# \[Mafia game\] The Realm of Phere **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480 "2012-04-01T15:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 97
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1921 "2012-04-24T21:43:17Z")
> [@choie](#): > > FWIW I actually took it simply that s/he wasn’t available to join in due to RL issues. I didn’t even consider an in-game reason. Which may say more about me than **Believerer**. > > **Silver Jan** , I hope I didn’t correct your grammar or insult it somewhere. Even pro authors need editors (thank heavens, as that’s a sideline too). Ok I am laughing out loud, you corrected my grammar when I posted a fake PM in a game! I can’t answer this properly because I am laughing too much. You caught me because of the incorrect comma lol. I said I was a Town Roleblocker! Oh my, I was mortified when you turned out to be the real roleblocker. Oh well, we live to play again 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1922 "2012-04-24T21:55:25Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > Ok I am laughing out loud, you corrected my grammar when I posted a fake PM in a game! I can’t answer this properly because I am laughing too much. You caught me because of the incorrect comma lol. I said I was a Town Roleblocker! Oh my, I was mortified when you turned out to be the real roleblocker. Oh well, we live to play again 🙂 Ha! That is hilarious, and now I do remember that. It _was_ a bit of luck that you accused me of attacking somebody after having allegedly blocked me, but I turned out to be the roleblocker myself. See, this game _can_ be fun instead of high blood pressure-inducing! ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1923 "2012-04-24T22:15:06Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Ha! That is hilarious, and now I do remember that. It _was_ a bit of luck that you accused me of attacking somebody after having allegedly blocked me, but I turned out to be the roleblocker myself. See, this game _can_ be fun instead of high blood pressure-inducing! Hehehe, it was fun, you managed to kill me though. I didn’t like being called a scummy scum scum scum though, scum want to win to and they aren’t all horrid people 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1924 "2012-04-24T22:17:07Z")
NETA Do you remember your court case lol, I had no defence 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1925 "2012-04-24T23:15:59Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > You didn’t ask me but I have a comment > > I see some merit in the case on \*\* Bob \*\* but will do my own research . > in order to change/ upgrade some players have to become neutral ( or good). if \*\* Bob \*\* started out chaotic (or neutral) the ’ good deed’ protecting \*\* Glee \*\* might have been a step in that direction. > It says nothing to me about alignment To me, it wasn’t so much the protection itself, but the explanation he gave for it later. > [@BobArrgh](#): > > I didn’t want to say why I protected **Glee** because doing so will expose my Elemental alignment. I’m not at all sure what the Elemental alignment means, but I was trying to avoid giving away that piece of information until I knew more about it. However, since it seems to be such a huge freaking deal to everyone, I’ll just say it. > > I am a Townie with an Elemental alignment of Water. I have a blue item. Since **Glee** had a blue item, I inferred that he and I were of the same alignment. I protected him on D1 because I thought that he and I had an affinity through our Elemental alignment. I also wanted to see what using my Guard ability did. > > I still don’t know what the Elemental alignment means. I was (probably naively) assuming that birds of a feather have the same Elemental alignment. That is, if I am Water and Town and I find another Water person, then that person is also Town. I am basically interpreting the Elemental alignment as a sort-of Masonry. > > Exposing my Elemental alignment now opens me up to an Elemental-type attack. > > To show that I’m not pulling this out of a nether orifice, in post #179 I mentioned “Water” twice. Also, in post #647, I also alluded to my Elemental alignment when I said, “ **What’re** you getting at?” > > I’m sure I have made a lot of newbie-type assumptions regarding the Elemental alignment, but this is my first DnD style game I have ever played, so I’m not sure how it all works. This is a very good, detailed lie, if it is one. It rings true to me. ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1926 "2012-04-24T23:17:01Z")
I’ve done a few crazy things in mafia in my short time. Roleclaiming as a killer, claiming serial killer… @ Choie That’s alright. ---
**Author:** ![BobArrgh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobarrgh/32/2881_2.png) [@BobArrgh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobArrgh)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1927 "2012-04-24T23:18:05Z")
> [@Scathach](#): > > No it wasn’t, it was D2. You’re right, it was D2. Sorry. I should have said, “The first day we could vote on them.” I tried to rely on my memory. ---
**Author:** ![BobArrgh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobarrgh/32/2881_2.png) [@BobArrgh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobArrgh)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1928 "2012-04-24T23:22:18Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > fuck me, I turn my back for 10 seconds and look at all this shit. > > welcome back **Astral** and **Mosier**. I love that **Mosier** ’s resurrection seems to have come at a cost that is at the very least comical. > > I’m not sold on the **BobArrgh** case or seemingly rapid bandwagon, but if he edits another post I’ll be happy to get on board for that reason alone. Pfft. All I did was add the last sentence. ---
**Author:** ![BobArrgh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobarrgh/32/2881_2.png) [@BobArrgh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobArrgh)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1929 "2012-04-24T23:28:02Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > IIRC he gave a list of five or six possible reasons he might’ve been protecting glee, without ever specifying after glee’s death which reason it was. That’s crap. Go check post #874. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2012, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1930 "2012-04-24T23:31:43Z")
Yeah, I forgot. ---
**Author:** ![BobArrgh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobarrgh/32/2881_2.png) [@BobArrgh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobArrgh)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1931 "2012-04-25T01:23:41Z")
Sorry to have been harsh. I am probably overreacting to the rather difficult day of chasing computer bugs, and then while reading, got rather annoyed at the wagon building on me for absolutely lousy reasons. Sorry about that. ---
**Author:** ![BobArrgh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobarrgh/32/2881_2.png) [@BobArrgh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobArrgh)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1932 "2012-04-25T01:29:14Z")
[oog] I forgot to post the URL of the website that we launched last week. It is a fundraising site for the US Olympic Team, where you can buy a stitch for the flag the athletes are going to carry into the stadium in London, and then you can dedicate your stitch. It was launched last Tuesday on the Today Show, as part of the world-wide 100-Days-To-Go celebration. It was definitely one of the biggest things with which I have ever been involved professionally. Check it out at [https://raiseourflag.teamusa.org](https://raiseourflag.teamusa.org). [/oog] ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1933 "2012-04-25T01:44:35Z")
> [@Weedy](#): > > To me, it wasn’t so much the protection itself, but the explanation he gave for it later. > > This is a very good, detailed lie, if it is one. It rings true to me. Depending on the time between point A and post B ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1934 "2012-04-25T05:22:05Z")
Vote Pendant to Zombie Mosier Vote Naf for the leveling up w/o contributiing for the last few Days. It’s the best I’ve got at this quick read through, i’ll need to spend more time reading up again over the last Day, but I’m in no shape to really contribute my usual self. I’ve been trying to catch up, and I apologize for not focusing on this game. There were other more pressing matters for me- namely other obligations and the fact that I’ve got 2 rough weeks ahead of me. I’ll be lighter in my boots than usual for finals/wrapping up school and then on Vacation and w/ spotty internet connections for the next week as well. So hopefully around May 7-8th, If i’m still around, you’ll see me back in my usual form. That said, great to see you **storyteller**. :🤗: And to the powers that be, I love _ **ZombieMosier** _, just because i love post restrictions and general silliness. Should i die, I would LOVE To be resurrected as a Zombie. That said, I don’t trust Zombies, and feel like we’ve got a Necromancer now finally in our ranks. Hopefully a “Townie” necro, but to me, it does feel like the obvious “3rd Party Mad Bomber” win condition- create an army of Zombies and take out the Town. So I’m not against Visorslash’s ideas to kill zombies, though I’m more inclined to wait and see if we start to get a zombie problem and to see what happens at night. If we get 4-5 zombies, we may need to thin the herd. but 1-2 or I’m content with right now to just poke with sticks. That said, I’m still pro-killing Hughley. Missed me, buddy? Sorry I can’t entertain you as much as I used to, but I’m sure you’ll manage. How’s the nuticle fund coming along? Also, **Astral** , good to have you back- even though Morality=/= alignment. The fact that you’re not a zombie/raised by the lorde phred is a +1 to ya, but of course means nothing. I am actually curious if the zombies can vote even. Care to try, **Mose**? If they can’t, then I’m more inclined to think MadBomber type of role… And also feel like in D&D Canon, white magic hurts the undead, while dark magic probably heals them. Just some food for thoughts for the more magically minded out there. Hopefully we can get some more info coming down the pipeline though. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1935 "2012-04-25T06:37:28Z")
So you think zombie Mosier is a bad guy, or the tool of one, but you want him to have the pendant? And you think maybe we should get around to trying to start killing zombies when it gets to 4 or 5, but 1 or 2’s not so bad? (And don’t get me started on +1/means nothing in the same sentence, the other stuff is worse …) It’s 2:30 in the morning for me and I haven’t slept in about a week, ToeJam, but wtf? That is not a good post. ---
**Author:** ![Believerer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/53a042/32.png) [@Believerer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Believerer)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1936 "2012-04-25T06:43:40Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > You’ve touched on the fact before that this was the first Day that you could post. But Pizza informed us that you’d subbed in at the beginning of Day 2…so it would seem that you should have been able to post from that point. > > What took you an entire game Day? You said something earlier about being unfamiliar with the system; does that mean that it was \*possible \*for you to vote, but you were unable due to some technical issues? > > Or was there some game-related reason that forced you to remain silent? > > Or are you prohibited from telling us? > [@choie](#): > > FWIW I actually took it simply that s/he wasn’t available to join in due to RL issues. I didn’t even consider an in-game reason. Which may say more about me than **Believerer**. > > **Silver Jan** , I hope I didn’t correct your grammar or insult it somewhere. Even pro authors need editors (thank heavens, as that’s a sideline too). What choie says. ---
**Author:** ![Visorslash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee59a6/32.png) [@Visorslash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Visorslash)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1937 "2012-04-25T07:08:49Z")
> [@ToeJam](#): > > Vote Pendant to Zombie Mosier > > Vote Naf > for the leveling up w/o contributiing for the last few Days. It’s the best I’ve got at this quick read through, i’ll need to spend more time reading up again over the last Day, but I’m in no shape to really contribute my usual self. > > I’ve been trying to catch up, and I apologize for not focusing on this game. There were other more pressing matters for me- namely other obligations and the fact that I’ve got 2 rough weeks ahead of me. I’ll be lighter in my boots than usual for finals/wrapping up school and then on Vacation and w/ spotty internet connections for the next week as well. So hopefully around May 7-8th, If i’m still around, you’ll see me back in my usual form. > > That said, great to see you **storyteller**. :🤗: > And to the powers that be, I love _ **ZombieMosier** _, just because i love post restrictions and general silliness. Should i die, I would LOVE To be resurrected as a Zombie. > That said, I don’t trust Zombies, and feel like we’ve got a Necromancer now finally in our ranks. Hopefully a “Townie” necro, but to me, it does feel like the obvious “3rd Party Mad Bomber” win condition- create an army of Zombies and take out the Town. So I’m not against Visorslash’s ideas to kill zombies, though I’m more inclined to wait and see if we start to get a zombie problem and to see what happens at night. If we get 4-5 zombies, we may need to thin the herd. but 1-2 or I’m content with right now to just poke with sticks. > > That said, I’m still pro-killing Hughley. Missed me, buddy? Sorry I can’t entertain you as much as I used to, but I’m sure you’ll manage. How’s the nuticle fund coming along? > > Also, **Astral** , good to have you back- even though Morality=/= alignment. The fact that you’re not a zombie/raised by the lorde phred is a +1 to ya, but of course means nothing. > > I am actually curious if the zombies can vote even. Care to try, **Mose**? If they can’t, then I’m more inclined to think MadBomber type of role… And also feel like in D&D Canon, white magic hurts the undead, while dark magic probably heals them. > Just some food for thoughts for the more magically minded out there. > > Hopefully we can get some more info coming down the pipeline though. The whole it’s a wasted lynch. we can lynch him later argument? Not good. **Unvote;[COLOR=“Blue”]Vote: ToeJam[/COLOR]** ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1938 "2012-04-25T11:37:05Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > Are you trying to cloud the 'needs to amass wealth" theorie? > [@LightFoot](#): > > I have an item I do not know what it does- others do too. there is a player that claims he can tell us what they do for a small fee. that about sums it up ~~snipped~~ > [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > **Fubbles** can tell us what the items do for a fee, that’s why it’s thought that he could be 3rd party. for those not paying attention you’ll note that I shut down the inspect-for-cash business pages ago. if you want an item inspected, I’m willing to do so - but you’ll have to barter some type of service in exchange. > [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > You’ve touched on the fact before that this was the first Day that you could post. But Pizza informed us that you’d subbed in at the beginning of Day 2…so it would seem that you should have been able to post from that point. > > What took you an entire game Day? You said something earlier about being unfamiliar with the system; does that mean that it was \*possible \*for you to vote, but you were unable due to some technical issues? > > Or was there some game-related reason that forced you to remain silent? > > Or are you prohibited from telling us? he already said explicitly that this was not a game mechanic. > [@BobArrgh](#): > > Pfft. All I did was add the last sentence. editing is editing. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1939 "2012-04-25T12:07:31Z")
> [@Visorslash](#): > > The whole it’s a wasted lynch. we can lynch him later argument? Not good. **Vote: ToeJam** [color bleached for moderator convenience] Why is it not good? On the face of it, it seems fairly innocuous; it seems unlikely that, whatever the zombies are, they will end the game in the next Day. It’s at least vaguely possible that the zombies might be of positive value. Why do you view a “wait and see” attitude as worthy of a vote? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480/1940 "2012-04-25T12:16:44Z")
Well not speaking for Visorslash, but the dude was raised by Lord Phere. What benefit do you see to letting him live? (Visor wants to vig him, btw, not lynch.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=96) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-game-the-realm-of-phere/617480.md?page=98)