# Mafia: Mutiny on the SS Insipid \[Game Over\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 31, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896 "2009-07-31T18:32:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/421 "2009-08-27T13:50:31Z")
Because then we have someone we know is loyal in security. Please promote \*\*Scuba \*\*then. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/422 "2009-08-27T15:03:10Z")
Day Four Current Vote Count 4 players outside the Brig =\> 3 votes to lynch. **Darth Sensitive** is lynched with these votes. **Darth Sensitive** (3): ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [386], Scuba\_Ben [389], ColdPhoenix [418]. **ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** (2): Scuba\_Ben [383-402+419], ColdPhoenix [396]. **ColdPhoenix** (1): ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [95], [del]Scuba\_Ben [402-406][/del]. Arrest warrants: **Darth Sensitive** by ColdPhoenix [354]. **ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** by ColdPhoenix [396]. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/423 "2009-08-27T18:03:43Z")
One hour left until the end of the Day. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/424 "2009-08-27T19:16:58Z")
The Mutinous Ring-Leader **Darth Sensitive** is hustled out the airlock. The few remaining crew head to their Night-time stations, full of trepidation, for the Mutiny has not yet been quashed. At the next Morning, Loyal Crew-member **ColdPhoenix** follows a bloody trail to an equipment locker. He has a gut-wrenching feeling, in part because of finding Loyal Mate **Scuba\_Ben** stuffed within. In part because he now knows he is the last Loyal crew. And in part because Mutinous Cracker **ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** is holding a plasma torch to his midsection. **The Mutiny has succeeded!** Thanks, everyone for playing. You’re welcome to read the [forbidden thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=526950), the [moderator’s board](http://pleonast.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=insipid), and the [scum board](http://pleonast.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=mutiny). Comments, complaints and suggestions are very much welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/425 "2009-08-27T19:25:57Z")
Gosh darnit! Great game, Pleo. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/426 "2009-08-27T19:34:35Z")
Whew. I have been dealing with my laptop and cell phone being stolen out of my (locked and in line-of-sight of my dentist’s receptionist desk at 7:00am this morning) truck. I was planning on removing my vote on Darth at the last minute. Glad that didn’t end up humping us. ☹ All is fair, I suppose. Winning with 2 scum alive would have been a little salty in the wound. 😃 I kid, I kid. Good game everyone. Thanks for thinking it up, Pleo. The dynamics of the officer powers makes this setup extremely attractive and scalable for future itterations, I think. I hope the future mods out there are taking notes! ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/427 "2009-08-27T19:37:00Z")
I’m thinking this was a bit balanced in favor of scum, but I don’t know if I’m capable of being objective. I was sure the Muties were screwed when Inner didn’t get Chronos in the brig. ---
**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/428 "2009-08-27T19:37:10Z")
As expected… What I don’t understand is why the pretence? ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/429 "2009-08-27T19:40:38Z")
Good game. (You scurvy scallawags.) I am now 2-0 when I die early, and 0-2 when I survive to the end. Out of curiosity, what did Ring-Leader and Cracker do for the Muties, and Hacker for the Crew? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/430 "2009-08-27T19:41:20Z")
> [@](#): > > I’m thinking this was a bit balanced in favor of scum, but I don’t know if I’m capable of being objective. I’m inclined to agree, since it looks to me like Town basically did everything right. We only made two mislynches, and one of those, we brigged a Mutie at the same time, so it’s really more like one-and-a-half mislynches. Town really shouldn’t lose at that rate. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/431 "2009-08-27T19:43:04Z")
Oh, and the secret boards aren’t accessible. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/432 "2009-08-27T19:43:41Z")
Agreeing with Cold that I don’t really understand why Cookies and Darth didn’t just dance a little “we’re gonna kill you” dance once Darth was confirmed in the security chair. Worried about a day-kill or vig or something? ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/433 "2009-08-27T19:45:14Z")
The pretense was fear that you or Cold had something like a day-kill or a night protection. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/434 "2009-08-27T19:50:52Z")
Cracker was me, who broke Darth out of the brig. One Night only I could break out anyone I wanted to. Ring-leader was Darth, who would have investigated as Loyal. I’m not exactly sure what Diggit’s Hacker power was described as in his PM, but we all saw it in action. You’ll see this once you get into the Scum boards, but we had our share of goofs as well. Inner missed his chance to do a scummy investigation (though that was moot as we were already killing Diggit) and I still don’t know why he didn’t put Chronos in the brig when he had the chance. He was already going to be sacrificed. I exposed ignorance of the town win condition in my “why I know there are 2 scum left” post towards the end, and if Darth had ever turned up dead, I think the repeated nudges for someone to investigate him would have looked pretty bad for me. We got really lucky with Hal. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/435 "2009-08-27T19:54:22Z")
Even a night protection wouldn’t have been enough to save us: The Scum block the day-kill, the protector stops the night-kill, and we’re back where we started. Continue play until the protector guesses wrong, and then Scum wins. Really, Town’s only hope was a Vig. Which we didn’t have, so we didn’t have any hope at all. ---
**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/436 "2009-08-27T20:02:48Z")
It was an enjoyable game! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/437 "2009-08-27T20:07:21Z")
Hacker could make one change in position for any player. He used it to move **Ichini Sanshigo** to the Doctor position for day two. I thought that was a really great move, and was sort of baffled that no one guessed exactly what had happened. The other thing that I was wondering about that day was why no one ever brought up how utterly hosed **Scuba** and **Chronos** would have been with a false-mason claim if there had been any real ones around to counterclaim – probably revealing too much about myself here in terms of how to be sure to fool me in the future, but I’d have been arguing strongly for their being Town on that basis. As for what I did while I actually was still in the game: seems my scum-dar is so far better at picking out special town roles than scum ones. Sorry about that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/438 "2009-08-27T20:08:53Z")
Oh, and thanks **Pleonast** for a game that was a lot of fun to (mostly) watch. I’d love to see it run again (with changes as necessary to the hidden roles, and a few more players, preferably). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/439 "2009-08-27T20:17:54Z")
> [@](#): > > Hacker could make one change in position for any player. He used it to move Ichini Sanshigo to the Doctor position for day two. I thought that was a really great move, and was sort of baffled that no one guessed exactly what had happened. I dunno, I think [my guess](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11438248&postcount=205) was pretty close. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896/440 "2009-08-27T20:39:46Z")
Oh, it was. 🙂 But in any case I expect the Mason claim, coming at the same time, moved the discussion mostly on to other things. I think you and **Scuba** did well with that, by the way. Even right down to the fact of you both having gotten some suspicion on Day One, much as that must not have been in your plans. It kept the both of you and **Ichini** alive that night, I’d guess (though I haven’t read that part of the scum boards). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-insipid-game-over/504896.md?page=23)