# Mafia Reunion Day 4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 31, 2017, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699 "2017-01-31T21:14:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 413
**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2017, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/413 "2017-02-04T07:17:29Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Holy cow MHaye. I’m so sorry to hear this. Best wishes and I hope the test was bad. Oh man. I hope it doesn’t come across as flippant to wish you good luck **MHaye**. I’ve had life changing medical test results turn out to be incorrect, and it’s rough, but better than the alternative. > [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > > [@Pleonast](#): > > > > > [@Hoopy\_Frood](#): > > > > > > > [@TexCat](#): > > > > > > > > When we can’t seem to tell the difference between scum and town, how do you propose we tell the difference between mafia and wolves? I just don’t see the point in discussing it, and can’t imagine why you do. > > > > > > As time goes on and we get more info, we likely will begin to tell the difference between mafia and wolves, through voting patterns, interactions, and detective reveals. There probably will come a time where it’s going to matter from which side we choose to lynch. Especially because the only thing we seem to have right now is the lynch if the vig is truly leashed. > > > > > > Since when is discussing long term plans a bad thing? Am I supposed to have waited until later in this game to bring it up? What if I’m dead before then? What time do you think it should be brought up? > > > > > > Or do you think it’s a bad idea to discuss this in general? If so, why? > > > > > > You too, **Pleonast**. Since you agree with her, why do you think it’s so bad? > > > > It’s bad because we have to lynch them all. Maybe I’m missing a case, but in any situation where it matters what flavor of Scum we lynch, Town will no longer be a majority of players. So Scum will control the lynch at that point, even if they haven’t won yet. That is, we will have lost, even if the game is not ended. I don’t fancy picking winners between the two factions. > > > > While there’s nothing inherently wrong with discussing end game scenarios, we’d do better by lynching any Scum at all rather than discerning if they’re the better flavor. > > I disagree. First blood has been spilled. Wolves need to even the score and mafia will want to retain their lead. If a wolf kill or a lynch takes out a mafia, they are going to want to take out a wolf. **As long as they are hunting each other, it would behoove town to try to strike a balance that maintains their bloodlust for each other.** Right now, all mafia has to do to win is keep killing whomever they want. Wolves now need to kill 3 mafia in addition to the overall population goal. Don’t you think that demands that they change strategies? **And if they are, then shouldn’t town?** [bolding mine] I had to follow the quote trail to figure out where you were coming from (and it goes back even further). How exactly do you think town should change strategies? Sure, the wolves can start trying to hunt mafia specifically, but they know who is on their team. They can hunt amongst the rest of the pool for true scummy behavior and vote or kill for it instead of just taking the expedient option. Town, on the other hand, has a much harder time differentiating between just overall scummy behavior and specific wolf or mafia behavior. As **Pleo** pointed out, are you talking about endgame or now? Endgame can come later, and I don’t see a reason to do anything other than hunting “scum” now. We can use patterns and interactions that point to one team or the other for clues, but to concentrate on one scum team in particular might exclude a player more likely to be scum because they don’t match the pattern. It’s a numbers game, and all scum count against us. > [@TexCat](#): > > > [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > > > I disagree. First blood has been spilled. Wolves need to even the score and mafia will want to retain their lead. If a wolf kill or a lynch takes out a mafia, they are going to want to take out a wolf. As long as they are hunting each other, it would behoove town to try to strike a balance that maintains their bloodlust for each other. Right now, all mafia has to do to win is keep killing whomever they want. Wolves now need to kill 3 mafia in addition to the overall population goal. Don’t you think that demands that they change strategies? And if they are, then shouldn’t town? > > What on earth makes you think that the wolves haven’t been hunting mafia from the get go? If they could lead a lynch on a mafia, it would increase their town cred. **Plus a dead body is just a dead body to them.** I don’t see any change in their strategy. [bolding mine] This seems contradictory. If a dead body is a dead body, why put much effort into hunting mafia? This post pings me. It is accusatory, but I don’t understand how **TexCat** is getting from point a to b. I have issues with **paul’s** post, but the fact that the wolves might change strategy based on two of their team getting killed seems obvious, so I think you are reading his post very differently than I am. I read it and thought, “how are you saying town should change their game?” It looks like you read it and thought, “how are you saying scum should change?” See the difference? **FOS TexCat**. Something doesn’t feel right with you. I want to review the lynch leaders, but I think you just jumped in front of them. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699)._