# Mafia: Mutiny on the SS Incorrigible

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 14, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676 "2011-03-14T17:51:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/61 "2011-03-17T16:20:31Z")

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he’s our Tribble

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/62 "2011-03-17T16:31:15Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> Confirming is silly. I refuse to do it.

Yes and no. It doesn’t make a big difference, but before you get the PM any questions you have about the rules or comments about strategy come from a neutral POV. Once you’ve read it, you’re irrevocably committed to your side and everything you say has to be read with that in mind. If you have a deludedly swashbuckling mental self-image - and I like to think I do - you can liken it to the dueller’s “En garde!” - a sign that from this point on you’re playing the game seriously and everyone else should be on notice.

Not confirming is hardly going to give you an edge, but I think it’s a nice courtesy to your fellow players.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/63 "2011-03-17T16:41:34Z")

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> [@Stanislaus](#):
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> … - a sign that from this point on you’re playing the game seriously …

\<snipped\>

do people actually do this?

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/64 "2011-03-17T16:47:27Z")

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“Seriously” may not have been the _mot juste_, but “half-assedly during lunch hour” didn’t really fit with my Walter Mitty-esque duelling simile.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/65 "2011-03-17T16:48:15Z")

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and to kick off our dope version of mc hale’s navy.

**vote story, normal, stanislaus and fubbleskag**

reasoning in this order:

because  
for not taking this game seriously enough  
for taking this game too seriously  
for kicking my ass at poker

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/66 "2011-03-17T16:54:15Z")

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and just so it is clear that i am not running afoul of the hold no grudges from previous mafia games dictum i am voting for **fubs** because of a grudge from a not mafia game.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/67 "2011-03-17T17:00:15Z")

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Peeker is using too many real words. I am suspicious.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/68 "2011-03-17T17:02:18Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> i think that this is a baaaaaaaad idea.

As much as I don’t condone this sort of behavior, I do feel the need to share this.

I was playing Words With Friends (a Scrabble knockoff for the iPhone) yesterday. I made a move, got my new tiles, and this is what greeted me.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/69 "2011-03-17T17:54:19Z")

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> [@TexCat](#):
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> ScubaBen, I didn’t see your name on the crew list. Are you some stowaway?

See post #32. I’m not in; I’m just providing snide comments until Game On! happens. And it has. I’ll be in the lounge thread with the chips & salsa.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/70 "2011-03-17T18:00:36Z")

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Confirmed.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/71 "2011-03-17T18:06:12Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> Confirming is silly. I refuse to do it.

You are bad at this “not confirming” game.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/72 "2011-03-17T18:11:01Z")

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**vote: NAF** for arguing with me.  
**vote: Stanislaus**. En garde!  
**vote: peeker**. OMGUS  
\*\*vote: Drain Bead/b]. Policy vote. I’ll make up the policy at a later date.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/73 "2011-03-17T18:30:18Z")

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Rules clarifications:

Being killed does not block the use of any powers being used the same Night.

If the votes to space a player are tied and cannot be resolved by rank, then no spacing will occur.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/74 "2011-03-17T18:44:01Z")

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Vote: **fluiddruid** , **TexCat** , **peekercpa** and **Mahaloth**

Reasoning: Someone of rank is likely scum, and it ain’t me.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/75 "2011-03-17T18:48:27Z")

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I was just thinking about that. With 16 players and 4 scum, there’s a 31% chance that a scum is lurking in the officers section. So the scum are not only going to be trying to eliminate townies with powers, they’re going to try to place their co-conspirators in positions of power without being obvious about it.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/76 "2011-03-17T18:50:16Z")

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Did you play the previous game, IS?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/77 "2011-03-17T18:55:33Z")

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Yeah, I don’t think I played so well in that game. Why do you ask?

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/78 "2011-03-17T19:01:07Z")

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Just your wording in that post. The conclusion you drew can’t actually have come from your “just thinking”; you’d already have realized it from the last game. Just the tiniest whiff of disingenuousness.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/79 "2011-03-17T19:04:51Z")

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Really? I thought I was the best judge of what I’d be able to realize given various data points. Would you are to explain to the class why I can’t have come to the conclusion that scum are going to be sneaky about rank changes in this game without information from the last game?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/80 "2011-03-17T19:06:22Z")

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NETA: Would you Care, not would you are.

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