# Mafia: Not-so-simple-Simpletown **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 6, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592 "2009-03-06T22:58:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/641 "2009-03-26T02:59:41Z")
This is a recap of my reasons for voting kitten yesterDay > [@me](#): > > You’re consitently hiding behind other’s opinions. > > You aren’t trying to find Scum. > > You’re trying to avoid suspicion. > > Town players shouldn’t mind getting suspcion if it helps to find Scum. > > Finding Scum is our only goal. Surviving isn’t even important for Town. > > Your play is anti-town. Beyond that, I can see the Scum mtivation in your play. The reasons seem to hold up despite kitten’s defense. also, the disappearance of \*\*kitten \*\*is noticed. Is it a spring break issue? a tired of mafia issue? a ‘i can’t seem to post anything that doesn’t garner me suspicion’ issue? ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/642 "2009-03-26T03:06:38Z")
Looking over the pasts for today, and this: > [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](#): > > I wish I could see the look on **Pleo’s** face when he read the death report. Struck me as odd. I mean sure, it could have been a discussion of the curse, but if a curse was fulfilled, it’d strike me more as a ‘Dammit’ and move on sort of thing. No, the way Hero says it…it implies extra information. Especially if the werewolves did tie a vote last night (which seems to be the leading theory). Vote Hero from Sector 7G ---
**Author:** ![Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hero_From_Sector_7G)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/643 "2009-03-26T03:20:21Z")
Curse? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/644 "2009-03-26T03:27:09Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > Looking over the pasts for today, and this: > > Struck me as odd. I mean sure, it could have been a discussion of the curse, but if a curse was fulfilled, it’d strike me more as a ‘Dammit’ and move on sort of thing. No, the way Hero says it…it implies extra information. It implies what extra information? That \*\*pleo \*\*was dead? early? again? especially given **sachertorte** ’s introduction to his death. > [@pedescribe](#): > > Especially if the werewolves did tie a vote last night (which seems to be the leading theory). WHAT? It’s the leading theory?\* really\*? beyond a redirect, paranoid gun owner, serial killer…I do not accept that the leading theory is that the wolves tied in deciding who to NK and \*\*pleo \*\*was killed because of that. I think someone has suggested it as a theory, but I wouldn’t expect you to just blindly accept that. And to install it as the leading theory of the town. There are too many other simpler, more plausible explanations. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/645 "2009-03-26T13:21:03Z")
**vote kitten FOS pedescribe for specious logic until he explains** ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/646 "2009-03-26T14:54:46Z")
[quote=“special\_ed, post:644, topic:488592”] It implies what extra information? That \*\*pleo \*\*was dead? early? again? especially given **sachertorte** ’s introduction to his death. [quote] HfS7G just said he had no idea what I meant by curse. Thus, that wasn’t what he was referring to. > [@special\_ed](#): > > WHAT? It’s the leading theory?\* really\*? beyond a redirect, paranoid gun owner, serial killer…I do not accept that the leading theory is that the wolves tied in deciding who to NK and \*\*pleo \*\*was killed because of that. > > I think someone has suggested it as a theory, but I wouldn’t expect you to just blindly accept that. And to install it as the leading theory of the town. There are too many other simpler, more plausible explanations. :shrugs: It stuck out in my mind. It’s my leading theory. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Svinlesha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/22d042/32.png) [@Mr.Svinlesha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Svinlesha)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/647 "2009-03-26T17:16:35Z")
We’re lynching in about 3 hours, yes? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Svinlesha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/22d042/32.png) [@Mr.Svinlesha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Svinlesha)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/648 "2009-03-26T17:17:51Z")
Where is everybody? ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/649 "2009-03-26T18:01:29Z")
> [@Mr.Svinlesha](#): > > Where is everybody? I’ve been wondering that for the last 2 days. ---
**Author:** ![Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hero_From_Sector_7G)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/650 "2009-03-26T19:02:50Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > Struck me as odd. I mean sure, it could have been a discussion of the curse, but if a curse was fulfilled, it’d strike me more as a ‘Dammit’ and move on sort of thing. No, the way Hero says it…it implies extra information. Especially if the werewolves did tie a vote last night (which seems to be the leading theory). I understand now you’re referring to Ped’s bad luck living through a game. I don’t like meta-gaming so I assumed you meant some mechanic I wasn’t familiar with. For the record, I do not think **Ped** was directly targeted and I do not think there was a tie among the scum faction. Why did you snip the rest of my [Post 554](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10960405&postcount=554)? It should shed a little more light on what I think happened last night. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/651 "2009-03-26T19:43:58Z")
**pedescribe** , could you just rephrase whatever it was that you tried to say? The curse is **Pleonast** dieing the first Night? But then it was fulfilled and **Hero** ’s comment stroke you more as a ‘Dammit’ and move one? But then you say ‘No, it does not’? What extra information does it imply? I couldn’t find any other reference for a curse here, but it did remind me of _Munchkin Mafia_ were Evil cursed as Night kill. In other words, add a delayed Night kill to the possibilities - though I guess we have to wait and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/652 "2009-03-26T20:01:45Z")
Wow. I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a boring day. I think I conked out and lost consciousness from all the boring. Boring day begets boring Dusk. Will the kitten survive? No. 2 - Hero From Sector 7G (Ichini Sanshigo, pedescribe) 1 - MentalGuy (BillMC) 1 - Ichini Sanshigo (Hero From Sector 7G) 3 - Sitnam (Almost Human, Mr. Svinlesha, ok11) 6 - willthekittensurvive? (Oredigger77, Nanook of the North Shore, [Undecided] Adrian, MentalGuy, Sitnam, special ed) 1 - special ed (Natlaw) **willthekittensurvive?, a Cabalist is Dead.** ---
**Author:** ![\_Undecided\_Adrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/eada6e/32.png) [@\_Undecided\_Adrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_Undecided_Adrian)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/653 "2009-03-26T20:33:26Z")
Wow, just wow. Go town! I’ll buy the first round. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/654 "2009-03-26T20:37:10Z")
Including the only other game I’ve been in, I am now 3 for 3. ---
**Author:** ![Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hero_From_Sector_7G)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/655 "2009-03-26T20:59:48Z")
It is probably obvious, but I just wanted to correct myself in [Post 650](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10975886&postcount=650). I meant to say Pleo, but said Ped. Those P’s are messing me up. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/656 "2009-03-26T21:51:14Z")
Damn, we’re getting this game in hand. Go town! Since Adrian is buying I’ll take a Johnny Walker Blue in a rocks glass. ---
**Author:** ![Almost\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@Almost\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Almost_Human)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/657 "2009-03-27T14:22:16Z")
Yay! Can I have 4 of whatever OD’s having please? And **sach** , sorry for contributing to the “most boring day ever” - I was ill but now I’m well and shall make a point of being garrullous to such an extent that you’ll most likely want to modkill me 😃 ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/658 "2009-03-27T19:40:51Z")
I think everyone is sleeping early this Night because we’re so work out from the most boring Day ever. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/659 "2009-03-28T12:04:05Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > Wow. I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a boring day. I think I conked out and lost consciousness from all the boring. Boring day begets boring Dusk. First, woot the flippin woot. Second, I had to go to Charlestown on Wed. and forgot my BB charger so have been powerless until this a.m. Sorry, to sach and the rest of you. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592/660 "2009-03-28T12:16:02Z")
And on catch up (that didn’t take long), I gotta agree with sach. Seriously, wtf. I mean I am wrong more often than not and go down various bunny holes with myopic perseverance. But, sheesh toDay reads like cotton candy that gets wet. There just ain’t much there. This is not strategy but merely an observation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-not-so-simple-simpletown/488592.md?page=34)