# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 88
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1741 "2012-04-23T03:06:04Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > RT actually has a decent number of posts. Skeezix made two votes in his short period of being around. Choie’s said a lot prior to the night thread. You can do better, surely? nothing poked out at me too much. and it is Night-still- so I’m not as verbose ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1742 "2012-04-23T03:17:04Z")
Before we begin, I’ve been wondering… are we still in the Night phase unitl **pizzaguy** posts the results? Did Day begin already since Night has been declared over? Or are we in some kind of pre-dawn/eclipse phase where neither light nor dark exist? Sort of like in _Ladyhawke_? As an aside … well, not an aside, I guess a preamble: I know I’m continually apologizing this week, but I really am going through some rough RL times at the moment which I should really keep out of the board, or post on MPSIMS, rather than to take my emotions out on you. I learned some horrifically bad news (on Facebook of all things) and I’m just… one big raw open wound right now. Last week I was dealing with a broken relationship with a client/publisher of mine, and now that that’s over with I find myself in the awful position of deciding whether to attend an estranged friend’s funeral or not. Not that this excuses earlier game play, but I’m just saying that any over-emotional, frustrated crap I may have slung from last week until today, and probably until this funeral is over, will not be an accurate reflection of me. > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Well, I really didn’t think I was being bullshitty or hypocritical there – the logic was clear enough in my mind, anyway. PetW had had a substantial bandwagon at one point (that was actually my reason for switching away from him in the first place), and I pointed that out in my big complaint post. I had no reason to believe it might not come again should I try to get it started, and hope to provide more information down the road than just a silly ten person bandwagon on Astral. > > And while I appreciate that a townie could read my complaint post and take it as “everybody get on one and only one bandwagon right now or I will bite you dammit”, please not that’s not actually what I SAID. What I said, and what I actually wanted, was for the non-voters and the people with extraneous votes such as (imo) the ones on fubbleskag, the one on scathach, and any others I’m not thinking of right now, to take a position on someone who WAS a threat to be lynched. Those being, IMO at the time, Astral, MHaye, Weedy, Gadarene and PetW. > > I had no expectation that everyone would join the same bandwagon and didn’t even want it – it was my opinion that there was time enough in the day to sort out two or three options, but not seven or eight. I ultimately left the Astral wagon for the exact same reason I had earlier left PetW’s: it had just kicked up too damn fast and was threatening to run away with the vote by way too much more than necessary, and I hate that. > > Call me a bully if you want, call my methods harmful or anti-town if you feel that way, but at least try to understand where I’m coming from. This actually does sound fair enough. I don’t like being pressured, especially because I continually feel like a child trying to catch up with her class after having missed three crucial weeks of learning algebra. When I feel too much pressure I immediately doubt everything, and suspect others of trying to use my inexperience. I do think you left **Astral** ’s wagon a little earlier than you remember… you’d left after **Visionslash** and **Silver Jan** joined, but before the whole **Guiri** / me / \*\*someone else I can’t remember additions. Discounting the three mystery votes, I don’t think the **Astral** wagon was unstoppable. But either way, your reasoning above makes sense, looking at it dispassionately for once. (See? I _can_ do it! :)) I think there _is_ a clash of playing styles between us, and since you’re practically the doyenne of Mafia around here I would assume your style is probably coming from a far more confident place than mine is… if I can be said to _have_ a style. But more on that below. I do still find that change of votes… really, _all_ your vote changing, because hot damn you did a lot of it yesterDay! :D… scummy, and your dead certainty about **Astral** (particularly after his goodbye speech) really pinged the heck out of me. But the way you put it above, I find your rationale more undersndable; I disagree with it, and did vociferously before **Astral** flipped (so it’s not 20-20 hindsight), but disagreeing doesn’t mean we’re on different sides, overall. Fellow town members can, and usually do, disagree. > [@Weedy](#): > > I think choie’s tone this game is very different to her past couple. She seems to me to be soft-pushing and smudging a lot of people, which is not something I saw her do before. > > Also her posts are much less coherent, and she jumps around a lot. > > If I get time, I’ll go back and quote to show what I mean. > > Her reply to Tanaer is an example of the kind of agitating I mean. “You seems to have missed…” followed by … “no doubt quoted that one because it’s context-free”. Town choie seems like she would be thinking about the possibility that Tanaer could have missed a post, or chosen the post with the actual unvote because that’s the ‘right’ post, rather than instantly accusing her of scummy motivations. That’s not the best example, because choie might just be OMGUSing as a Townie, but it’s far from the only time choie puts the worst spin possible on someone. Well, firstly, **Tanaer** was smudging the heck outta me! Smudge met with smudge, seems only fair. 🙂 Second, I will cop to many things: gullibility; naivete; long-windedness (and how!); over-emotional… um, what’s the noun version of being over-emotional? well, _that_, whatever it is; being sarcastic and conversely over-self-deprecative; and a crappy player. But I cannot, and will not, let this “uncoherent” accusation stand, madam! Take it back or I _will_ demand satisfaction! Also I just can’t believe I can be pigeonholed as a player after only two games. Especially since those games were _sooo_ diffferent both from each other, and from this one. This one is teetering on the edge of my abilities to understand the mechanics, because there are so _many_ of them to remember and comprehend. I think it’s ironic that there are more obscure D&D references in this game than there were in **De’endee** , for example. Finally, I’m both frustrated by my inability to really _grok_ the mechanics of the game and yet more willing to participate than I was in the previous two games. The former is already explained; the latter is explained because hey, this _is_ my third game, and I’m feeling a bit more confident (at least in the Mafia mechanics part) than I was in the earlier games. Also, if I learned anything in the other games, it was that being quiet and mousy is just as suspicious as yammering on and being confident about what I’m saying. So why not give it a try for once? I felt like stepping up my style, being more aggressive, because… as I said, why not? Things get uglier but they’re certainly _interesting_ this way. That’s enough meta for now I guess. > [@Visorslash](#): > > I think Choie should be lynched when the phase ever changes. Well duh, that much is obvious! It’ll be a bit of what the Brits call an ‘own goal’, though–_especially_ for you. (What’s that Shakespeare quote again? Something about a serpent’s tooth…) ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1743 "2012-04-23T03:33:32Z")
Especially for me? So you find it hard that people can put you down as a style, etc but you can do it for me after one game, that isn’t even over yet? Dream on. At least I’m not being a troll and I am actually playing the game. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1744 "2012-04-23T03:47:54Z")
Well, you were kind of trolly earlier, you have to admit. But in any event, you don’t seem to understand what I meant. Perhaps you don’t know _King Lear_. Or maybe **Weedy** was right about my coherence after all. Or maybe all of the above. ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1745 "2012-04-23T04:04:48Z")
> [@](#): > > Also I just can’t believe I can be pigeonholed as a player after only two games. > [@](#): > > It’ll be a bit of what the Brits call an ‘own goal’, though–especially for you. I was relating these two comments. I have never read King Lear, I haven’t read a lot of Bill’s works. I mean, I’ve read Hamlet, Macbeth, Romeo and Juliet, etc but not Julius Caesar, nor Othello. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1746 "2012-04-23T04:24:57Z")
> [@Visorslash](#): > > I was relating these two comments. Yep, I figured that was it. But the second half of the second comment had nothing to do with the first comment. Nothing to do with game style. More about game occurances. And that’s all I’d better say. > [@Visorslash](#): > > I have never read King Lear, I haven’t read a lot of Bill’s works. I mean, I’ve read Hamlet, Macbeth, Romeo and Juliet, etc but not Julius Caesar, nor Othello. Actually having read those three plays puts you ahead of many other folks (unfortunately for them)! ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1747 "2012-04-23T04:28:55Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Yep, I figured that was it. But the second half of the second comment had nothing to do with the first comment. Nothing to do with game style. More about game occurances. And that’s all I’d better say. > > Actually having read those three plays puts you ahead of many other folks (unfortunately for them)! I wouldn’t say that is necessarily true. Just because I have read three of his plays, does not put me ahead in any kind of sense of someone who hasn’t, I mean, I suppose I have read the plays and said person hasn’t. But that person may have found a cure for a disease, or created an important artefact. Judging someone by whether they have read Shakespeare or not is not a very accurate mechanism for judging at all. (This is from the use of the word ahead, by the way). Anyway, I’ll have more to say on game related issues when we actually have a phase change. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1748 "2012-04-23T04:29:19Z")
Lear is worth it just for the Bastard monologue. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1749 "2012-04-23T04:44:13Z")
> [@Visorslash](#): > > I wouldn’t say that is necessarily true. Just because I have read three of his plays, does not put me ahead in any kind of sense of someone who hasn’t, I mean, I suppose I have read the plays and said person hasn’t. But that person may have found a cure for a disease, or created an important artefact. Judging someone by whether they have read Shakespeare or not is not a very accurate mechanism for judging at all. (This is from the use of the word ahead, by the way). Goodness you’re literal. But anyway, that’s why I said “many” not “all.” Having read Shakespeare enriches one’s own life; many people don’t realize that and think it’s just a lot of incomprehensible phrasing and flowery poetry. But there’s a great deal about human nature in his texts (including the snippet I referenced, BTW), and the more someone knows about human nature, the better off he or she is. However, I promise you if I find someone who’s cured diabetes or cancer and then learn she’s never read a line of Shakespeare, I won’t look down on her. 🙂 What a bizarre side conversation to emerge from my trying to give **Visorslash** some in-game advice. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1750 "2012-04-23T04:51:55Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Lear is worth it just for the Bastard monologue. What may this mean. That thou, dead corse, again, in complete steel, Revisit’st thus the glimpses of the moon. Making night hideous ; and we, fools of nature, So horridly to shake our disposition, With thoughts beyond the reaches of our souls? Say, why is this? ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1751 "2012-04-23T04:55:59Z")
I’ve basically forgotten the reasons for most of my leans at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1752 "2012-04-23T05:01:39Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Goodness you’re literal. But anyway, that’s why I said “many” not “all.” Having read Shakespeare enriches one’s own life; many people don’t realize that and think it’s just a lot of incomprehensible phrasing and flowery poetry. But there’s a great deal about human nature in his texts (including the snippet I referenced, BTW), and the more someone knows about human nature, the better off he or she is. > > However, I promise you if I find someone who’s cured diabetes or cancer and then learn she’s never read a line of Shakespeare, I won’t look down on her. 🙂 > > What a bizarre side conversation to emerge from my trying to give **Visorslash** some in-game advice. While we’re off topic (:p), I notice you said she and her when refering to to curing diseases, not male or gender neutral words but you did with human nature. BIAS I SAY! (Kidding). ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1753 "2012-04-23T07:49:40Z")
Okay back. Now, my goal is to do this entire effing smorgasbord of host-related duties in one sitting, since you’ve been all so patient and tomorrow isn’t another effing 13-hour marathon shift. Just know that I’m coming home exhausted from said 13 hour shift, and this will take several hours to do. If I pass out at the computer, I’m blaming you. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1754 "2012-04-23T08:05:28Z")
Status: 1. Orders have been recorded. Calculating results. Next: 1. PM notifications of results. 2. Night Two writeup (to get things moving again) 3. New role PMs for everybody, and no excuses this time askthepizzaguy. 4. Remain exhausted. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1755 "2012-04-23T09:36:15Z")
Status: **1) Orders have been recorded. Calculating results. (100%) 2) PM notifications of results. (50%) 4) New role PMs for everybody. (50%)** Next: 1. Night Two writeup (to get things moving again) \*\* (0%)\*\* ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1756 "2012-04-23T09:43:06Z")
Man. I feel like Majikthise and Vroomfondel waiting for Deep Thought to boot up. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1757 "2012-04-23T11:26:29Z")
Status: **1) Orders have been recorded. Calculating results. (100%) 2) PM notifications of results. (100%) 4) New role PMs for everybody. (100%)** Next: 1. Night Two writeup (to get things moving again) \*\* (0%)\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1758 "2012-04-23T12:08:21Z")
\*It is the **year 10,432…** It is the \*\*seventh night \*\*of the **sixth month**. The darkness seems to last forever, until finally dawn breaks… [SIZE=6]The Dawn… of the **DEAD**. [**White Zombie- More Human than Human**](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyarjKuBBV8) \*[/SIZE]Yeah, I am the astro creep A demolition style Hell american freak, yeah I am the crawling dead A phantom in a box Shadow in your head say Acid, suicide freedom of the blast Read the fucker lies, yeah Scratch off the broken skin Tear into my heart make Me do it again yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah More Human Than Human More Human Than Human More Human Than Human More Human Than Human More Human Than Human More Human Than Human Yeah, I am the jigsaw man I turn the world around With a skeleton hand say I am electric head A cannibal core A television said, yeah Do not victimize Read the motherfucker Psychoholic lies, yeah Into a psychic war I tear my soul apart and I Eat it some more, yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah, I am the ripper man A locomotion mind Love american style, yeah I am the nexus one I want more life fucker I ain’t done, yeah More Human Than Human \* \*\*Lord Phere \*\*seemed particularly evil tonight. He couldn’t stop laughing… if that’s what it could be called. It was the kind of evil cackle that could melt your eardrums shut. The \*\*Adventurers \*\*retreated back to the Fortification to brace themselves for the coming atrocities. Some even tried to sleep. Others went… hunting… - - \*\*Visorslash \*\*was pursued relentlessly, and once again, suffered a wound from an unknown attacker. _ **Visorslash takes 100hp damage.** _ [FONT=Palatino Linotype][SIZE=4]\*\* “Look, a wriggling white little maggot for me to exterminate. Die, foolish one… die…”\*\*[COLOR=Black] [/COLOR]_[/SIZE][/FONT]_ \*_GuiriEnEspana **couldn’t even fight back. What robes he wore offered no protection at all, and he was not exactly armed to the teeth. But an armored giant crushed him… with teeth. \* GuiriEnEspana is slain by Lord Phere.**_ "Hora de rezar. Morir… es… vivir!\*\*\*\*[FONT=Palatino Linotype][SIZE=4][SIZE=5] **"** [COLOR=Black] [FONT=Garamond][SIZE=4]The gargantuan \*\*Demon Lord \*\*began chanting ominously, and a burning symbol appeared on the rocky ground. The fallen body of \*\*Mosier \*\*is surrounded by **darkness** … and soon, his eyes open. To see… from beyond death itself…[/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]\*[/SIZE][/FONT] **Mosier has returned from the grave.** _[SIZE=4] [/SIZE][FONT=Palatino Linotype]**“Day becomes Night Night becomes Day Life becomes Death Death becomes Life From the candle of Life To the shadow of Death The soul is tormented By each new breath.”**_[/FONT]\*[SIZE=4][SIZE=5] Meanwhile, a\*\* glowing light **appears elsewhere, from within the Fortification. In a brilliant flash, the body of** Astral Rejection\*\* appears.[/SIZE]\* ``` **Astral Rejection has been returned.** [/SIZE] ``` **The Aftermath:** Upon inspection of his remains, they noticed that\*\* GuiriEnEspana \*\*seemed to be dressed like a **White Mage**. They were fairly certain that this man, whoever he was, was trying to do **Good**. The **Red Pendant** , once owned by GuiriEnEspana, would now be put to a vote. And they would once again face their greatest nemesis. **Astral Rejection and Mosier, however, have apparently returned from beyond the grave.** [SIZE=6]Begin “The Third BATTLE”[/SIZE]\* _(Day Three)_ \*\*\*[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Green]OOC: Day Three has begun.[/COLOR] You may vote and discuss your situation. You may Askthepizzaguy any game-related questions you might have, please bold and green if you wish the response to be OOC and from the game host. Otherwise, just speak ITS name and you shall have your answer… Day Three will end on Thursday, 17:00 (5:00PM) Eastern Time (GMT-05:00, US & Canada), April 26th 2012.\*\*[/COLOR] Our schedule returns to normal. **Still able to fight:** 1. Mahaloth 2. Believerer 3. Suburban Plankton \*\* 4. Mosier\*\* 4. Scathach 5. Fubbleskag 6. Weedy 7. Gadarene 8. PetW \*\* 10. Astral Rejection\*\* 9. gnarlycharlie 10. NAF1138 11. septimus - - 1. Lightfoot 2. Silver Jan 3. choie 4. BobArrgh 5. Tanaer 6. Red Skeezix 7. Normal Phase 8. MHaye 9. RealityTrip 10. Lilflower - 1. Visorslash 2. storyteller0910 3. ToeJam 4. Askthepizzaguy **Not in any condition to fight:** [Dead] 1. Inner Stickler- **Soldier [Good]** 2. glee- **Soldier [Good]** 3. GuiriEnEspana-[COLOR=Blue]\*\* White Mage [Good]\*\*[/COLOR] ROUND OVER SUMMARY: \*\* [COLOR=Black][COLOR=Blue]Visorslash takes 100hp damage. [COLOR=Red] GuiriEnEspana is slain in battle by Lord Phere. [/COLOR][/COLOR]\*\*[/COLOR] \*\*Mosier has returned from the grave.\*\*\*\*[COLOR=Black] \*\*[/COLOR] \*\*Astral Rejection \*\ ***has been returned.** ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1759 "2012-04-23T12:10:05Z")
Go Town! ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1760 "2012-04-23T12:14:00Z")
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