# Mafia Reunion Day 5

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [February 7, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271 "2017-02-07T20:22:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/501 "2017-02-13T18:22:24Z")

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Updated player by player votes. Let me know if you find errors.

[spoiler] **The Living** (31)  
3. Biotop - D1 ToeJam not lynched - D2 ToeJam not lynched - D3 Idle mis-lynch - D4 Squid lynched scum – D5 Prof. P mis-lynched  
6. bufftabby - D1 Lakai mislynch -D2 brewha mislynch - D3 Prof. P not lynched - D4 Diggit - D5 Prof. P mis-lynched  
7. Captain Klutz - E1 ToeJam not lynched - D2 ToeJam not lynched - D3Idle mis-lynch - D4 Squid lynch scum - D5 Prof. P mis-lynched  
10. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies - D1 Lakai mislynch -D2 brewha mislynch - D3 Idle mis-lynch - Squid lynch scum - D5 Prof. P mis-lynched  
11. crys75 - D1 No vote - D2 brewha mislynch - D3 Enderw24 not lynched - D3 Enderw24 not lynched- D5 no vote  
13. [del]DaphneBlack[/del]Lakai 2 - D1 no vote (as Daphne) - D2 brewha mislynch - D3 - HockeyMonkey not lynched - D4 - Diggit mis-lynched -D5 Prof. P mis-lynched  
16. EnderW24 - D1 ToeJam not lynched - D2 no vote - D3 Prof. P not lynched - D4 Squid lynch scum - D5 no vote  
17. Guiri - D1 ToeJam not lynched - D2 ToeJam not lynched - Squid not lynched - D4 Diggit mis-lynch - D5 Total Lost not lynched  
18. Hal Briston - D1 no vote - D2 no vote - D3 Prof. P not lynched - D4 no vote - D5 no vote  
19. hawkeyeop - D1 Colby not lynched - D2 Crys not lynched - D3 Idle mis-lynch - D4 Squid lynch scum -D5 Prof. P mis-lynched  
21. HookerChemical - D1 ToeJam not lynched - D2 ToeJam not lynched - D3 Pleonast not lynched - D4 Diggit mis-lynch – D5 Nanook not lynched  
22. Hoopy Frood - D1 Lakai mislynch - D2 HockeyMonkey - D3 Prof. P not lynched - D4 Diggit mis-lynch – D5 TexCat not lynched  
24. Inner Stickler - D1 Lakai mislynch - D2 brewha mislynch - D3 Prof. P not lynched - Squid lynch scum – D5 Johnny Bravo not lynched  
25. Johnny Bravo D1 Normal Phase not lynched - D2 brewha mislynch - D3 Idle mis-lynch - D4 Squid lynch scum - D5 Prof. P mis-lynched  
27. Khameleon - D1 no vote - D2 brewha mislynch - D3 Idle mis-lynch - D4 no vote - D5 - D5 Prof. P mis-lynched  
28. Koldanar- D1 Lakai mislynch - D2 SNFaulkner not lynched - D3 no vote - D4 Diggit mis-lynch - D5 Prof. P mis-lynched  
30. LightFoot - D1 Lakai mislynch - D2 Pleonast not lynched - D3 Idle mis-lynch - D4 Prof. P not lynched - D5 Prof. P mis-lynched  
31. Meeko D1 Lakai mislynch - D2 brewha mislynch - D3 Khameleon not lynched - D4 Squid lynch scum - D5 no vote  
32. Mhaye - D1 Lakai mislynch - D2 ToeJam not lynched - D3 Prof. P not lynched - D4 Prof. P not lynched - D5 Prof. P mis-lynched  
33. Nanook of the North Shore - D1 Lakai mislynch - D2 Chronos not lynched - D3 Idle mis-lynch - D4 Prof. P not lynched - D5 Prof. P mis-lynched  
34. Nesta - D1 Lakai mislynch - D2 ToeJam not lynched - D3 Idle mis-lynch - no vote - D5 Texcat not lynched  
37. Plumpudding - D1 Lakai mislynch - D2 Texcat not lyched - D3 Idle mis-lynch - D4 Squid lynch scum - Texcat not lynched  
38. [del]Precambrian mollusk[/del]Cygnus 42 - D1 no vote - D2 no vote - D3 Prof. P not lynched - D4 Diggit mis-lynch - D5 Prof. P mis-lynched  
40. Raventhief - D1 Lakai mislynch - D2 ToeJam not lynched - D3 Idle mis-lynch - D4 Diggit mis-lynch – Khameleon not lynched  
44. Scathach - TexCat not lynched - Crys75 not lynched - D3 no vote - D4 no vote - D5 no vote  
46. sinjin - D1 ToeJam not lynched - D2 ToeJam not lynched - D3 Idle mis-lynch - D4 Prof. P not lynched - D5 Prof. P mis-lynched  
47. snfaulkner - D1 ToeJam not lynched - D2 Crys75 not lynched - D3 Squid not lynched - D4 Squid lynch scum – Khameleon not lynched  
50. Texcat - D1 Colby not lynched - D2 Crys75 not lynched - D3 Prof. P not lynched - D4 Squid lynch scum - Paulwhoisnotlynched  
53. Total Lost - D1 Angel not lynched - D2 brewha mislynch - D3 Prof. P not lynched - D4 Diggit mis-lynch - D5 no vote  
54. [del]Winston Smith[/del]Paulwhoisaghost - D1 no vote - D2 brewha mislynch - D3 Diggit not lynched - D4 Diggit mis-lynch - D5 Prof. P mis-lynched  
55. Zeriel - D1 Angel not lynched - Crys75 not lynched - D3 Idle mis-lynch - Prof. P not lynched - D5 Prof. P mis-lynched

**The Deceased** (24):  
12. Dante G – ModKilled D1 –Vanilla Town  
29. Lakai 1 – Lynched D1 - Vanilla Town  
35. Normal Phase – Daykilled D1 - Investigative Journalist  
45. septimus – Daykilled D1 - EMT  
48. Suburban Plankton – Nightkiled N1 Homicide Detective  
9. Colby11 – Nightkilled N1 – Vanilla Town  
5. brewha – Lynched D2 – Vanilla Town  
8. Chronos – Daykilled D2 - Mason  
15. Drain Bead - Nightkilled N2 - Leprechaun  
41. Red Skeezix - Modkilled D3 - Vanilla Town  
43. Sario – poofed D3 - Wizard  
23. Idle Thoughts - Lynched D3 - Vanilla Town

1. AngeloftheNorth - Nightkilled N3 - Vanilla Town
2. Toejam - Nightkilled N3 - Doctor Seward
3. jsgoddess - Daykilled D3 - Beta Wolf
4. Thing Fish - Daykilled D3 - Omega Wolf
5. DiggitCamara - Lynched D4 - Vanilla Town
6. Boozahol Squid, P.I. - Lynched D4 - Outrider
7. Pleonast - Daykilled D4 - Seer
8. BillMc - Night Killed N4 - Whelp
9. Sunny Daze - Night Killed N4 - Informant
10. Hockey Monkey - Night Killed N4 - Consigliere  
39.Prof. Pepperwinkle - Lynched D5 - Vanilla Town
11. Sachertorte - Day Killed D5 - First Deacon[/spoiler]

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/502 "2017-02-13T18:25:52Z")

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This is helpful, but why not also include the votes of the deceased? Or at least known scum/3P?

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/503 "2017-02-13T18:40:01Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> The huge number of lurkers in this game is exceedingly frustrating, and part of that is because it’s a certainty that there are townies in that pool. But that’s part of what the game is about - identifying pools of players and then playing Bobbing for Scum.
> 
> This game should get a lot more manageable starting tomorrow, so I hope some of y’all will be able to pay more attention and contribute.

I am and I will. I’m really sorry. I got a notification from NAF about being modkilled I could tell his frustration. It’s understandable. Three people are trying to manage 55 players and all we have to manage is ourselves, but can’t even do that.

I’m going to look over **Hooker** and **SnFaulkner’s** helpful voting summaries and come back Day 6 playing.

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**Author:** ![Khameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dec6dc/32.png) [@Khameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khameleon)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/504 "2017-02-13T18:48:02Z")

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> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#):
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> Suckers…

_ **Be gone taunting tentacled ghostie!!!** _

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**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/505 "2017-02-13T18:49:11Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> This is helpful, but why not also include the votes of the deceased? Or at least known scum/3P?

Short answer: when I did the initial write-up based on yesterDay’s results, I was frustrated with how useless I was finding the list and didn’t see the benefit of adding the dead. If you think it will be helpful, I’ll see about adding them on the next update, probably toMorrow because the bulk of the work for a Dawn update will be colorizing the dead.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/506 "2017-02-13T22:30:36Z")

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Slow night. Hopefully it will give those that are behind a chance and the will to catch up.

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/507 "2017-02-13T23:44:29Z")

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Farewell Prof and Sache!

The game certainly is getting more manageable now.

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/508 "2017-02-14T02:36:30Z")

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Go back to your watery grave.

With that extra kill, we are up to 5 potential deaths per cycle right? 31players-5scum=26. 26/5= 5 cycles til LYLO right?

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/509 "2017-02-14T02:56:30Z")

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[ul] 31 living players   
3 Wolves   
5 Mafia   
4 LUTHA   
19 possible Town?   
“power” ROLES ALIVE   
9 TOWN The Watcher   
The Basement-Based Tinkerer master switcher/1 shot tracker   
3X A Mason   
The Understudy   
The Patsy miller   
The Zoning Inspector ROLE BLOCKER   
Alternate Universe Batman vig   
5 MAFIA The Godfather   
The Bodyguard   
The Hitman   
The Mook 1X MIMIC   
The Enforcer 1 CYCLE BLOCKER   
3 WOLVES The Alpha Wolf   
The Bloodhound TRACKER   
The Trickster 1 CYCLE BLOCKER   
4 LUTHA   
[/ul] MY COUNT. \*\* Paul \*\* you left off the Wolves?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/510 "2017-02-14T02:58:15Z")

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_squint_

There are **eight** scum alive. There are **five** mafia and **three** wolves.

I think you’re pretty townie, paul, but this reads like a slip. It reads like you only counted one of the two scum teams there. Am I misunderstanding your post?

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/511 "2017-02-14T03:49:01Z")

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Once…Twice…

> [@LightFoot](#):
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> ```
> 3X	A Mason						
> 
> ```

That damn song is now in my head. Thanks, Lightfoot Richie.

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/512 "2017-02-14T03:49:11Z")

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> [@HookerChemical](#):
>
> Short answer: when I did the initial write-up based on yesterDay’s results, I was frustrated with how useless I was finding the list and didn’t see the benefit of adding the dead. If you think it will be helpful, I’ll see about adding them on the next update, probably toMorrow because the bulk of the work for a Dawn update will be colorizing the dead.

I appreciate the effort, but I also found it useless. I think we need to look past final votes on this one.

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/513 "2017-02-14T03:56:02Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> [ul]31 living players  
> 3Wolves  
> 5Mafia  
> 4LUTHA  
> 19possible Town?  
> "power"ROLES ALIVE  
> 9 TOWNThe Watcher  
> The Basement-Based Tinkerermaster switcher/1 shot tracker  
> 3XA Mason  
> The Understudy  
> The Patsymiller  
> The Zoning InspectorROLE BLOCKER  
> Alternate Universe Batmanvig  
> 5 MAFIA The Godfather  
> The Bodyguard  
> The Hitman  
> The Mook1X MIMIC  
> The Enforcer1 CYCLE BLOCKER  
> 3 WOLVESThe Alpha Wolf  
> The BloodhoundTRACKER  
> The Trickster1 CYCLE BLOCKER  
> 4 LUTHA  
> [/ul] MY COUNT. \*\* Paul \*\* you left off the Wolves?

> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
>
> _squint_
> 
> There are **eight** scum alive. There are **five** mafia and **three** wolves.
> 
> I think you’re pretty townie, paul, but this reads like a slip. It reads like you only counted one of the two scum teams there. Am I misunderstanding your post?

It’s not a slip. There are 8 total scum. But the wolves win condition is at 3 instead of mafia at 5. Right now lylo is determined by the number of mafia because they outnumber the wolves.

Now do you see why it is important for us to attempt to discern between wolf and mafia? If we have two potential lynch candidates and one is a suspected wolf while the other is suspected mafia, it would make more sense for us to Lynch the suspected mafia right now.

If we kill a wolf, LYLO does not move back at all because mafia will still win when there are 10 players remaining. If we kill all the wolves, mafia will still win when there are 10 players remaining.

You seriously didn’t realize this was what was determining lylo?

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/514 "2017-02-14T04:31:34Z")

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\*\* Paul \*\* snuggling wolves are you?  
No really  
as I asked before how the hell can Town tell who is a Wolf or a Mafa ? Voting records \* might \* help but - really-  
Now if you want to do the home work and determine a pattern- go right ahead.  
Any Scum we kill removes a power role from their ranks =all good for me.

and whilst I am thinking about it you posted your tinfiol hat theory about the cult being a Scum ploy ( the way I read it) But you danced with your nails on my idea about having another claim to remove them from the wolf pool ( confusing to me)

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/515 "2017-02-14T04:38:31Z")

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> [@paulwhoisaghost](#):
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> I appreciate the effort, but I also found it useless. I think we need to look past final votes on this one.

All data \*could be \*useful to someone- I read your statement as a tad rude

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**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/516 "2017-02-14T05:05:13Z")

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> [@Scathach](#):
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> Now that sachertorte has died and we see that we don’t get a win-stealing or non-winstealing reveal, I’d like to revisit crys. (Although, as I missed the entire last Day, I may be out of the loop on this). Did she use her cultist power to investigate and confirm sachertorte or not?

I did not. The game has gotten away from me. I’m having more health issues and @ 41 years old I have been referred to a cardiologist.

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/517 "2017-02-14T05:18:17Z")

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> [@Crys75](#):
>
> I did not. The game has gotten away from me. I’m having more health issues and @ 41 years old I have been referred to a cardiologist.

You will of course use your own judgement, but I think if a player under pressure claims LUTHA \* then \* you can take a peek in their closet. if they pass then they can check the next one - just an idea- you run with yours .

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/518 "2017-02-14T05:25:16Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
>
> \*\* Paul \*\* snuggling wolves are you?  
> No really  
> as I asked before how the hell can Town tell who is a Wolf or a Mafa ? Voting records \* might \* help but - really-  
> Now if you want to do the home work and determine a pattern- go right ahead.  
> Any Scum we kill removes a power role from their ranks =all good for me.
> 
> and whilst I am thinking about it you posted your tinfiol hat theory about the cult being a Scum ploy ( the way I read it) But you danced with your nails on my idea about having another claim to remove them from the wolf pool ( confusing to me)

It seemed there are more and more players suggesting that a player could be mafia but not likely wolf… it was discussed numerous times in the case of Prof P. You yourself have just posted quite a delightful smudge of me implying I am a wolf without actually accusing me of it. So obviously it’s not beyond you to attempt to discern wolf from mafia. And yet you continue to question whether or not it’s even possible. This pings me as you pushing back against my opinion that we should give priority to mafia lynches. IIRC you got quite upset the last time I was talking about the mafia needing a killing also. The wolves sure took my encouragement to heart, and town is better off for it.

Now you seemed to not understand what determines lylo in this game. As town I know I’m keeping a watchful eye on that number, your confusion at my estimation of lylo makes me wonder why you arent.

This goes for Johnnybravo too.

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/519 "2017-02-14T05:26:28Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
>
> All data \*could be \*useful to someone- I read your statement as a tad rude

Did you read his own comment that he was frustrated with how useless it turned out to be? Or are you just trying to come up with reasons people shouldn’t like me at this point?

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/520 "2017-02-14T05:37:23Z")

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\*\* Paul \*\* it is late in the day for me- You are coming across as condescending - I bit back  
[sub] Hubby is home and I am going to bed [/sub]

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