# Mafia: Mutiny on the SS Incorrigible **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 14, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676 "2011-03-14T17:51:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/681 "2011-04-08T20:22:39Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > By the way–I really hope peeker is okay, don’t get me wrong…I’m worried about him–but it really sucks Town could have a killing role right now but it’s going unused. It’d be really useful about now. Idle, do you really have no clue what is going on in this game? Peeker killed Hal who was a loyalist. Peeker’s killing ability is gone. Are you intentionally trying to look clueless? Is this some tactic to appear less scummy by looking less knowledgeable? If so, I don’t think it’s working. > [@](#): > > You are a Commissar covertly placed on board the SS Insipid by the Secret Police to prevent the kind of mutiny that is now occurring. Each Night, you may opt to eliminate one crew member who is not in the Brig. However, your authority is limited; if you kill a Loyal crew member, you must resign your commission (lowering your rank to the bottom), place yourself in the Brig (although you will not have a standing arrest warrant), and you will **no longer have the ability to kill each Night**. And I hope peeker is okay, too! ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/682 "2011-04-08T20:45:55Z")
No, I have a clue… Listen, what it is is this: I’m disabled. It’s nothing physical, though, it’s a mental disease. It’s bad enough to keep me from working. I’m on disability and have been for the last ten years (even though I’m just 31 and was 21 when I first got placed on it). On disability and unable to work at the early age of 21, how’s that for a life? But that’s how it is. My mental disability is just that bad. And one of the facets of it is my mind is sometimes a whole lot like swiss cheese. I forget things very easily sometimes. You could tell me something and I’ll register it, but then I’ll forget about it the next day. Sometimes it’s longer (like, I’ll forget it in a week) and sometimes it’s sooner (like, I’ll forget it in a few minutes). It also seems to go in phases. These times can last anywhere to a few days, to a few weeks, to even a few months. Right now is a bad phase for me…my mental capabilities haven’t been great lately (and for about two or three months now). It will clear up soon (it always does), but I have no idea when, and it will always (eventually) return, lasting for an unknown amount of time. Because of this, I planned to make this my last game of mafia, only hosting from now on, but not ever playing again. It’s why I dropped out of the Scooby Doo one on my boards initially (although them needing a sub very badly made me step up to fill it). So there you have it. Vote for me if you want, I don’t care anymore. This isn’t fun for me anymore. Mafia used to be fun for me, but all it is now is stressful. Stressful to try to keep up with all the info and to actually remember it, stressful to have people voting for me for (what I believe to be) silly reasons (initially…not lately; I can fully understand why someone would want to vote for me now) Mafia is supposed to be fun, though…so I’m not going to play any longer until it’s fun again and until I feel my mental capacity is up to it. Again, vote for me if you want, I don’t care. I’m Town and I’m really the (loyal) Hacker…but I’m done trying to give excuses why I seem to be skimming. Truth is: I’m not. I haven’t been skimming. I just totally am forgetting things I just read the day before. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/683 "2011-04-08T21:20:05Z")
Oh dear, I am sorry, Idle. I had no idea. I feel like an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/684 "2011-04-08T22:27:32Z")
Don’t, it’s not like you knew. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/685 "2011-04-09T00:53:24Z")
I’m really sorry, Idle. I didn’t mean to push you like that. I withdraw my accusation. I’ll respond to Red’s post soon but I wanted to get that out there tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/686 "2011-04-09T20:33:17Z")
I’m sorry Idle - it sucks when a game stops being fun and starts being a source of aggravation. You take care of yourself and I look forward to playing in the games you host. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/687 "2011-04-11T03:09:38Z")
After reviewing both Stanislaus and glowacks. I gotta go with Stanislaus. His post in suspicion of Idle makes one unsupported remark that really gets me. > [@](#): > > If you read the full quote, you’ll see that Crackrat is challenging Idle over the difference between claiming a non-aligned role like Hacker and an aligned role like Cop. But despite making that challenge, he concludes that Idle is likely Town. When Scum challenge someone but nonetheless conclude they’re Town, it’s frequently because that person is Scum and they want to a) cover themselves and b) help a buddy. This statement doesn’t ring true to me at all. IME at least half the time when scum conclude someone is town, it’s often because they are trying backpedal away from a position that they’ve made, or they are trying to appear to be doing something. Best example I can think of: In the Cecil pond game, there was a scum who spent all their time going on about who was laying low and what it meant in terms of their alignment. Pretty much just making shit up to look like they were doing any kind of analysis, when really it was as useful as fluff. Generally speaking, however, when scum comment on a person being of any alignment, it’s just too null to tell (Are they saying it to implicate? Are they saying it to cover up? Are they saying just because they can’t think of anything else to say?). But here you’ve come up with nice neat theory about how a scum has pointed out another scum. It’s just too damn thin. **vote Stanislaus** ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/688 "2011-04-11T10:28:56Z")
Yes - it might mean this and it might mean that. It could be A but we can’t rule out B. I’ve tried waiting for clear and unambiguous proof - it hasn’t come. So there comes a point when you just have to stick your neck out, and that’s where I’ve got to. Are you going to say that it’s impossible for town to do what I’ve done? Or just that you can see a plausible scum motivation for it? I need to make another two votes: **vote NAF** - I think we’re going to need some clarity here. **vote fluiddruid** - There are three reasons for this: 1. Very late vote on Crackrat, when he was already at the top of the leaderboard. 2. Snuggling me for pushing Crackrat 3. The strong push on Idle once he started coming under criticism. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/689 "2011-04-11T13:10:03Z")
Hello folks, Realistically, my work commitments on Monday mornings tend to be huge, so it’s going to be hard for me to return and acknowledge all the points here. I will try. In the meantime, before I get ready for work I wanted to get my votes in order, since this’ll probably be my final contributions to the game. Anyway, since I had four votes (whoops): **unvote Idle Thoughts unvote NAF1138 vote Stanislaus** I don’t really want to see NAF1138 next since I’m guessing Town’s hitting tomorrow in a lynch or lose situation and I think there are better candidates (Red Skeezix in particular). My vote on Stanislaus is pretty much because I think his argument against me is bogus and lazy. Voting me because I agreed with his argument, and substantiated it in detail, is not jumping on a criticism bandwagon by any stretch of the imagination. I think anyone can read back through the thread and see why I had sincere concerns about Idle. Also, I really hate when things are summed up as ‘snuggling’ without any argument - if you have a issue with what I said, try being specific about what was so scummy about what I said. And, further, if it’s a sound vote to vote for me because of my vote for Crackrat when he had a good number of votes, his vote for me qualifies just the same. Good for the goose, good for the gander, then. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/690 "2011-04-11T14:56:43Z")
Day Four Vote Count All Votes by Voting Player **fluiddruid** =\> [del]Idle Thoughts (674-689)[/del], Red Skeezix (675), glowacks (675), [del]NAF1138 (675-689)[/del], Stanislaus (689). **TexCat** =\> no votes. **Idle Thoughts** =\> Stanislaus (661), fluiddruid (661), glowacks (661). **Red Skeezix** =\> NAF1138 (678), fluiddruid (678), Stanislaus (687). **Inner Stickler** =\> no votes. **glowacks** =\> TexCat (677), fluiddruid (677), Stanislaus (677). **Stanislaus** =\> Idle Thoughts (659), NAF1138 (688), fluiddruid (688). **NAF1138** =\> no votes. **peekercpa** =\> no votes. Net Votes **Stanislaus** (4) \<= fluiddruid, Idle Thoughts, Red Skeezix, glowacks. **fluiddruid** (4) \<= Idle Thoughts, Red Skeezix, glowacks, Stanislaus. **glowacks** (2) \<= fluiddruid, Idle Thoughts. **NAF1138** (2) \<= Red Skeezix, Stanislaus. **Red Skeezix** (1) \<= fluiddruid. **TexCat** (1) \<= glowacks. **Idle Thoughts** (1) \<= Stanislaus. With 9 players eligible to vote, 5 votes are needed to space. With these votes, no one will be spaced. About four hours until the end of the Day. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/691 "2011-04-11T15:00:54Z")
**Vote Stanislaus Vote glowacks Vote Texcat** **Examine Red Skeezix** ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/692 "2011-04-11T15:50:45Z")
For a while, I was thinking of changing my votes today and voting for Idle. ☹ But in the end, they remain the same as yesterday: **Vote: Fluiddruid Vote: Stanislaus Vote: NAF** ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/693 "2011-04-11T16:58:46Z")
Day Four Vote Count All Votes by Voting Player **fluiddruid** =\> [del]Idle Thoughts (674-689)[/del], Red Skeezix (675), glowacks (675), [del]NAF1138 (675-689)[/del], Stanislaus (689). **TexCat** =\> fluiddruid (692), Stanislaus (692), NAF1138 (692). **Idle Thoughts** =\> Stanislaus (661), fluiddruid (661), glowacks (661). **Red Skeezix** =\> NAF1138 (678), fluiddruid (678), Stanislaus (687). **Inner Stickler** =\> Stanislaus (691), glowacks (691), TexCat (691). **glowacks** =\> TexCat (677), fluiddruid (677), Stanislaus (677). **Stanislaus** =\> Idle Thoughts (659), NAF1138 (688), fluiddruid (688). **NAF1138** =\> no votes. **peekercpa** =\> no votes. Net Votes **Stanislaus** (6) \<= fluiddruid, TexCat, Idle Thoughts, Red Skeezix, Inner Stickler, glowacks. **fluiddruid** (5) \<= TexCat, Idle Thoughts, Red Skeezix, glowacks, Stanislaus. **glowacks** (3) \<= fluiddruid, Idle Thoughts, Inner Stickler. **NAF1138** (3) \<= TexCat, Red Skeezix, Stanislaus. **TexCat** (2) \<= Inner Stickler, glowacks. **Red Skeezix** (1) \<= fluiddruid. **Idle Thoughts** (1) \<= Stanislaus. With 9 players eligible to vote, 5 votes are needed to space. With these votes, **Stanislaus** will be spaced. Standing orders: **Red Skeezix** will be examined. The Day ends in about two hours. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/694 "2011-04-11T17:12:28Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > The underlined phrase is weasely as hell. She’s selected a group of people to vote for and simultaneously down playing her own vote. It’s shady… You use adjectives like “shady” and “scummy” repeatedly during your case against me, Red, but without defining why things are what you say they are. This seems like smearing to me. Just saying something is shady doesn’t make it so. > [@](#): > > …and it ignores the fact that at least one of the people who she’s voting for there haven’t even seen Idle’s claim yet. She’s rushing in early here to defend Idle with the “best reason she has”. I believe I’ve already responded to the issue of me voting for the Idle bandwagoneers, but in case I haven’t, I’ll repeat myself. It was Day One. The bandwagon against Idle seemed to be on very poor grounds and I didn’t believe he was scum. I felt that voting for a group of people which I felt included scum was my best effort. What about this exactly is scummy? There wasn’t enough information at that time to build a case on four scum players and I felt I explained myself adequately. Idle was worth defending at that time. I didn’t think Idle did anything wrong and there is nothing wrong with defending another player. I mean, frankly, if you say it’s a scum tell to defend someone because they turn out to be Town, how does it look if they turn out to be scum? This sort of logic means you can never back up anyone, ever, even if you don’t believe they are scum – or even if you don’t know if they’re scum or not, but you think the case against them is terrible. This is stupid, just like voting someone for “cuddling” as Stanislaus did. You’re saying that what I did is X, and I’m therefore scum, without really talking about why X is scum behavior. Again, it feels like smearing to me. > [@](#): > > She then follows it up with further defense of idle’s play and her crappy votes: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13604567&postcount=300](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13604567&postcount=300) > > Although this defense of her crappy votes contains a blatant mistruth. She got caught making BS votes (randomly picking 4 voters for a “scummy bandwagon”). So she justfies part of it by saying that she excluded Inner Stickler because of his claim; but his claim came after her vote. So her selection of that scummy bandwagon was more bull. This was pointed out and I admitted it was my mistake. Seems funny to bring it up now when you didn’t argue with me then. But, again, what’s scummy about this? Why would a scum player use an easily provable lie? What advantage does that have to me? It makes more sense to be what it, in fact, is – an error. I had omitted Inner, and in my haste to respond the next morning I had worked backward, went “oh yeah he claimed”. As I’ve already explained. > [@](#): > > At the end of the day, she demotes Natlaw. Instead of promoting Inner, which would have been a pretty protown move. … Ahh it’s time for Day 2! > > I ask you a question, and you don’t answer it. You have yet to explain why you felt a demotion of Natlaw was favorable to a promotion of Inner. Again, why bring this up now? You apparently had no issue with it at that time based on the information you had, so why think that I had more information than you? I’d have to go back through at that time to know exactly what I was thinking but I had asked the group about who we should promote/demote. I finally ended up doing something that I felt a) might be constructive and b) at least wouldn’t cause a lot of officer jostling about because, in the end, nobody else had discussed it with me. I demoted who I felt to be a scum player. > [@](#): > > Your votes that day you give reasoning behind 3 of them, and no real reasoning behind the last. The one missing the reasoning:crackrat. It feels like a bus to me. The vote isn’t going to get crackrat lynched at that point. It looks like a vote to confuse vote analysis, or something you can point back to. For crying out loud. You blame me for not voting for a vote leader one day, and here, shortly, will blame me for voting for someone who IS a vote leader. In fact, the same player! \*\*This is the sum of my problem with your case against me.\*\*You take individual events and make a case for their scumminess but then hold the opposite view in terms of other events. No matter what I do, I’m scummy. As I said at the time, my vibe was against Crackrat. I later came back and made a more substantial case on him (after some internal waffling). I turned out to be right. > [@](#): > > You didn’t promote/demote anyone that day. Why is that? At that time I was expecting to die and nobody would discuss the issue with me. Again, I wanted some help from the group and some accountability. But of course, that didn’t happen. Why? If you felt this was such a huge problem, why didn’t you say something? I’ve asked if I should Brig someone today, for a further example; you didn’t respond to that, either. You seem to have a lot of concerns about how I use my officer powers when you’re making a case, but at no other time. This makes me suspect your motives. (Well, that and other stuff) > [@](#): > > You vote peeker, completely ignoring the fact that he cannot be the ringleader. (Despite the fact that it has been suggested already.) I voted for Peeker long before we knew anything about his status. Can you quote me on where exactly the problem is? I didn’t vote for him after he was brigged; are you thinking of someone else? Before he was brigged, we didn’t definitively know his role. In short, WTH? This doesn’t make sense. > [@](#): > > This post has two huge strawman misrepresentations in it: > > 1. That I said that I could confirm anyone. Guess what? Never said that. > 2. That I said that NAF should be confirmed. Guess what? I actually said he needed to be “brigged, lynched or confirmed”. Please. It was implied. There was no way to confirm NAF that day unless you investigated him and we killed you. > [@](#): > > You accuse me of being irresponsible by voting for NAF or wishing his alignment be known. What else should we do with NAF? Let him live till the end of the game? Frankly, yes. It’s not a matter of a moratorium on killing him because I think he should live; it’s a matter of not wasting a lynch on him. I, in fact, asked him if he’d get himself modkilled because I do think he should be dead, but that his lynch was a waste of time. We’re one day away from lynch or lose now – let’s say we lynch NAF. Who goes next if he’s Town? Who goes next if he’s Scum? I’ll answer you – we have no fracking idea because he lacks the history for us to get any feasible info. Lynching what is, essentially, a lurker at this stage of the game is as anti-town as it comes. If we waste a lynch on NAF without at least 2 more scum kills on the table then we are ASKING to lose this game, ESPECIALLY since peeker is now AWOL and a confirmed townie. > [@](#): > > Inner starts getting suspicious about Idle, and fluid (and Stanislaus) jump right on board. It looks like jumping on the coattails of suspicion to me. Funny that I made this point before you did but explained myself. Let’s get you on record, then – did you not think, at that point, there wasn’t a good case against Idle? I certainly did and saying that I’m jumping on coattails is irresponsible. I held back, if anything, but it seemed to be accurate until Idle explained. Again, what is scummy about that? Letting Idle go on inaccuracies and inconsistencies to avoid being perceived as scum is miles and away worse than holding him accountable. The fact that you suggest otherwise belies your true intentions. I’ll just leave this here. We (well, you guys) might very well need it tomorrow if I die. **arrest Red Skeezix** ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/695 "2011-04-11T17:14:17Z")
Oh, and one more thing – if my behavior was scummy in questioning Idle, Red Skeezix, why didn’t you hold glowacks to task for the exact same thing? ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/696 "2011-04-11T17:18:51Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > For a while, I was thinking of changing my votes today and voting for Idle. ☹ But in the end, they remain the same as yesterday: > > Vote: Fluiddruid > Vote: Stanislaus > Vote: NAF Tex, not for nothing, but could we get some defense of the votes? I’m willing to give Inner a pass to a point since he’s confirmed, but you’re not. This just dropping of votes in a row isn’t terribly helpful and it doesn’t serve Town to give so little information about what you’re thinking. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/697 "2011-04-11T18:58:06Z")
I’ve voted the same people for several days now. So no further explanation from me. Bwahaha. **Demote: Inner Stickler** ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/698 "2011-04-11T19:05:14Z")
Final vote count is substantially the same as posted in post 693. **Stanislaus** is spaced and was Loyal Crew. It is now Night Four. 1. **fluiddruid** - Captain 2. **TexCat** - Executive Officer 3. **Idle Thoughts** - Chief of Security 4. **Red Skeezix** - Head of Engineering 5. **glowacks** - Ship’s Doctor 6. **Inner Stickler** 7. **NAF1138** 8. **peekercpa** Standing orders: Arrest warrant for **Red Skeezix**. The Night will end Tuesday, Apr 12, at 12 noon PT (3pm ET). ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/699 "2011-04-11T21:26:35Z")
So, toDay’s Doc results will now go to **Glowacks?** Wow, that kinda sucks since I’ve been mostly suspicious of him the whole game. NOW what was your reason for taking a confirmed Town out of the doc’s position, **Texcat**? ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/700 "2011-04-11T21:29:52Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > I’ve voted the same people for several days now. So no further explanation from me. Bwahaha. > > Demote: Inner Stickler How can you possibly justify either of these as a town player? 😕 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676.md?page=36)