# Mafia Reunion Day 4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 31, 2017, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699 "2017-01-31T21:14:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/281 "2017-02-02T21:34:09Z")
> [@Mafia Reunion - Day Three](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/196): > > People I think seem Townie: **Sunny Daze, Biotop, Hooker Chem, sinjin, Capt. Klutz, Guiri.** I go back and forth between Town and null on **snfaulkner.** So, if anyone was wondering, I am going to do a quick dive into some of these “townie” people that Thing Fish mentioned in his post. Pretty sure there is at least one wolf in there. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/282 "2017-02-02T21:41:38Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > Someone killed angel, I suspect the wolves, if so, then I see them being suspect of Prof P as potential mafia. There are plenty of people who were suspicious of him as scum, and I don’t think he is a wolf, so he could be mafia or town. I am not trying to be obnoxious. But I fail to see why Scum would kill of one player (Angle) because they suspect another player (Prof P) is mafia. Why not just go for Prof P? Why add the extra WIFOM in the way the game might involve? I am fine with you thinking like that. My brain just doesn’t follow that line of thinking 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/283 "2017-02-02T21:45:22Z")
> [@Mafia Reunion - Day Three](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/740): > > (snip) > @Diggit #693, I guess there’s a chance a reveal would show “hostile” or “non-hostile” - we’re usually informed if a player is PFK but it would semi-confirm the rest of the group, which is unlikely. “YOU WIN if at any checkpoint (Dawn or Dusk) all 14 Scum players (Wolves + Mafia) are dead.” > > (snip) > I think Diggit is a good option today > D1#249 Diggit is 8th on Colby, no mention of Toejam on 5 votes > D1#264 Switches to snfaulkner for commenting on Colby’s meta > D1#282 Asks for proof of colby’s meta > D1#393 To Drain, explains why voted snf due to defense > D1#747 To Normal, denies seeing the train on Colby, reiterates reason for SNF vote > D2#230 To Johnny Bravo, is pinged by comments about scum not knowing who to defend, suggests they slightly defend all non-scum, revotes snf > D2#250 fixes vote color > D2#255 mini-Wow on snf, lots of fluff > D2#547 Comments on flaws in Paul’s plan for a VT claim > D2#552 Maybe there’s something to the delay in brewha’s switch, asks other holders > D2#558 Switches to Crys, does not believe there are two masonic groups > D2#596 Seems to think Crys is claiming to be on town’s side, not 3rd party? As if she’s counter-claiming the masons? > D2#606 Argues to get rid of 3rd parties, who knows what powers they could have or get > D2#816/820 Didn’t notice Lakai subbed back in > D3#368 Maybe Sario prevented an NK, wonders why people are not paranoid about the cult. Suggests that revealing the other switchholder would prove cultists are hostile? > D3#400 Finds cultist description fishy, concerned what happens once the re-group > D3#519 votes Thing Fish for list of town leans without reasoning > D3#695 Realises his mistake in #368, Crys has a scum switch > D3#691 fixes vote color again > D3#693 wants a cultist to die, considers wolves false-claiming scum > D3#695 does not trust people who say they think other players are town - does not mention other lean listers > D3#698 Continues surmises about crys as wolf, but no vote anymore? "Food for thought"His participation is light but looks OK, maybe a heavy focus on the 3rd parties, lots of confusion - missing Lakai subbing in, formatting votes, mistakes - a sign that he’s putting on a show maybe, I disagree with his stance on leans - especially in this game since no-one except the masons could really know that another player is town, but it’s his votes, from SNF for town leans, to Crys for 3rd party, then to Thing Fish for town leans (why is SNF good now?) and still coming up with plenty of reasons why he should still be voting Crys or Sach, feels forced to me, like he’s keeping up appearances. > (snip) > [@Mafia Reunion - Day Three](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1129): > > First of all, thanks to Total Lost for reminding me to answer this post. > > There isn’t actually a lot for me to respond. The points Guiri makes are mostly valid, though I believe I have explained that my stance on leans during this game is actually GOOD for town. > > 1. Both scum teams know they don’t know who is town fer sure > 2. Both scum teams know Town knows point 1 > 3. This makes town relax as to declaring someone “town” (hey, I don’t actually know fer sure!) > 4. But they will (probably) make this proclamations concerning someone who isn’t on their team > > Point 3 and 4 are important. Since Scum aren’t as wary as they have been in other games, they WILL and HAVE declared someone to be town without qualms. Witness both Thing Fish and jsgoddess doing it… jgoddess even defended Thing Fish ferchrissakes! > > And that’s why I focus on some of these posts. > > However, my playing philosophy is currently: > > 1. State my case > 2. Hope it is accepted by town and or revised > 3. Not fixate on it > > I still believe we have to do SOMETHING about the LUTHA cult. I also believe snfaulkner is very probably scum. But since no one else has backed me on that regard, I won’t fixate on the accusation. I am re-posting this because in my original answer to Guiri’s points during YesterNight I messed up the quoting and it seemed like Lakai had made this point . ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/284 "2017-02-02T22:07:45Z")
> [@Khameleon](#): > > I > > **FOS Johnny Bravo** > > I will also: > > **FOS Hoopy Frood** > > For jumping on Johnny’s ideas without adding anything. It seems like it could be a lazy Scum move. Wouldn’t it be ÜBER-COOL if any mafia player throwing a FOS couldn’t post again on other topics before having posted a re-read or case on the FOS’ed player 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/285 "2017-02-02T22:08:40Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > I am not trying to be obnoxious. But I fail to see why Scum would kill of one player (Angle) because they suspect another player (Prof P) is mafia. Why not just go for Prof P? Why add the extra WIFOM in the way the game might involve? > > I am fine with you thinking like that. My brain just doesn’t follow that line of thinking 🙂 The logic is that since Angel was so utterly convinced that Prof was Town, if you(you being the Wolves in this case) kill her, and she flips Mafia, you have a snap lynch on Prof the next Day that is both good for Town and good for the Wolves. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/286 "2017-02-02T22:10:31Z")
Hi all, apologies for this being my first post of the Day, but life got busy. I have skimmed through to the end of the thread (as of the time I started this post) and I’m going back now to the start to make observations and comments. Forgive me, I’m gonna try to get two or three points per post, but I’m cooking dinner and house chores too, so they won’t be contiguous posts, and some of it has been covered already. > [@NAF1138](#): > > \*\* > ToeJam - Doc Seward > AngeloftheNorth - vanilla town > \*\* > Are dead. ☹ > [@Total\_Lost](#): > > So - what is the plan with 2 lynches? > > Do we use it or not? > > I think let’s use number one on hunting Scum. And number two on the Cult. I think we should try to get 2 scum, but failing that one of the 2 claimed cultists needs to die to test their claim. It will have to be done, and we can’t count on scum kills or Batman to do it. We wasted the first opportunity and there are no guarantees we will get another chance to do it as a second lynch. I would rather it happen sooner than later so we can put some of the discussion points to rest and spur additional discussion regarding the reveal. If we have two good scum cases, I will definitely defer a cult lynch to another day and wait for either another multi lynch opportunity or hope for a scum or Batman cultist kill. If we do have 2 good scum cases, then of course we should do that. The most spurious thing that jumped out at me on first read through was **Hal** trying to smear 2 players ( **Cookies** and somebody else) for their votes on **Idle**. I never even clicked his link and didn’t know what it contained until other players commented. I was over it at that point, and his posting a screenshot of his pm was way out of bounds. I won’t fault anyone for their **Idle** vote regardless of the timetable. It was deserved and necessary. Trying to start a case against someone just for that is scummy AF. I need to read some more before voting, but **Hal** is on my candidate list. Now to go cook dinner. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/287 "2017-02-02T22:21:15Z")
> [@Plumpudding](#): > > Yup, the 3rd. I’m at CEST. > > I don’t remember what I ate last week either, but I do remember a game I invested several weeks of my time in. > > And that I feel is a pretty good argument for keeping an eye on her. Is it midnight there yet? if so WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO! If not, please disregard until it is. I’ll have a drink for ya when I get off work in 6ish hours. > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > [Happy Birthday!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJWjGPH_tBQ) Thanks! But creepy. > [@Plumpudding](#): > > [Sorry, forgot the birthday song!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvWdBWT-Vs8) Also thanks! And weird. If only the creepy puppet were singing the weird song, THAT would be spectacular! ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/288 "2017-02-02T22:21:24Z")
> [@DiggitCamara](#): > > So, if anyone was wondering, I am going to do a quick dive into some of these “townie” people that Thing Fish mentioned in his post. > > Pretty sure there is at least one wolf in there. While looking at the former list, I saw the second list Thing Fish posted. This one is very interesting, since it lists 6 players, where 3 are confirmed townsfolk (The post was, of course, during Lakai’s first iteration). > [@Mafia Reunion - Day One](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1145): > > (snip) > > So, for the record, here are my thoughts: the five players I would currently be happy to lynch are\*\* Pleonast, Toejam, Boozahol, Colby\*\*, and\*\* Lakai.\*\* I’ll also add\*\* Johnny Bravo\*\* to that list; he has had his vote parked on **Normal Phase** since page one, hasn’t been around lately, and I seem to recall thinking he was coming off really scummy earlier but can’t remember why. (snip) An early find as I investigate the second list is this quote by Boozahol > [@Mafia Reunion - Day One](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1116): > > I don’t think **Lakai** seems particularly scummy, but I never really begrudge a Day One vote. This is a mighty fast turn-around, though, at the very end of the day. At least some of this cavalcade smells of garlic or needs a full-body wax. which is a typical (to me) freudian slip by scum when a probable lynch involves someone they know is not on their team. Therefore, my call (so far) would be: **Vote Boozahol Squid** on probable wolfiness. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/289 "2017-02-02T22:29:52Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > It’s both. They aren’t exclusive. I don’t understand why several people seem to be unable to grasp the concept that there can be LUTHA AND other 3P roles at play. For LUTHA to be hostile win stealers with a kill would IMO be imbalanced and unlikely. For LUTHA to exist as a nonhostile nonexclusive 3P faction and have other 3P say a SK, would not be imbalanced and more likely. What about the two posts you quoted led you to the conclusion that I was posting two conflicting exclusive possibilities? > > Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk II asked because that is not what you said in the first post I quoted, \*\* Paul \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/290 "2017-02-02T22:32:55Z")
> [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](#): > > The logic is that since Angel was so utterly convinced that Prof was Town, if you(you being the Wolves in this case) kill her, and she flips Mafia, you have a snap lynch on Prof the next Day that is both good for Town and good for the Wolves. But couldn’t the case the be the other way around. Take a chance and if she is Town, then your teammate wolfy-Prof seems semi-confirmed? ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/291 "2017-02-02T22:38:13Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > I mentioned it in my post about Khameleon, but it was a little buried so I’ll repeat it. > > Barring some other source of data or analysis, I am going to consider voting (or advocating a vote) for Idle Thoughts to be a null tell. He had to go, and he went. > > Anybody who tries to build a case on a player solely based on a vote for Idle, even after he posted his screenshot, is going to get the hinky eye from me. Not only is it a lazy accusation, but it’s a wrongheaded one. > > Idle may have been town, but that doesn’t mean lynching him wasn’t the right move. It sucked, because we lost a legitimate lynch, but it was the right move. I have to - and have- agreed with this D3 vote records are borked because of it ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/292 "2017-02-02T22:47:25Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > **Boozahol Squid PI** (5 votes) > > Captain Klutz (45), EnderW24 (102), Biotop (180), snfaulkner (192), Hooker Chemical (262) > > **Khameleon** (3 votes) > > Johnny Bravo (26), Hoopy Frood (52), Prof. Pepperwinkle (154) > > **Prof. Pepperwinkle** (3 votes) > > Pleonast (121), Nanook (152), bufftabby (197) > > **DiggitCamara** (3 votes) > > Paulwhoisaghost (20), Totallost (172), GuiriEnEspana (263) > > **Hooker Chemical** (1 vote) > > Lakai (46) > [@DiggitCamara](#): > > While looking at the former list, I saw the second list Thing Fish posted. This one is very interesting, since it lists 6 players, where 3 are confirmed townsfolk (The post was, of course, during Lakai’s first iteration). > > An early find as I investigate the second list is this quote by Boozahol > > which is a typical (to me) freudian slip by scum when a probable lynch involves someone they know is not on their team. Therefore, my call (so far) would be: > > **Vote Boozahol Squid** > > on probable wolfiness. I’m trying not to vote for you twice based on this. You vote **Boozahol Squid** with this IMO really whimpsy-vote. And you just happen to do it when he’s ahead? I’d like to ask you to point to where you first posted about Squid and if you could be so kind to tell me why you find looking at Thing Fish only tells you something about Squid… ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/293 "2017-02-02T23:02:37Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > Flame out from the guy that invited us all here. With screenshots, ffs. In a Mafia game that is already huge and cantankerous without trying to strategize and parse through flames and meta crap. Consider it a solitary example of my voting to put someone out of their apparent misery with prejudice in my Mafia career, and **a sincere prescription for some quality time with a bacon cheeseburger** once he flipped. God damnit! I’m starving. I need a hit of that sweet bacon cheeseburgery yumminess! > [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > A dead vanilla townie is arguably more trusted than a living one, short of trusted investigation results showing them to be Town while they are still alive. Immortalizing words of a Townie ‘clearing’ a Scum would be a valid strategy imho. I suppose this is a point I hadn’t thought of, but I’m not not convinced that that is the case. > [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > If we have two lynches, I don’t see what could possibly be bad about a tie decided by [random.org](http://random.org)? I’m fairly certain that if we had a tie at 14 votes each, both would be lynched. > [@](#): > > Happy birthday SNF, Plump, and Punxsutawney Phil Sowerby… Missed this earlier, Thanks! > [@](#): > > So no fear of being NK-ed, godfather or alpha? Nice catch! I was already wary of Khameleon, but this puts her in the solidly scum lean column. I will vote for her if needed. > [@LightFoot](#): > > I have to - and have- agreed with this D3 vote records are borked because of it I would say TOTALLY Borked. Or Yarbled. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/294 "2017-02-02T23:16:17Z")
Khameleon [spoiler] [D1.979](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19919606&postcount=979) Trying to catch up. 2nd post better than editing. Colby may or may not have made a slip. Pinged by Septimus. [D1.982](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19919611&postcount=982) Correcting what she said Colby said. [D1.1407](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19926826&postcount=1407) Crappy outcome. Not sure who she would have voted for. > [@](#): > > After his claim, Septimus seems like the most obvious target for any malicious party with a Day kill. I think it seems far more likely that he was the regular Mafia Day kill than the Wolf Outrider getting lucky. I suppose they both may have targeted him and the third death was the result of a third party. Seems odd to me that she attributes one of the deaths (Septimus, Normal Phase) to 3rd party. [D2.66](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19929093&postcount=66) Another crappy start. May have been mixed up about kills. Perhaps Suburban tracked someone before he died? FOS ToeJam; 3 known townies voted for him. Idle’s lack of interest might be because he is VT? [D2.67](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19929103&postcount=67) Disagrees with Drain’s vote on CaptK, because soft claim from Septimus did look suspicious. [D2.202](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19931488&postcount=202) May be misremembering whether it’s town!Idle or scum!Idle that doesn’t like to play. [D2.207](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19931710&postcount=207) Questions Brewha’s switch claim, based on Batman’s role with “You don’t get to not kill someone”. [D2.208](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19931713&postcount=208) Extra quote above? [D2.492](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19934576&postcount=492) FOS Brewha [D2.716](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19937742&postcount=716) Votes Brewha. Brewha’s switch PM does not match CaptK’s or Crys’s. Inclined to partially believe Crys. [D2.717](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19937750&postcount=717) Not sure JohnnyB’s idea of having all the cultists claim is a good one. [D2.1117](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19941823&postcount=1117) Crap! Sorry Brewha - I really though you were lying about being Town [D3.593](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19955566&postcount=593) Meeko’s poke vote is fair. Trying to catch up. Votes Idle. [D3.808](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19959132&postcount=808) This vote feels to me like it’s being cast by someone scummy who knows my alignment is Town and has knowledge about me, possibly from an investigation or whatnot. It might be OMGUS but FOS Thing Fish. [D3.810](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19959170&postcount=810) Idle - I have no idea if he’s playing us or not, but I’m a bit more inclined to think he is. ToeJam - I believe his claim for now. Five cultists seems like too many. [D3.811](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19959172&postcount=811) Huh? at SNF’s Huh? [D3.825](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19959410&postcount=825) All I was trying to do was to make a point that Thing Fish’s vote on me was weak and therefore perhaps he had addition information about me he didn’t care to elaborate on. It feels like someone searching for a place for a vote that will be somewhat inconspicuous. [D3.827](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19959447&postcount=827) Thanks Lakai.2 for finding scum role that could get info. Agrees with CaptK that LtL unlikely to work. [D3.1014](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19961410&postcount=1014) Fluff [D3.1017](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19961461&postcount=1017) Seriously? I was right about Thing Fish being scummy and that makes me suspicious? [D3.1018](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19961467&postcount=1018) Sorry to see Idle go. ThingFish was fishy because of his crap reasons for voting for me.[/spoiler] I’m still having trouble confusing Khameleon with Koldanar. So I wanted to review their posts. Here are my notes FWIW from Khameleon. At the end of D2 I was starting to think she had to be 3rd party, based on her believing Crys and voting Brewha, plus the odd statement that Septimus must have been killed by 3rd party. But then D3, she started talking about five cultists being too many, and so I’m not so sure. No vote D1. Voted Brewha D2. Voted Idle D3. OMGUS FOS’s. Hope I find time to look at Koldanar next. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/295 "2017-02-02T23:18:04Z")
😃 And Happy Birthday, SNF! ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/296 "2017-02-02T23:25:07Z")
Happy birthday snf and plum! ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/297 "2017-02-02T23:28:28Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > I’m trying not to vote for you twice based on this. > > You vote **Boozahol Squid** with this IMO really whimpsy-vote. And you just happen to do it when he’s ahead? > > I’d like to ask you to point to where you first posted about Squid and if you could be so kind to tell me why you find looking at Thing Fish only tells you something about Squid… um… what? 1. I started by looking at the players Thing Fish’s posts referenced. That was, after all, the reason why I voted yesterDay for him 2. This was in hopes to find someone from his team (he was a wolf. Remember?) 3. While looking at his posts and the players he referenced, I stumbled on a reference which contained another list of players, some of which have died and looked for a possible teammate amongst them. 4. Like I have said before, I look for certain behavioral clues in the posts. One of them, or, more likely, most of them, are based on knowledge townsfolk don’t have before a reveal. 5. Boozie made a comment stating he wasn’t in favor of a vote for someone who was headed for a lynch 6. In my eyes that sounded like someone who KNEW that that person wasn’t on the WOLF team and therefore could make a very, very slight reference as to the wrongness of that vote ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/298 "2017-02-02T23:29:07Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > Two players really pinged me at the end-of-day yeterDay. > > In [Post 882](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19960060&postcount=882), Idle flamed out, posting a screenshot which effectively proved his townliness. Once he did that, he was all-but-confirmed, and was likely going to be modkilled if he wasn’t lynched. > > He did that late enough in the Day that it likely wasn’t going to save him, having a pretty good lead in the vote count. Still, better to lynch an unknown than a known-town, so I (and several others) unvoted him. However, we also had these two: > > 1: **PlumPudding** unvoted **Idle** in [Post 889](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19960110&postcount=889), but then revoted him a half-hour later in [Post 897](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19960156&postcount=897). > > 2: **ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** voted for him in [Post 917](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19960443&postcount=917). > > In both these cases, we had players _voting for town_. Did he deserve a vote before posting that screenshot? Absolutely – I didn’t beleive a word of his claim. But once he made that post, he was as close as known town as one can be without specific mod confirmation. So to **PlumPudding** and **ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** , I would love an explanation – why would you vote for town knowing that he was town? Alternately, did you have some reason to think his claim was in some way false? Gave you some time to come back to read and respond to me and cookie, but since you haven’t I’ll **vote Hal Briston** Laaaazy “case”… way to smudge, dude! Fact is Idle needed, and deserved, to be eliminated from the game, town or not, end of story, the sooner the better. OMGUS of course. Looking forward to hearing back from you, Hal. @SNF: Half past midnight! High five! ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/299 "2017-02-02T23:29:51Z")
I never (as far as I know, at least) had referenced Boozie before. So… what I am saying is I don’t know why you ask me where I have referenced him before. ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/300 "2017-02-02T23:48:14Z")
> [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](#): > > The logic is that since Angel was so utterly convinced that Prof was Town, if you(you being the Wolves in this case) kill her, and she flips Mafia, you have a snap lynch on Prof the next Day that is both good for Town and good for the Wolves. +1, thank you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699.md?page=16)