffer damage as a result, as we saw with several folks on Day 1 (see Guiri, above). Your protection does not prevent damage that another person receives while they are in turn protecting a third person. Guiri still received damage (redirected from Inner) even though you were protecting him. Another possibility is that Guiri’s damage was physical (the color is not clear on this), and your protection only extends to magic. I don’t know if this helps us at all, but there it is… ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1653 "2012-04-18T14:59:04Z")
> [@Visorslash](#): > > On those that are still talking about the triple voter. What he did you cannot regard, it is WIFOM. He could be saving a teammate or he could be framing townies. Who knows. So we should disregard it? Sure, it’s WIFOM. So is everything else besides Death reveals, (and with Pizza as a mod I’m not even sure we can trust those). Why do you think we’d be better off ignoring the triple votes? And I don’t believe we know that it’s “a triple voter”. It could be a group of people voting as a bloc, it could be a collective Sum (or other faction) power, or it could be some other game-mechanic based on a trigger we haven’t yet discovered. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1654 "2012-04-18T17:05:31Z")
@ SP – I was told explicitly (once I asked) that I could never have done anything to prevent Guiri’s injury on day one, since he was never attacked. This is what I was referring to yesterDay when I said I had reason to believe I knew what the order of events was in the write-up. Pizza told me outright Guiri was injured due to protecting Inner, meaning it wasn’t meant to be a mystery. Protections don’t keep people from the folly of their own actions, in other words. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1655 "2012-04-18T17:57:28Z")
Weedy, I really like your case on realitytrip. Couple comments once I have some coffee. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1656 "2012-04-18T18:29:35Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > @ SP – I was told explicitly (once I asked) that I could never have done anything to prevent Guiri’s injury on day one, since he was never attacked. This is what I was referring to yesterDay when I said I had reason to believe I knew what the order of events was in the write-up. Pizza told me outright Guiri was injured due to protecting Inner, meaning it wasn’t meant to be a mystery. > > Protections don’t keep people from the folly of their own actions, in other words. That makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![realitytrip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@realitytrip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/realitytrip)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1657 "2012-04-18T18:36:42Z")
Ok, I am at work, and not sure I have the time and energy to respond in a dialogue, but I do want to quickly respond to a few points. > [@Weedy](#): > > Realitytrip: scum lean > > What other players/previous games? Visorslash is new here. He is new **here**. As am I (at least as far as mafia is concerned). He is not new to mafia and here I am specifically referring to a post by Normal Phase where she specifically mentions he is like this in every game they have played. > [@](#): > > Why pick on Mahaloth? This seems like a vote just to have a vote, safely away from any wagons. As I said in the very post you are referring to, I didn’t like any of the wagons. So that means I have to find someone else to target, doesn’t it? > [@](#): > > You have a Town lean on Visorslash, so why question Inner? SO few posts, and this is what he comments on. > > ‘Collective town’ really pings me here. Also don’t like the PR hunting on PetW. Actually that question about Inner Stickler protecting Visorslash could also be seen that way. > > The first part of the post is talking about items, and how they aren’t important, so why talk about them? This is just willful misreading of my post. I said the items probably weren’t important **as a winning condition** (to most players). Of course items are valuable, especially if they protect you from attacks. And forgive me for wanting to find out what items do. I thought the goal of town players was to gather information. > [@](#): > > The part about Astral reads as confused. The traitor helping to lynch someone would imply that person was Town, but then he is tempted to vote Astral. Doesn’t make sense. > > Here he says he found Astral suspicious initially, but he actually defended him Day 1. Hey, here’s something you may have missed. Day 1 in realtime was **several days**. I did initially find Astral suspicious, but, hey, I changed my mind over the course of the Day. Astral posted a LOT and the tone of his initial posts rubbed me the wrong way but as the day went on, he just seemed more and more town to me. As for the voting, I didn’t really think Astral was scum, but I felt there was a greater chance he could be scum than some other people who could be a target of last minute hidden votes which would tilt the lynch. Ultimately, I still cast (or should I say miscast:smack:) my vote elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1658 "2012-04-18T18:47:16Z")
Realitytrip day one: > [@](#): > > Astral Rejection was a quick target and is now drawing more attention for his vote jump. I find BobArrgh’s argument regarding the fact that scum would be very aware of when the day ends convincing and I don’t think AR is scum (for the moment…) middle of day two > [@](#): > > I think that the traitor will change his hidden triple vote again, probably try to time it so we can’t react. I don’t think that Astral Rejection will keep those votes. Why on earth would the traitor help lynch someone who is gathering votes and suspicion all on his own? I am tempted to vote for Astral, who likes smudging me, but I still have my doubts as to whether scum would get the timing of end of day so wrong on day one, so I am still hedging on him being town. More or less OK so far IMO. The next one’s the problem – late day two. > [@](#): > > I started off thinking Astral was suspicious, but after his posts over the last days, I think he is town. Mostly the tone, I guess. Weedy’s right to flag this. There’s nowhere in the game at all that you said anything to indicate you were leaning scum on Astral (much the opposite), and your first post (“starting off” explicitly denied suspicion. This just isn’t right. The other thing: > [@](#): > > Wow. Just wow. From ATPG’s setup, I knew there would be some hidden powers, but this seems pretty ridiculously strong. There were a total of 5 added votes? Even if the Demon Lord 3 shot was a one time deal, the town will have to win by 3 votes during the day to prevent any voting shenanigans. > > Still processing… Weedy gives points for surprise, but look at it – he calls out _five_ added votes, not just three. The surprise could have been from that. And yet when it comes to the town’s need to prevent against vote shenanigans, what number does he use? THREE. Not five. I’m pretty sure that most of those who were commenting on this did tend to lump all five votes together as potentially suspicious, because I know it was driving me crazy at the time trying to keep my mouth shut on my own little bit of PIS about that. Yet realitytrip only worries about the town needing to cover for the THREE. Not mine or Visorslash’s. I think that may actually be PIS on his part. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1659 "2012-04-18T18:48:57Z")
Miscast? Who did you vote for? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1660 "2012-04-18T18:51:16Z")
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