# Mafia Reunion Day 5 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [February 7, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271 "2017-02-07T20:22:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/421 "2017-02-12T06:35:38Z")
\*\* SNF \*\* you are usually good for a late night romp - where be you? ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/422 "2017-02-12T06:38:55Z")
I am 1/2 loaded on self accomplishment ( we got the house ready for hubby’s return -with a walker) and there was beer ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/423 "2017-02-12T07:10:15Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > This is confusing to me. It sounds like an explanation for voting Prof P toDay, but it doesn’t explain your D4 vote. Pleo was still alive D4. Your reasoning for you D4 vote was > > How can Pleo’s reveal be the missing gap between not understanding and being happy with the case when Pleo was still alive? > > Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk Honestly? Fuck if I remember. Now I’m going to have to go back over day 4 to figure out what the hell I thought made sense. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/424 "2017-02-12T07:11:12Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > \*\* SNF \*\* you are usually good for a late night romp - where be you? Sorry. was with wifey for dinner and a show. Early anniversary thing (15th is the actual day). I’ll try and put some thoughts down and answer some questions before bed though. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/425 "2017-02-12T08:04:10Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Sorry. was with wifey for dinner and a show. Early anniversary thing (15th is the actual day). I’ll try and put some thoughts down and answer some questions before bed though. rock star with the wifey thing- I was just looking for some banter ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/426 "2017-02-12T08:45:15Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > **Snfaulkner** , we have both played a lot of games with **Professor Pepperwinkle**. I don’t understand what you think \*\*PP \*\*would be doing differently in this game if he was Scum. Indeed, this seems quite like his Scum game to me. > > Other than his bringing up the hammer on Day 1, \*\*PP \*\* is playing very conservatively, which was a Scum tell of his before. He has trouble making up false cases as Scum, whereas when he is Town he generally tries. > > So why do you have a Town lean on him? I admit my town lean of prof isn’t nearly as strong it was the other Day. But, despite others saying it doesn’t happen, I still feel like he hasn’t been conferring with anyone before posting. I know it happens, at least in a general way, since I do it when scum. I would have liked to have read his leans n final thoughts before bed, since I probably won’t be around for EoD. But it’s obvious that lynching him won’t require my vote, barring crazy shenanigans. If he flips town, I’ll not have that terrible feeling I get when I murder a fellow townie. If he flips scum, I understand I’ll look pretty bad. But as town, I welcome the scrutiny. You can be sure scum will see me as easy target to build shitty cases on toMorrow, so if I do end up getting lynched, town will have good leads. Hopefully. ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/427 "2017-02-12T08:53:42Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > I tend to confuse the K’s and the P’s but this made me go back and check, you added a disclaimer and were noticeably uncomfortable posting external links to defend Colby however either that’s entirely water under the bridge or now you have no issue using external links as (valid) evidence against Prof.P.? I note that Bio is very much in favor of LtL as a strategy to encourage activity - is that no longer the case? It’s evidence of him misrepresenting his reasons for “abandoning” LtL on Giraffe, nothing more. It’s kinda difficult getting evidence for that from somewhere else than Giraffe. He’s been questioned on this several times already and I feel he’s been dodging, so I felt compelled to dig out the posts. I still haven’t gotten an answer for why he felt it necessary to add reasons for why he abandoned LtL on Giraffe, reasons that were never mentioned at the time. Somehow those reasons make LtL more viable here, I have no clue as to why, but allright, fine, I don’t care. Misrepping yourself I do care about. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/428 "2017-02-12T09:06:16Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > rock star with the wifey thing- I was just looking for some banter We chased rabbit butts. We saw an Alice in Wonderland play. Wifey is a loony fanatic of all things Alice. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/429 "2017-02-12T12:41:35Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > \*\* Guiri\*\* in response to “\*What does it suggest to you? Time for a claim? Or just keeping your records up to date?” > \* > I have no intention of asking any Town power to claim at this time > > I compiled that data to see what was left out there.I thought if we knew what we are up against it \* could \* help? > our living roles know who/how they can influence o. it might help them aim. Fair enough, but to know who we’re up against, you wouldn’t need to list the town roles, unless you have a cunning plan on how they can be used. It pings. > [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > Notice how he chose to adapt the words to be mafia themed… I suspected that he was trying to hint at his role. Maybe he forgot he already claimed VT, or maybe he was hoping everyone else would forget. Or maybe he just thought it sounded good. Yeah, I guess it’s his closing speech, but there’s no reason for town to sow confusion, or hint at another role, I think I’m leaning back to him being some sort of non-town. > [@HookerChemical](#): > > Wha? I have a few candidates for Batman, but masons and “fellow cultists?” Well, there’s the rub, why do you have a few candidates for Batman - exactly what do you hope to achieve? You say that Nanook is not a mason or wolf - why mention the mason bit? You list out a bunch of players who are either not, indicatively, or suggestively wolves, but not a single mafia lean, and not a single mention of potential or not cultists - seems like a very specific focus on votes from a very specific lens. > [@snfaulkner](#): > > \*Too \* willing? > > Like I said, I kinda think he’s town. When I looked at the vote record, pleo’s votes made it seem like he had an investigation. Then others (not sure who exactly, maybe hooker? But several ppl. I’m on my phone and lazy) did a more in depth analysis that I admit I didn’t do myself, and it nurtured and cultivated the doubt and unease I had for my vote. Here’s your original vote: > [@snfaulkner](#): > > I can’t ignore Pleonast’s double-double voting of Prof. Which is why I’m voting for him. And then your unvote references other players’ experience with him: > [@snfaulkner](#): > > Ok, so I still kinda/sorta/maybe think Prof is town from what I know of Prof from past games. I have never played a game with Pleo before, but his vote-unvote-voting of Prof twice then flip as investigator really screams that he did indeed investigate Prof. If you guys, with previous experience with Pleo, are saying that Pleo probably didn’t, then that makes my vote on Prof stupid. > > Unvote Prof. Pepperwinkle > > I do understand why people would find him scummy regardless of the Pleo predicament. Hell, I might even go back to Prof if his “last stand” is rubbish. But for now… You quote several posts: Texcat and Plumpudding say THEY would never have investigated Prof. P, sache says his personal take is that there was no investigation but it’s plausible, and Lightfoot argues the opposite? So who exactly convinced you to unvote? I note that you then hold onto the possiblity to revote someone you kinda think is town if his lean list is weak - honestly, how do you expect Prof.P.'s lean list to be after his play this entire game? > [@Plumpudding](#): > > It’s evidence of him misrepresenting his reasons for “abandoning” LtL on Giraffe, nothing more. It’s kinda difficult getting evidence for that from somewhere else than Giraffe. He’s been questioned on this several times already and I feel he’s been dodging, so I felt compelled to dig out the posts. I still haven’t gotten an answer for why he felt it necessary to add reasons for why he abandoned LtL on Giraffe, reasons that were never mentioned at the time. Somehow those reasons make LtL more viable here, I have no clue as to why, but allright, fine, I don’t care. Misrepping yourself I do care about. You misread me, I see the evidence, it’s the change from earlier, when you were reluctant to link to external sites to bring evidence about Colby and even added a disclaimer, but now you have no qualms about bringing evidence about Prof.P., a big change. And I did look up Total again, this was the exchange regarding Boozy’s slip: > [@Mafia Reunion - Day One](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/88): > > > [@Mafia Reunion - Day One](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/57): > > > > > [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/415): > > > > > > Did the Mods Clarify this or did I miss something. Do the Scum get their own boards? They must if they’re coordinating who to kill and all, or did I miss something here?[/COLOR] > > > > > > -Are you assuming that there are no Scum Boards? 😕 Did Mafia change really that much since I’ve been gone? > > > > “I can’t possibly be scum, I don’t even know if they have their own board”. I’ve seen scum try this tactic, although not quite this blatant. > > > > **Vote ToeJam** > > > > > [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/229): > > > > > > So this made me think of what’s going on in the background, and why we wouldn’t be able to start yet. The only thing I can think of is setting up scum/3rd Party boards. I’m not very confident that I’ll get an answer to this, but I can’t see how it can hurt to ask if the Wolves and Mob are allowed to conspire before the game start. > > > > > > \*\* Do the Scum get to canoodle on Night Zero? \*\* > > > > This one was not as bad, but **FOS Boozahol Squid** > > I was thinking rather the same. And that is why I’d like others with their eyes on **Squid** to at least comment on **ToeJam**. As I think what they did was roughly the same mechanism. Only **ToeJam** gave me the biggest of the pings too. > > Seemed a bit too quick to sound townie. > > Looked a bit to me like some players just seemed to ignore it - after having called **Squid** on it. But that might be because those players didn’t return yet. So I would very much like to hear, if they didn’t see similarities in the actions or if they have others views on this matter than mine. > [@Mafia Reunion - Day One](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/138): > > > [@Mafia Reunion - Day One](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/124): > > > > So **Sunny Daze** , **Ullz** - I can’t really defend myself against accusations of “too quick to sound townie” or “he posts a lot and tries to sound Townie”. I would argue that THAT is my playstyle, and regardless of if I’m Town or Scum, I would take excess measures to do it for consistencies sake. > > I would also argue that I tend to play lazier when I’m Town vs. when I’m scum, and I know the argument, “I’m really really good at playing scum” isn’t a great one- but that’s my retort to **Satch**. You pointed out on N0, I’m being a bit deferential to the players- well, it’s been a while since I’ve been on the Dope, and I know my playstyle… can be offputting. I guess I am slightly intimidated in returning to Mafia, and knowing that my excess posting can quickly take over. My goal is to avoid that (and I am no longer the mafia player of old- I simply cannot spend hours tracking stuff anymore, but rather an hour or two every few days checking in), hence the no notes and all comment. > > Actually you and Squid only left me with a ping and a tingling feeling. > > What made me wonder was, why IMO the same set of actions gave different RE-actions. So while I’d be willing to let other topics take over toDay, I will keep wondering about it - until I get a reasonable answer like I did from NormalP and Guiri-the Spanish. From the biggest of pings to a tingling feeling, once the pressure was off Boozy? Drain did a WoW on Total on D2, and I was pinged by her stirring the pot and there are quite a few interactions with or related to the known wolves: 1. Not voting Colby for the slip, alongside Bill - as Drain pointed out 2. Encouraging Boozy voters to look at ToeJam for similar behavior, then backing off from both cases entirely 3. The whole Septimus soft claim thing 4. Comments on her own playstyle but is unwilling to consider meta for other players 5. Drop in participation as noted by Drain post Septimus claim, got too much attention to early 6. D3 Follows Paul’s vote on Prof.P., avoids Squid (#871) 7. D4 vote on Diggit based partially on his vote on Thing Fish based on a list of leans with no info, her double down in #292 for his vote on Boozy 8. Her D4#169 to Paul about Prof.P being mafia and wolves wanting to kill him I’d be happy voting for any of you guys: Total, Snfaulkner, HookerChemical, Lightfoot, & Plumpudding but I realise it’s yet another one off. **Vote Total** Of the lynch contenders I’ve discussed Prof. P., don’t think Paul is scum, think sache can wait, don’t support the case on Johnny, am on the other side of the votes by SNF and Hooker, so that leaves TexCat - next to review. ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/430 "2017-02-12T13:19:39Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > You misread me, I see the evidence, it’s the change from earlier, when you were reluctant to link to external sites to bring evidence about Colby and even added a disclaimer, but now you have no qualms about bringing evidence about Prof.P., a big change. No I didn’t misread you, and I answered your question. ---
**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/431 "2017-02-12T15:18:21Z")
Ugh. I did not get any time this weekend to finish any analysis. **Vote professor p** I trust pleo. He had to be telling us something, voting two days in a row. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/432 "2017-02-12T15:41:40Z")
So, yes, my last post was a paraphrasing of Tom Joad’s speech at the end of Grapes of Wrath. It was his **goodbye** speech, and that’s the only relevance. No claim for me except Vanilla Town. As I promised, here’s my leans with only a few hours to go: Paul is Town. He’s very, very, very Town. No Scum needs to put in so much work in this game, nor attempt to micromanage the conversation so completely. He’s Town. Biotop is Town. I wasn’t at all sure until toDay, but toDay he came up with The Plan. When Biotop comes up with The Plan, it’s a pretty good bet he’s Town. The Plan is always a great notion, but falls down because it requires Town to work together. We don’t do that so well. Johnny Bravo – lean heavily to Town, and I agree with all or nearly all of what he’s said toDay. Listen to this guy. Look at the low count posters. Don’t trust the claimed 3P’s (sachertorte and Crys). My gut says they are hostile. Inner Stickler & Koldanar – I’m guessing they are also hostile 3P’s for their attempts to attack Johnny Bravo. Plumpudding – leaning Town. He grabs a case with both hands and his teeth and won’t let go. Sorry if my nostalgic turn to LtL has caused you grief, my friend. Raventhief – leaning Town, but no real proof why. I’ve just got a braincrush on her. TexCat, snfaulkner, Hooker and Guiri – seemingly Town but there’s almost certainly a Mafioso (or two) in there. My reasoning is this: it has been bruited about that, if I am Scum (I’m not) then I am not Wolf, but Mafia. Mafia knows I’m not Mafia, hence it advances one’s position as Town to be proven correct when I flip Town. If they are all Mafia, this game’s over. Sinjin, Cookies, Cygnus, Hoopy, Nanook, Zeriel, bufftabby and Total – I confess, I have no idea; neutral lean. LightFoot – really happy to hear about your hubby. Great news! LightFoot has a Scum tell: she rarely votes to lynch me when Scum. So, Town lean. MHaye – Scum lean, but I’ll be keeping you in my thoughts and prayers. Meeko – neutral lean; glad I could help; IIRC, he’s been in the process of moving. In danger of ModKill. Captain Klutz, Khameleon, Hawkeyeop – general Scum lean. Lakai, Ender, Hal Briston, nesta, Scathach – Scum lean mainly for very low posting; some may be ModKilled. So, what else? Oh, yeah, Town’s too easily distracted by the easy vote. Brewha’s vote for lying, Idle’s vote for being irritating, the vote on me for Pleonast’s unfortunate votes on me before dying, all these caused discussion on scum-hunting to be quelled. I know I’m bad at scum-hunting, but that doesn’t mean everyone else gets a pass. So, happy trails to you until we meet again, Happy trails to you, keep smilin’ until then. Who cares about the clouds when we’re together? Just sing a song and bring the sunny weather. Happy trails to you, 'til we meet again. ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/433 "2017-02-12T16:59:06Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > . > > So, happy trails to you until we meet again, > Happy trails to you, keep smilin’ until then. > Who cares about the clouds when we’re together? > Just sing a song and bring the sunny weather. > > Happy trails to you, 'til we meet again. Roy Rogers and Dale Evans 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/434 "2017-02-12T17:09:01Z")
\*\*\*\* Vote Count\*\* ok there might be one more, but it’s unlikely **Professor P. (14)** Hawkeyeop(6), paulwhoisaghost(19), Lakai(50), bufftabby(57), sinjin(104), biotop(129), captainklutz(138), cometothedarkside(192), khameleon(201), mhaye(224), lightfoot(230), Cygnus42 (353), Nanook (395), koldanar (431) \*\*Texcat(2) \*\* Plumpudding(38), Hoopy(229) \*\*Nanook(2) \*\* sachertorte(225), Hooker Chemical (253) \*\*Paulwhoisaghost(1) \*\* Texcat(22) **Khameleon(1)** snfaulkner(231) **Sachertorte (1)** Johnny Bravo (296) **Johnny Bravo (1)** Inner Stickler (314) ## **Total Lost(1)** Guiri (429) _this vote count brought to you by the league of dead people for ambiguous messaging_ \*\*“And I despise those who would define me, and thereby dismiss me" –angel \*\* _The Lod P. Fam - - bringing you cryptic messages from beyond the grave since 2008_ Day ends on Sunday, February 12 , at 3:00 Right now Prof P will die unless crazy stuff happens. No secondary lynches toDay. Our countdown clock seems to be broken right now, but there are only a couple hours left. Some of you are fixing to die by mod kill at Day break so…post em if you got em. Remember, no subs anymore. Just death. Story is bringing the thunder with end of Day color. Be there or be square. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/435 "2017-02-12T17:38:51Z")
We got 5 people fixin to be mod killed. If anyone knows these people outside of the game you have permission to contact them and let them know that they have until Tuesday to post something or they are modkilled and automatically lose. [Aint that a kick in the head?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zBszbgkH8g) ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/436 "2017-02-12T17:54:44Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > We got 5 people fixin to be mod killed. > > If anyone knows these people outside of the game you have permission to contact them and let them know that they have until Tuesday to post something or they are modkilled and automatically lose. > > [Aint that a kick in the head?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zBszbgkH8g) They’ve had a whole week to post “Hi, super busy, so sorry guys.” Giving them 2 more days seems like prolonging the inevitable. But it’s your game. Who are the 5? Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/437 "2017-02-12T18:02:59Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > They’ve had a whole week to post “Hi, super busy, so sorry guys.” Giving them 2 more days seems like prolonging the inevitable. But it’s your game. > > Who are the 5? > > Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk Policy has always been that Mod kills happen at Dawn. This is more formal warning territory than anything. Total Lost Nesta Scathach Enderw And Meeko Are all deficient in their posting responsibilities. ---
**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/438 "2017-02-12T18:03:21Z")
I appoligize for my lack of particiapation. I thought I knew what I was getting into, but I’ve had a hard time keeping up, and because I haven’t had a good understanding of the game I haven’t been partipcating. Sorry. Yesterday I had a strong ping from **TexCat** , so I’ve spent the last week going through her (I hope the pronoun is correct) posts. I only made it through Day 2, but here we are at the end of Day, so I figure I should post what I have. WoW through D2. I don’t know how you all do a WoW in a few hours… I think I’m doing it wrong. Maybe because I keep getting distrated by the context, but I think I have a better understanding of what was going on in the game after looking into **TexCat’s** interaction during the first two days. **Day 1** [D1#29](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19904293&postcount=29)Votes **Normal Phase** “Oh heck, this is as good a starting vote as any.” [D1#31](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19904307&postcount=31)Clarifies voted **Normal** for editing. “I don’t approve of editing.” [D1#91](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19904878&postcount=91)Votes **Colby11**. Points out his saying “the other team” when talking death color. [D1#187](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19906347&postcount=187) “@Hooker. Only 1 Patsy. And she should claim.” [D1#315](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19908882&postcount=315)Quotes confirming opinions on **Colby** , and finishes with “Is Colby trying to lurk this away?” [D1#359](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19909668&postcount=359)About using logged in meta information: “I refuse to even look at or consider this kind of evidence.” [D1#452](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19911002&postcount=452)To **Angel** about her not reading the rules. “In fact, there’s not much I wouldn’t put past a scum!Angel to do.” [D1#510](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19912068&postcount=510)Fluff as far as I can tell. To **septimuis** about **Meeko’s** acronyms. [D1#586](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19913167&postcount=586)Says **Angel** could have just read the rules. [D1#624](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19913601&postcount=624)Quotes Angel letting people know she’s Archeangel on Giraffe, to @Guiri [D1#625](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19913609&postcount=625)Nevermind, that post was just above. [D1#713](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19915719&postcount=713)Confused by day and night stuff. Is Septimus deciding who to protect right now? [D1#759](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19916386&postcount=759)Haven’t heard much from Colby, which bothers her. [D1#760](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19916393&postcount=760)Reply to Scathach voting for her for pointing out Colby’s scum slip since TexCat knows Colby’s tendancy to get lynched. Justifies vote as a vote on scum rather than Angel’s anti-town play or for lurkers. [D1#765](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19916487&postcount=765)Back to Scathach, says if they are more suspicious of something else perhaps they should vote there. Misunderstands that the “shitty D1 vote” comment wasn’t referring to her. [D1#788](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19916702&postcount=788)Joking about her reason for Colby are better than Lakai breating weird. [D1#865](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19917826&postcount=865)Asks “Who is the smart ass wolf?” in repsonse to “Town the other White Meat” vote count ad. [D1#874](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19917901&postcount=874)Advocates the Patsy claim so scum can’t claim it, and so investigators don’t waste an investigation. [D1#947](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19919279&postcount=947)Claims not 3rd party. Reafirms vote on Colby for misrepresenting Brewha’s post. [D1#1269](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19923530&postcount=1269)Not sure what conclusisions can be reached based on Lakai lynch. Thought Lakai looked scummy, but left vote on Colby who still looks scummy. [D1#1276](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19923587&postcount=1276)Watcher info would be helpful now, and hopes they are leaving crumbs. [D1#1315](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19924202&postcount=1315)Rembembers “burby” coming from Peeker. **Day 2** [D2#42](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19928442&postcount=42)Votecount with unvotes. [D2#48](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19928586&postcount=48)Reply to Sunny Daze, who lamented the suspicion on Colby and his subsequent night kill. Says “Or perhaps Colby should defend himself, quit lurking, and do some scum hunting.” Worried about the quick bandwagon on ToJam and asks someone to summarize the case on him. [D2#88](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19929473&postcount=88)Defends Colby suspicion, saying Colby screws up as both town and scum, and that he tried to lurk it off, and his vote for Brewha was bad. Says jsgoddess calling a policy vote is just wrong. [D2#133](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19930227&postcount=133)Misunderstood jsgoddess that the policy vote comment was about the vote on Normal Phase. Says addressed how Colby was scummy in _in this game_. [D2#179](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19931019&postcount=179)Comments on the BillMc case and votes him. [D2#224](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19932047&postcount=224)Asks Brewha if his switch PM says anything about other people with switches. [D2#232](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19932209&postcount=232)Quotes mod info about switches and says it doesn’t match Brewha’s claim, due to toggles. Aks Brewha to post switch PM. [D2#301](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19932995&postcount=301)Batman should try to hit scum rather than anyone he thought was town. Not inclined to think Brewha is scum. [D2#304](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19933037&postcount=304)NETA: Number one rule of gun safety: Always point the muzzle in a safe direction; never point a firearm at anyone or anything you don’t want to shoot. [D2#542](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19935976&postcount=542)Clarifies jsgoddess misunderstanding on policy vote. Somewhat anti multilynch since usually successive lynches have more information. [D2#544](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19936016&postcount=544)"Rovian" new favorite word. [D2#564](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19936251&postcount=564)Discusses Brewha claim with jsgoddess, “I can’t see a scum motivation for Brewha lying here.” Not against second lynch, it’s just not as as lynches on succsesive Days. [D2#569](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19936304&postcount=569)Asks Crys what the investigation results look like. [D2#605](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19936764&postcount=605)Points out that Crys is claiming non-exclusive wincon. [D2#612](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19936815&postcount=612)Asks that since Crys only gets LUTHA/non-LUTHA results, why did Crys think she could sort out Brewha. [D2#633](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19936933&postcount=633)Unvotes BillMc, votes snfaulkner for editing, accusing him of “super secret cultist message to Crys”. [D2#639](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19936974&postcount=639)Votes Crys for being a cultist. [D2#654](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19937088&postcount=654)Joke to mods: looking forward to another YouTube clip. [D2#665](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19937191&postcount=665)Vote count. [D2#670](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19937213&postcount=670)Vote correction. [D2#725](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19937876&postcount=725)Thinks Crys is hiding something. Why hasn’t a fellow cultist stepped up to verify Crys? Happy with Crys vote and perfect use of second lynch. [D2#810](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19938946&postcount=810)Correcting vote count. [D2#968](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19940185&postcount=968)Asks Johny Bravo what the benifit of lynching Sachertorte over Crys is? Reconsidering Crys vote, not sure if leaving 3rd parties alive is a good thing. [D2#980](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19940251&postcount=980)Vote count correction. [D2#986](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19940365&postcount=986)Explains Brewha switch claim ,“Brewha knew that was not true.” [D2#1313](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19946239&postcount=1313)Cautions against assuming those with the same views are on your team. Yesterday I was pinged hard by her: > [@Mafia Reunion Day 4](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/413): > > > [@Mafia Reunion Day 4](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/394): > > > > > [@Mafia Reunion Day 4](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/388): > > > > > > I disagree. First blood has been spilled. Wolves need to even the score and mafia will want to retain their lead. If a wolf kill or a lynch takes out a mafia, they are going to want to take out a wolf. As long as they are hunting each other, it would behoove town to try to strike a balance that maintains their bloodlust for each other. Right now, all mafia has to do to win is keep killing whomever they want. Wolves now need to kill 3 mafia in addition to the overall population goal. Don’t you think that demands that they change strategies? And if they are, then shouldn’t town? > > > > What on earth makes you think that the wolves haven’t been hunting mafia from the get go? If they could lead a lynch on a mafia, it would increase their town cred. Plus a dead body is just a dead body to them. I don’t see any change in their strategy. > > This seems contradictory. If a dead body is a dead body, why put much effort into hunting mafia? This post pings me. It is accusatory, but I don’t understand how **TexCat** is getting from point a to b. I have issues with **paul’s** post, but the fact that the wolves might change strategy based on two of their team getting killed seems obvious, so I think you are reading his post very differently than I am. I read it and thought, “how are you saying town should change their game?” It looks like you read it and thought, “how are you saying scum should change?” See the difference? > > **FOS TexCat**. Something doesn’t feel right with you. I want to review the lynch leaders, but I think you just jumped in front of them. My impressions of her D1 play is that she had a lot of short posts, many casting suspicions one way or another, but never delving into anything. She was the first to call out **Colby’s** “slip”, which would normally be a null tell, but it was pointed out that she knew **Colby’s** tendancy to post things that seemed scummy. An interesiting sidenote is that **TexCat** got into a bit of a scuff with **Sachertorte** D1 about his vote on her, because he also said he was more suspicous of those that “doubled down” on weak votes. **TexCat** seemed to take offense at that, even though it wansn’t directed at her, and **jsgoddess** defended **TexCat** against the accusastion. **D2** , she continues to hover around the edges, asking for clarification rather than stating a case: > [@Mafia Reunion - Day Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/179): > > I thought this was a very good point yesterDay, but after Colby flipped town, it didn’t seem as much of a point. I did look at your case on BillMc. > > Does anyone have any insight into this Dante game? I didn’t play in Dante’s recent game, Death of Mother Nature, but I went over to look and BillMc wasn’t in it either. Colby was and he was town and NK’d on night 4, not lynched at all. > > The odd thing here though is, as Drain points out, Bill doesn’t see any case on ToeJam here in post 1000, even though he later thinks the argument in 568 is worth a vote. > BillMc is probably #2 on my list of all-time best scum hunters. Perhaps this is just not his best effort, but it feels more like it’s coming from scum to me. > > **vote: BillMc** She votes **BillMc** , which is intersting, because with the lack of bussing this game would make me think she isn’t a wolf. But **jsgoddess** defended her, which hinted at **TextCat** being a wolf. I want to review the rest of the Days, but I think **TexCat** is scum. So: **Vote TexCat** ---
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> [@NAF1138](#): > > Policy has always been that Mod kills happen at Dawn. This is more formal warning territory than anything. > > Total Lost > Nesta > Scathach > Enderw > And Meeko > > Are all deficient in their posting responsibilities. Oh… right… dawn is on Tuesday… not today. Today is dusk. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
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