# Mafia Reunion Day 4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 31, 2017, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699 "2017-01-31T21:14:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/521 "2017-02-05T17:15:41Z")
Biotop’s explanation makes some sense, even though I don’t agree with the logic of assuming the other switch holder might have died after only two scum were killed. Seems to me that the odds would favor the other switch holder still being alive, but I can see the logic of what Biotop was doing even though I don’t agree with it. Unvote Biotop Vote DiggitCamara I would prefer to still lynch Hooker Chemical based on the theory I outlined early in the Day, but I don’t want to end the day with a one off vote. I think the theory against Diggit is pretty decent with a lot of evidence in his post history to back it up. I looked over the reasons why his voters voted for him and they all seem to agree that he focuses too much on voting for third parties based on a WOW posted by Total Lost on Night Three. The case against Boozahol Squid is less coherent, with people voting for him for different reasons, including a “meh” vote by Meeko. I think the case has merit, but the case for Diggit is stronger. I wouldn’t mind a second lynch, but that doesn’t seem possible with three hours to go. We would need at least 14 votes for both Diggit and Boozahol and right now the count is 11-8. That means we need nine more votes on both of them with the next three hours. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/522 "2017-02-05T17:28:25Z")
Lol, Paul! ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/523 "2017-02-05T17:38:44Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > We would need at least 14 votes for both Diggit and Boozahol and right now the count is 11-8. That means we need nine more votes on both of them with the next three hours. Eh. I still like the Biotop theory. Finding scum is going to need to rely on more subtle clues than players ‘acting scummy.’ Here is one of the nine needed: **unvote Biotop** **vote Squid** reason: double lynch is better. ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/524 "2017-02-05T17:46:16Z")
**Unvote Hal Briston** **Vote Boozaholic Squid** Doing my part for a double-lynch. It’s still possible, guys. Hal is still smelly, though. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/525 "2017-02-05T17:47:18Z")
\*\*unvote: Paul vote: BoozySquid \*\* Angel thought he was scum. I liked Ender’s case on him. And it seems like he’s gone defensive today after his Angel is dead therefore ProfP is scum logic leap. He made an easy OMGUS vote on Meeko and now a self-preservation vote on Diggit. He looks like scum who doesn’t want to say too much lest they give their teammates away. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/526 "2017-02-05T17:53:55Z")
And we are tied! 11-11. We need just six more votes for a double lynch. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/527 "2017-02-05T18:00:24Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > Ugh…illness has swept through the Briston household leaving my up to my elbows in tissues. So much of the time I’d like to spend reading was spent wiping kid noses (although a quick read-through shows worse things around here – hope all is going better by you, **MHaye** ). > > Now then… > > I’m not about to go throwing around an OMGUS vote – I’m just going to point out that I’m garnering votes for saying “voting for a known town player is a bad thing”. You can try and twist and any way you like, but the only thing we have here are facts: **PlumPudding** and **CTTDSWHCookies** voted for **Idle** after he showed himself to be town, and these two feel pointing that out is a bad thing. > > Still need to read more (in the morning) before I decide how I’m voting, but just putting it out there for the record. If/when I’m ever taken out, you’ve very likely got a some anti-town element named above. How are you so certain they even clicked the link and saw the screenshot? I didn’t. At that point I didn’t care. Beyond that though, even if they did see it, posting a screenshot of your PM is beyond the pale and he double deserved to be voted off the island at that point. If you think their votes for him are scummy, then what about all the people who didn’t UNVOTE him after he posted it? Aren’t we all scummy too by your logic? You are trying to build a case where none exists (and classifying my and Pudding’s votes out of context) which is what scum have to do. But no one else seems to think you are the scummiest person today, so I will **unvote Hal Briston** for today. A one-off vote isn’t going to do any good, but of the three leaders I am undecided as to which is the scummiest. They all smell scummy to me. I’m going to re-read the cases and vote by EoD. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/528 "2017-02-05T18:05:03Z")
Man, Story is going to be PISSED if you all keep changing your minds about stuff for the next two hours! Glad he volunteered to end the Day. 🆒 (I’m totally ok with you changing your minds. I’ll post another vote count in a half hour or so. I got some more ads I need to get out anyway.) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/529 "2017-02-05T18:51:19Z")
I am sorry that the flu and recovery has kept me out of participation this week. **Vote Diggit** ---
**Author:** ![Cygnus42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Cygnus42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cygnus42)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/530 "2017-02-05T18:51:43Z")
Much busier weekend than expected… most of the day at a tournament yesterday, and various chores to do today before the Super Bowl gets here. Anyway… of the lynch leaders, I’m still most suspicious of **Prof P.** However, he’s slipped firmly into 3rd place, and apparently safe for today (for the lynch anyway, who knows about other killin’ effects). I think we currently have a tie right now, and we’ve been constantly told that ties are bad, so a vote for Prof certainly wouldn’t make that any better. So, I’ll go with: \*\* vote DiggitCamara\*\* I do get a more scummy vibe from him, and can follow that case a little better. The case against \*\*Boozahol \*\*seems to rely a bit on a personal meltdown, which may not be the best indicator. Ideally, we’d get enough votes on both for the double-lynch - guess we’ll see with an hour to go. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/531 "2017-02-05T18:59:11Z")
**DAILY VOTE COUNT** _As a quick reminder - there are no powers, hidden or open, that can affect the vote count. If you see an apparent discrepancy, it’s the result of moderator error_ **DiggitCamara (13)** Paulwhoisaghost (20), Totallost (172), GuiriEnEspana (263), Koldanar (376), BillMC (422), Hooker Chemical (262), Prof. Pepperwinkle (511), raventhief (516), Boozy (518), Hoopy Frood (519), Lakai (521), Sunny Daze (529), Cygnus42 (530) **Boozahol Squid (11)** Captain Klutz (45), EnderW24 (102), Biotop (180), snfaulkner (192), DiggitCamera (288), Meeko (302), Hawkeyeop (320), Inner Stickler (346), Sachertorte (523)Plumpudding (524), TexCat (525) **Prof. Pepperwinkle (7)** Pleonast (121), Nanook (152), bufftabby (197), Zeriel (353), MHaye (417), sinjin (435), Lightfoot (473) \*\*Hal Briston (1) \*\* Plumpudding (298) **Khameleon (1)** Johnny Bravo (26) * * * _This post count brought to you by the fine folks at Paulwhoisaghost’s Mafia Emporium! Numbers aren’t your thing? No problem, why not try out some scum detecting jewelry? Angel’s scum detecting mood ring will reveal your suspects alignment in no time. Simply put on the ring and think about how you feel about any suspect and the ring changes color to reveal their alignment!_\* Red indicates scum, blue indicates town. And it’s stylish too! All this and more at Paulwhoisaghost’s Mafia Emporium. Your one stop mafia tool shop! (part 3 of a series) \*\* Color doesn’t reveal true alignment, just how you feel about the suspect. \* \*\*ToDay, the top vote getter will die of course. The second vote getter will die if he/she reaches 14 votes. Never mind about the tie thing, Diggit is in the lead. Get both vote leaders to 14 votes or more and you get two for the price of one! The Day will end on Sunday at 3:00 Eastern. [Here is a countdown to that time.](https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/election?iso=20170205T15&p0=77&font=cursive)\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/532 "2017-02-05T19:02:34Z")
Crygus? ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/533 "2017-02-05T19:04:11Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Crygus? Sure, make fun of the dyslexic mod trying to deal with y’alls crazy names.😛 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/534 "2017-02-05T19:05:54Z")
unvote **Vote DiggitCamara** I’m afraid I don’t have much more than a “me too” to go with this, but the primary reason I’m doing this vote is to put Diggit at 14. This means that town can go for a double lynch today - I’m fine with that. I still think Khameleon is scummy, but she can wait for another Day. ---
**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/535 "2017-02-05T19:06:29Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > **DAILY VOTE COUNT** > _As a quick reminder - there are no powers, hidden or open, that can affect the vote count. If you see an apparent discrepancy, it’s the result of moderator error_ > > **DiggitCamara (13)** > Paulwhoisaghost (20), Totallost (172), GuiriEnEspana (263), Koldanar (376), BillMC (422), Hooker Chemical (262), Prof. Pepperwinkle (511), raventhief (516), Boozy (518), Hoopy Frood (519), Lakai (521), Sunny Daze (529), Cygnus42 (530) > > **Boozahol Squid (11)** > Captain Klutz (45), EnderW24 (102), Biotop (180), snfaulkner (192), DiggitCamera (288), Meeko (302), Hawkeyeop (320), Inner Stickler (346), Sachertorte (523)Plumpudding (524), TexCat (525) > > **Prof. Pepperwinkle (7)** > Pleonast (121), Nanook (152), bufftabby (197), Zeriel (353), MHaye (417), sinjin (435), Lightfoot (473) > > \*\*Hal Briston (1) \*\* > Plumpudding (298) > > **Khameleon (1)** > Johnny Bravo (26) > > * * * > > _This post count brought to you by the fine folks at Paulwhoisaghost’s Mafia Emporium! > Numbers aren’t your thing? No problem, why not try out some scum detecting jewelry? Angel’s scum detecting mood ring will reveal your suspects alignment in no time. Simply put on the ring and think about how you feel about any suspect and the ring changes color to reveal their alignment!_\* Red indicates scum, blue indicates town. And it’s stylish too! > > All this and more at Paulwhoisaghost’s Mafia Emporium. Your one stop mafia tool shop! (part 3 of a series) > > \*\* Color doesn’t reveal true alignment, just how you feel about the suspect. > \* > > \*\*ToDay, the top vote getter will die of course. The second vote getter will die if he/she reaches 14 votes. > > Never mind about the tie thing, Diggit is in the lead. Get both vote leaders to 14 votes or more and you get two for the price of one! > > The Day will end on Sunday at 3:00 Eastern. > > [Here is a countdown to that time.](https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/election?iso=20170205T15&p0=77&font=cursive)\*\* I’m still most suspicious of **Prof** , but I’m willing to put that 14th vote on **diggit camara** for maximum information to be yielded. \*\*unvote vote diggitcamara\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/536 "2017-02-05T19:09:42Z")
Diggit - 15 Boozy - 11 Prof. P - 6 ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/537 "2017-02-05T19:14:15Z")
Diggit has passed the threshold. Get the second place vote getter to 14 and we have a double lynch today and toDay! The suspense is terrible; I hope it lasts. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/538 "2017-02-05T19:18:02Z")
> [@bufftabby](#): > > I’m still most suspicious of **Prof** , but I’m willing to put that 14th vote on **diggit camara** for maximum information to be yielded. You’re the 15th. Go ahead and switch if you like. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/539 "2017-02-05T19:19:05Z")
Er, I for some reason brainfarted Prof P into second place. My post makes more sense in that reality. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/540 "2017-02-05T19:24:29Z")
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