# Mafia: Goontown \[Game Over\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [September 22, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754 "2018-09-22T22:54:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Hi\_Neighbor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hi_neighbor/32/494_2.png) [@Hi\_Neighbor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hi_Neighbor)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/341 "2018-10-04T18:36:20Z")
And here comes the pile-on. ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/342 "2018-10-04T18:38:54Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > **unvote Johnny Bravo** > > **vote Hi, Neighbor!** > > 'Cause SNF and Stranger are bringing more to the game than Hi. I strongly hope you get back over to the Giraffe, where there’s always a Mafia game brewing. > [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > What? Not technically a newbie? > > **unvote** > **vote Hi, Neighbor!** per my feelings in post #301. > > Lest I be accused of trying to save Stranger or snfaulkner, I’ll say that Stranger pinged me pretty hard in post #321. > > I’ll admit to not really following the cassus belli on snfaulkner. Interesting. I always try to think of the downside of lynching someone: if they’re town, what have we learned? Talk to me about that w/r/t our Neighbor. Edit: you have about 30 minutes to convince me before I (probably) won’t be able to vote again. ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/343 "2018-10-04T18:47:48Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > I think you guys voting for **Prof. Pepperwinkle** , **Biotop** , and **Johnny Bravo** need to put your heads together and decide what you really want to do, because those votes aren’t accomplishing anything as they are. Either recruit someone to your view or pick one of the high vote players ( **snfaulkner** , **Stranger On A Train** , or **Hi, Neighbor!** ) based on who you think is most scummy, otherwise you’re just whistling Dixie. > > Stranger > [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Lest I be accused of trying to save Stranger or snfaulkner, I’ll say that Stranger pinged me pretty hard in post #321. So I quote post 321 above. Stranger’s new, right? I don’t think that expecting people to shit or get off the pot is unreasonable as we approach end of day 1, and especially so if they haven’t seen how crazily things can change in the last few hours. Or, Johnny, was it another part of the post that pinged you? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/344 "2018-10-04T18:49:36Z")
Okay. I’ve re-read and I like **Stranger** ’s play less each time. > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > I’m fine with being killed to benefit the town if it exposes **snfaulkner** (likely scum) or **Mahaloth** (maybe, tending toward scummy), but at this rate it isn’t going to provide any useful information, nor can I pick anyone I suspect with the expectation that they’ll actually get voted out; if I vote **Prof. Pepperwinkle** , who I have about a 30% confidence in being scum, he just countervotes and puts me over the top with three. Calling anybody “likely scum” on Day 1, let alone assigning percentages, is a little over the top. Also encouraging players to get trains going. Stranger’s play strikes me very much as a “helpful townie” bit taken too far. **unvote** **vote Stranger on a Train** ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/345 "2018-10-04T18:50:53Z")
> [@Hi\_Neighbor](#): > > Which leads to to think the true scum is someone who voted more recently to pile on and “go with the flow” as it were. > > So that leads me to cast this… > > **Vote Sunny Daze** A bold play and an interesting thesis. We’ll see if others are persuaded. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/346 "2018-10-04T18:51:23Z")
> [@snoe](#): > > So I quote post 321 above. Stranger’s new, right? I don’t think that expecting people to shit or get off the pot is unreasonable as we approach end of day 1, and especially so if they haven’t seen how crazily things can change in the last few hours. > Or, Johnny, was it another part of the post that pinged you? No, it was that. A townie’s most important job is to be on the record. Having a vote down, along with reasoning, is not whistlin’ Dixie. I don’t think a townie has any obligation to make sure he’s on a train at the end of the day. ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/347 "2018-10-04T19:02:02Z")
Can somebody do a quick vote count (mod or otherwise)? Por favor? ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/348 "2018-10-04T19:10:03Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > What? Not technically a newbie? > > **unvote** > **vote Hi, Neighbor!** per my feelings in post #301. Is that an unvote on **Prof. Pepperwinkle**? Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/349 "2018-10-04T19:11:49Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > **unvote** > **vote Stranger on a Train** And then unvoting **Hi, Neighbor!** to vote me? I’m just trying to keep track. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/350 "2018-10-04T19:11:51Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > What? Not technically a newbie? > > **unvote** > **vote Hi, Neighbor!** per my feelings in post #301. > > Lest I be accused of trying to save Stranger or snfaulkner, I’ll say that Stranger pinged me pretty hard in post #321. > > I’ll admit to not really following the cassus belli on snfaulkner. > [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Hah! My vote got ninja’d! > [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Okay. I’ve re-read and I like **Stranger** ’s play less each time. > > Calling anybody “likely scum” on Day 1, let alone assigning percentages, is a little over the top. Also encouraging players to get trains going. Stranger’s play strikes me very much as a “helpful townie” bit taken too far. > > **unvote** > **vote Stranger on a Train** > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Is that an unvote on **Prof. Pepperwinkle**? > > Stranger It has to be … although it’s helpful if people label their unvotes. As I count it, we’re at 3 votes each for faulkner and stranger. And 2 for neighbor. Is that right? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/351 "2018-10-04T19:13:31Z")
I’ve been lazy with my unvotes. Sorry guys. ---
**Author:** ![Hi\_Neighbor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hi_neighbor/32/494_2.png) [@Hi\_Neighbor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hi_Neighbor)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/352 "2018-10-04T19:15:49Z")
> [@snoe](#): > > It has to be … although it’s helpful if people label their unvotes. > As I count it, we’re at 3 votes each for faulkner and stranger. And 2 for neighbor. > Is that right? I am sitting on three votes currently (Biotop, Knowed Out, Prof. Pepperwinkle). ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/353 "2018-10-04T19:19:22Z")
> [@snoe](#): > > Can somebody do a quick vote count (mod or otherwise)? Por favor? Provided I understood **Johnny Bravo** ’s unvotes correctly, here is what I have: ```auto Player Votes Who voted 1. snfaulkner 3 snoe, Stranger On A Train, Sunny Daze 10. Stranger On A Train 3 Mahaloth, snfaulkner, Johnny Bravo 7. Hi, Neighbor 3 Biotop, Knowed Out, Prof. Pepperwinkle 5. Sunny Daze 1 Hi, Neighbor! 4. Prof. Pepperwinkle 0 6. snoe 0 3. Biotop 0 9. Johnny Bravo 0 2. Mahaloth 0 8. Knowed Out 0 ``` This isn’t the official count but I think **Chronos** said he may not be back before end of day. If I have something wrong with anyone’s vote, please let me know. I’ve lost track of number of posts but the order should still be correct. Stranger Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Hi\_Neighbor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hi_neighbor/32/494_2.png) [@Hi\_Neighbor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hi_Neighbor)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/354 "2018-10-04T19:19:24Z")
\*\*Biotop \*\*voted for me for not voting ([#304](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21247567&postcount=304)). I did cast votes since then, but I wonder if he will return in time to reconsider. Less than an hour to go. ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/355 "2018-10-04T19:21:31Z")
> [@Hi\_Neighbor](#): > > I am sitting on three votes currently (Biotop, Knowed Out, Prof. Pepperwinkle). Okay. Sorry, Neighbor, but I’m going to unvote snfaulkner [COLOR=Blue]vote Hi,Neighbor[/COLOR] [COLOR=Blue][/COLOR] ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/356 "2018-10-04T19:22:10Z")
Stranger’s vote count looks right to me. Given the number of posts being the decider, Hi, Neighbor! will be lynched. But I’m still suspicious of Johnny as well. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/357 "2018-10-04T19:23:16Z")
…or is it snoe and SNF, and snoe’s voting to save his scum partner? 'Tis beyond me this Day. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/358 "2018-10-04T19:25:49Z")
I look at it like I’m part of the mob mentality during the Salem Witch Trials. Innocents burn just as spectacularly as the guiltys. ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/359 "2018-10-04T19:26:13Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > …or is it snoe and SNF, and snoe’s voting to save his scum partner? 'Tis beyond me this Day. Professor, don’t make me fix my stink eye on you again. Stop while you’re ahead. But seriously, that’s my vote – I won’t be back again before EOD. Got to go do stuff. Fist bump to all of you – it was an interesting first day! ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-goontown-game-over/821754/360 "2018-10-04T19:27:00Z")
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