# Mafia: Mutiny on the SS Incorrigible

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 14, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676 "2011-03-14T17:51:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/41 "2011-03-17T01:21:41Z")

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What’s the “point” of a hypothetically mutinous Commissar? One extra townie kill at the cost of a self-induced brigging and a whole lot of \>\< looks?

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/42 "2011-03-17T01:23:08Z")

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Can scummers kill and use other role powers (if they have any) on the same night? Can scummers kill and use teh engineer’s power on the same night?

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/43 "2011-03-17T01:58:17Z")

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…and if I’m named Captain, my first act will be to kill the whole lot of you and burn your ship to cinders!

Oh, wait…disregard that.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/44 "2011-03-17T04:27:34Z")

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> [@glowacks](#):
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> Some questions: what night actions count as interacting with the target of the Engineer? If the target is affected by a hacker or cracker, will either of the latter show up? What about if the target is a hacker or cracker themselves - will the engineer see anyone they target? Apart from those, it appears as though the only night actions are the scum kill and the potential Commissar kill.
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> When exactly does the Doctor get their information - after the day’s lynch? Can they announce the results of the study before the scum have the chance to kill them? I’m guessing that the answers are yes and no, and that the only reason that the investigation is not a night action is so that it doesn’t show up on the Engineer’s scans.

Any Night action, going either way, counts as interacting with the target of the Engineer. Because of the powers in this game, it’s more or less a weak scum detector.

Whoever was Doctor immediately before the lynch gets the information via PM immediately after the lynch.

There is no penalty enforced by the moderator for discussing strategy at Night. So, yes, the Doctor can reveal whatever info they like at any time.

> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> Can scummers kill and use other role powers (if they have any) on the same night? Can scummers kill and use teh engineer’s power on the same night?

Yes, there is no restriction against using multiple powers at the same time.

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I will be sending out role PMs forthwith. From this point on, I will only respond to questions sent to me via PM. I may answer via PM or here in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/45 "2011-03-17T04:37:49Z")

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Do we need to confirm receipt of role pm? If so, I got it! If not, uh, nothing to see here folks.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/46 "2011-03-17T04:39:10Z")

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All role PMs are sent out, except for two players who do not have PMs enabled. Please do so.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/47 "2011-03-17T04:46:24Z")

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Confirming.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/48 "2011-03-17T04:47:50Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Do we need to confirm receipt of role pm? If so, I got it! If not, uh, nothing to see here folks.

Pfft, I don’t care whether or not you’ve received it. I only care if I sent it. 😃

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/49 "2011-03-17T04:51:29Z")

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Good to know. Also, two people? There’s always someone in every group. For shame, sirrahs! Now I’m gonna feel like an idiot if it’s the newbies who didn’t know they should have PMs turned on.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/50 "2011-03-17T11:42:57Z")

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Confirming

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/51 "2011-03-17T13:08:41Z")

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Confirming.

So then…how do I play this Captain role – James T. Kirk or Zapp Brannigan? Decisions, decisions…

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/52 "2011-03-17T13:39:08Z")

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Partly confirming, partly checking the time difference.

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/53 "2011-03-17T14:25:16Z")

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Confirmed. Tally-ho, what what!

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/54 "2011-03-17T15:01:21Z")

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PM recd. TexCat reporting for duty.

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/55 "2011-03-17T15:10:11Z")

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Confirmed.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/56 "2011-03-17T15:15:39Z")

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Confirming is silly. I refuse to do it.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/57 "2011-03-17T15:16:39Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> …and if I’m named Captain, my first act will be to kill the whole lot of you and burn your ship to cinders!
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> Oh, wait…disregard that.

Uh Hal, the mike is live.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/58 "2011-03-17T15:37:10Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> …and if I’m named Captain, my first act will be to kill the whole lot of you and burn your ship to cinders!

\<snipped\>

i think that this is a baaaaaaaad idea.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/59 "2011-03-17T15:39:05Z")

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**peeker** , Hal was quoting a TV show. You ought to feel sheepish if you took that any other way and pulled the wool over your own eyes. Ewe get it?

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/60 "2011-03-17T16:06:39Z")

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ScubaBen, I didn’t see your name on the crew list. Are you some stowaway?

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