# Mafia: Mutiny on the SS Incorrigible

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 14, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676 "2011-03-14T17:51:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 28

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/541 "2011-03-30T18:02:51Z")

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Day Two Vote Count

All Votes by Voting Player  
**Hal Briston** =\> no votes.  
**fluiddruid** =\> peekercpa (525), Mahaloth (526), Crackrat (526), [del]TexCat (526-527)[/del], Hal Briston (527).  
**TexCat** =\> Hal Briston (428), fluiddruid (523), Mahaloth (523), TexCat (523).  
**peekercpa** =\> [del]fubbleskag (458-483)[/del], Hal Briston (458), Mahaloth (458), fluiddruid (458), NAF1138 (483).  
**Idle Thoughts** =\> glowacks (459), Mahaloth (538), Hal Briston (538), fubbleskag (538).  
**Mahaloth** =\> Stanislaus (507), Hal Briston (510), glowacks (510).  
**Inner Stickler** =\> fluiddruid (515), Hal Briston (515), Mahaloth (515), Red Skeezix (515).  
**Red Skeezix** =\> fluiddruid (476), NAF1138 (476), Hal Briston (476), glowacks (476).  
**glowacks** =\> Mahaloth (477), [del]fubbleskag (477-482)[/del], TexCat (477), Crackrat (477), Stanislaus (482).  
**Normal Phase** =\> [del]fubbleskag (426-494)[/del], fluiddruid (426), Mahaloth (426), [del]Hal Briston (426-466)[/del], NAF1138 (466), Normal Phase (494).  
**fubbleskag** =\> no votes.  
**Crackrat** =\> [del]fubbleskag (473-481)[/del], Hal Briston (473), Mahaloth (473), Normal Phase (473), fluiddruid (518).  
**Stanislaus** =\> [del]fubbleskag (456-484)[/del], Mahaloth (503), TexCat (503), fluiddruid (503), Crackrat (503).  
**NAF1138** =\> peekercpa (464), Normal Phase (464).

Net Votes  
**Mahaloth** (9) \<= fluiddruid, TexCat, peekercpa, Idle Thoughts, Inner Stickler, glowacks, Normal Phase, Crackrat, Stanislaus.  
**Hal Briston** (7) \<= fluiddruid, TexCat, peekercpa, Idle Thoughts, Inner Stickler, Red Skeezix, Crackrat.  
**fluiddruid** (7) \<= TexCat, peekercpa, Inner Stickler, Red Skeezix, Normal Phase, Crackrat, Stanislaus.  
**Crackrat** (3) \<= fluiddruid, glowacks, Stanislaus.  
**TexCat** (3) \<= TexCat, glowacks, Stanislaus.  
**NAF1138** (3) \<= peekercpa, Red Skeezix, Normal Phase.  
**glowacks** (2) \<= Idle Thoughts, Red Skeezix.  
**Normal Phase** (2) \<= Normal Phase, Crackrat.  
**peekercpa** (1) \<= fluiddruid.  
**fubbleskag** (1) \<= Idle Thoughts.  
**Red Skeezix** (1) \<= Inner Stickler.  
**Stanislaus** (1) \<= glowacks.

With 14 players eligible to vote, 7 votes are needed to space. With these votes, **Mahaloth** will be spaced.

Standing orders: **Normal Phase** will be examined.

About one hour until the end of the Day.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/542 "2011-03-30T18:04:12Z")

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**Claiming**

Here is my role.

[QUOTE=Pleonast]  
**Mahaloth** - Loyal Crew

You are a Loyal crew member. You win when all Mutinous crew members are dead.  
[/QUOTE]

I’m vanilla so my death is not that big of a deal. I figure I should give you all a chance to unvote me, though.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/543 "2011-03-30T18:08:00Z")

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The extent of snuggling there is giving me the heebie-jeebies, I have to say. I do think that it’s about time that peeker is given a real look-see, but I don’t think anything approaching a worthwhile argument has been made against him thus far, including this one.

Vote count?

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/544 "2011-03-30T18:10:29Z")

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Oh, I’m getting examined. Yippee.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/545 "2011-03-30T18:30:35Z")

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Day Two Vote Count

All Votes by Voting Player  
**Hal Briston** =\> no votes.  
**fluiddruid** =\> peekercpa (525), Mahaloth (526), Crackrat (526), [del]TexCat (526-527)[/del], Hal Briston (527).  
**TexCat** =\> Hal Briston (428), fluiddruid (523), Mahaloth (523), TexCat (523).  
**peekercpa** =\> [del]fubbleskag (458-483)[/del], Hal Briston (458), Mahaloth (458), fluiddruid (458), NAF1138 (483).  
**Idle Thoughts** =\> glowacks (459), Mahaloth (538), Hal Briston (538), fubbleskag (538).  
**Mahaloth** =\> Stanislaus (507), Hal Briston (510), glowacks (510), peekercpa (540).  
**Inner Stickler** =\> fluiddruid (515), Hal Briston (515), Mahaloth (515), Red Skeezix (515).  
**Red Skeezix** =\> fluiddruid (476), NAF1138 (476), Hal Briston (476), glowacks (476).  
**glowacks** =\> Mahaloth (477), [del]fubbleskag (477-482)[/del], TexCat (477), Crackrat (477), Stanislaus (482).  
**Normal Phase** =\> [del]fubbleskag (426-494)[/del], fluiddruid (426), Mahaloth (426), [del]Hal Briston (426-466)[/del], NAF1138 (466), Normal Phase (494).  
**fubbleskag** =\> no votes.  
**Crackrat** =\> [del]fubbleskag (473-481)[/del], Hal Briston (473), Mahaloth (473), Normal Phase (473), fluiddruid (518).  
**Stanislaus** =\> [del]fubbleskag (456-484)[/del], Mahaloth (503), TexCat (503), fluiddruid (503), Crackrat (503).  
**NAF1138** =\> peekercpa (464), Normal Phase (464).

Net Votes  
**Mahaloth** (9) \<= fluiddruid, TexCat, peekercpa, Idle Thoughts, Inner Stickler, glowacks, Normal Phase, Crackrat, Stanislaus.  
**Hal Briston** (8) \<= fluiddruid, TexCat, peekercpa, Idle Thoughts, Mahaloth, Inner Stickler, Red Skeezix, Crackrat.  
**fluiddruid** (7) \<= TexCat, peekercpa, Inner Stickler, Red Skeezix, Normal Phase, Crackrat, Stanislaus.  
**Crackrat** (3) \<= fluiddruid, glowacks, Stanislaus.  
**TexCat** (3) \<= TexCat, glowacks, Stanislaus.  
**NAF1138** (3) \<= peekercpa, Red Skeezix, Normal Phase.  
**glowacks** (3) \<= Idle Thoughts, Mahaloth, Red Skeezix.  
**peekercpa** (2) \<= fluiddruid, Mahaloth.  
**Stanislaus** (2) \<= Mahaloth, glowacks.  
**Normal Phase** (2) \<= Normal Phase, Crackrat.  
**fubbleskag** (1) \<= Idle Thoughts.  
**Red Skeezix** (1) \<= Inner Stickler.

With 14 players eligible to vote, 7 votes are needed to space. With these votes, **Mahaloth** will be spaced.

Standing orders: **Normal Phase** will be examined.

About 30 minutes until the end of the Day.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/546 "2011-03-30T18:35:38Z")

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Me changing my self-vote to Hal would not change the outcome, correct? Because Mahaloth is higher ranked than Inner Stickler (and both higher ranked than me). I’d be really tempted if it would, as pissed off as I am about Hal and given how much of my case against Mahaloth is contingent on something I won’t be finding out about today (fluiddruid’s alignment). But, argh. _bites fingernails_

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/547 "2011-03-30T19:00:35Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
>
> I guess I’ll go with fubbleskag, who isn’t voting for anyone yet today.
> 
> [COLOR=“blue”] **Vote fubbleskag.** [COLOR]
> 
> Weak as hell vote, I fully admit, but I want the other votes to count.

\<snipped and bleached\>

he did claim mason and was confirmed by **inner** so that is kind of a point in his favor even without a vote.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/548 "2011-03-30T19:00:51Z")

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Idle! Did you seriously vote for fubbles? LOL.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/549 "2011-03-30T19:01:54Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
>
> Me changing my self-vote to Hal would not change the outcome, correct?

\<snipped\>

actually i don’t think this is true. **fluid** is the current tie breaker.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/550 "2011-03-30T19:03:24Z")

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Time for Floyd to go to work. Why does Floyd have to clean out the airlock every Night-cycle?

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/551 "2011-03-30T19:03:51Z")

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Very nearly a point in favor of Idle at that, peeks. You’d think the scum would be up on who the claimed masons were. 🙂 Really a null tell, I think. I just can’t stop giggling.

And fluid is voting for both Hal and Mahaloth, same with everyone else down to Mahaloth himself.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/552 "2011-03-30T19:04:13Z")

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yep, i am right. if it’s tied the highest ranked person is the tie break. so in that case **fluid** would toss it to **hal**.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/553 "2011-03-30T19:04:51Z")

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Except that she’s also voting for Mahaloth.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/554 "2011-03-30T19:05:23Z")

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**Mahaloth** is spaced and was Loyal Crew.

It is now Night Two. It will end Thu Mar 31 at 12 noon PT (3pm ET).

Night Two Crew

1. **Hal Briston** - Captain
2. **fluiddruid** - Executive Officer
3. **TexCat** - Chief of Security
4. **peekercpa** - Head of Engineering
5. **Idle Thoughts** - Ship’s Doctor
6. **Inner Stickler**
7. **Red Skeezix**
8. **glowacks**
9. **Normal Phase**
10. **fubbleskag**
11. **Crackrat**
12. **Stanislaus**
13. **NAF1138**

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**Author:** ![Crackrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Crackrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crackrat)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/555 "2011-03-30T19:05:34Z")

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The way I read it, if you change your vote to Hal, then Mahaloth will be the determining vote, since he outranks Inner Stickler, and Hal will be spaced instead.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/556 "2011-03-30T19:06:45Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
>
> Very nearly a point in favor of Idle at that, peeks. You’d think the scum would be up on who the claimed masons were. 🙂 Really a null tell, I think. I just can’t stop giggling.
> 
> And fluid is voting for both Hal and Mahaloth, same with everyone else down to Mahaloth himself.

how many times have i lost a hand in poker because of a crappy kicker?

the correct answer would be A LOT.

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**Author:** ![Crackrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Crackrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crackrat)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/557 "2011-03-30T19:06:58Z")

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Apparently I should check timestamps better before I post. Glad I wasn’t changing votes or anything that needed to be done that Day.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/558 "2011-03-30T19:10:50Z")

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OMG I did get that wrong. How did I get that wrong?

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/559 "2011-03-30T19:12:40Z")

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Sorry, Mahaloth. Somehow this feels worse than if I’d actively chosen not to lynch Hal over you. I hate feeling stupid.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/560 "2011-03-30T19:20:43Z")

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I was just told that **Normal Phase** is Loyal.

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