# Mafia Reunion Day 5 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [February 7, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271 "2017-02-07T20:22:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/521 "2017-02-14T05:47:39Z")
Catching up. Sorry Prof. P, (and Pleo). Sachertorte’s flip at least provides some confirmations. Everyone please take good self care of all selves! ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/522 "2017-02-14T06:06:01Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > It seemed there are more and more players suggesting that a player could be mafia but not likely wolf…it was discussed numerous times in the case of Prof P. And how did that turn out? According to your own calculations, we have 5 cycles before it matters that we kill a mafioso vs wolf. Thats gonna be a LOT of dead townies before we get there. ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/523 "2017-02-14T07:28:23Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > And how did that turn out? According to your own calculations, we have 5 cycles before it matters that we kill a mafioso vs wolf. Thats gonna be a LOT of dead townies before we get there. You aren’t thinking this out. If you wait til LYLO to lynch the mafia then you have to lynch the mafia every Day, unless the wolves are all gone at that point, then when they are equal we get the luxury of not having to kill one particular faction, but just once. Then we have to lynch the leading faction again. Suggesting that we don’t need to worry about this until lylo is saying we shouldnt worry about it until it’s too late. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/524 "2017-02-14T07:35:22Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > And how did that turn out? According to your own calculations, we have 5 cycles before it matters that we kill a mafioso vs wolf. Thats gonna be a LOT of dead townies before we get there. Oh and just because the people voting for Prof P were wrong doesn’t eliminate the fact that some of us were trying to discern mafia and wolf. And you seem awfully eager to point out how wrong we were about prof’s lynch for someone that was flip-flopping on him for the past few Days. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/525 "2017-02-14T07:35:36Z")
My point is that worst case scenario is no dead mafia in 5 cycles. That means no vig or wolf kills or serial killer kills of mafia in the cycles. Thats Day/Night 10. It’s only Day/Night 5. So in short, I still think we have plenty of time before we need to sweat it. Until then, find a scum, kill a scum. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/526 "2017-02-14T13:15:31Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > You seriously didn’t realize this was what was determining lylo? > [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > Now you seemed to not understand what determines lylo in this game. Holster that there patronizing town, cowboy. I understand now where you were coming from, but if you look at your post objectively it’s pretty obvious why it looked like a slip. It’s not my malfunction that I didn’t understand your shorthand math. I already said that I think you’re pretty townie - that doesn’t give you a free pass. If you’re unclear about something I’m going to call you on it and ask for an explanation. If you get hostile and defensive, I’m going to wonder why. As for your overall point, I’ll just say this: A scenario where we have to choose between a suspected mafia and a suspected wolf is a **really great town scenario for town.** If that happens, I agree that we would want to lynch whomever has the greater number of remaining players. That seems almost like a tautology. I also don’t foresee it happening any time soon. We’ve only had a single successful lynch **period** - and that was by the skin of our teeth. A choice between two would be an embarrassment of riches. ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/527 "2017-02-14T14:44:03Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > Did you read his own comment that he was frustrated with how useless it turned out to be? Or are you just trying to come up with reasons people shouldn’t like me at this point? > > Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk It’s less likely that I’ll go back and add unvotes to the summary. For one, they’re going to be a substantial effort. Second, I think the votes by subject (as opposed to voter) provide more information in that regard. Your mileage may vary and if you’d like to make the effort, I encourage you to use my post as a starting point. If you have a better format, I would adopt it as well. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/528 "2017-02-14T14:50:48Z")
For the record, I think that vote records are quite useful and grow more useful as the game progresses. Unvotes, too. They’re a real bear to compile from scratch, though, and I wouldn’t expect anybody to slog through the 5k+ posts so far to compile it a detailed vote/unvote list starting now. But I would encourage you to at least keep updating it, if you’re so inclined. Data is always good. What seems useless now might catch us a scum as information is filled in later. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/529 "2017-02-14T14:51:12Z")
> [@Crys75](#): > > I did not. The game has gotten away from me. I’m having more health issues and @ 41 years old I have been referred to a cardiologist. > > Sent from my XT1526 using Tapatalk I’m sorry you’re having health issues. I’m 41 as well and i have a cardiologist too. It sucks, but hopefully the doctor will make you feel better about things- mine did on my most recent visit. (A lot of out of game stuff, but the first one years ago told me I’d need a new valve by 50- a couple of months ago i was told everything is looking pretty good and i may not need surgery until I’m much much older - or maybe ever) ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/530 "2017-02-14T17:53:02Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > For the record, I think that vote records are quite useful and grow more useful as the game progresses. Unvotes, too. > > They’re a real bear to compile from scratch, though, and I wouldn’t expect anybody to slog through the 5k+ posts so far to compile it a detailed vote/unvote list starting now. > > But I would encourage you to at least keep updating it, if you’re so inclined. Data is always good. What seems useless now might catch us a scum as information is filled in later. [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19984428&postcount=34)served as my basis for Days 1-4. Here’s [Day 5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19995725&postcount=480). The compilation is done by others (SNFaulkner, MHaye, guiri). I’m not parsing the 5000 posts, only summaries. I’ve done re-framing by the voter not the target of the vote. I look ad Day 5 and think “Adding unvotes would be trivial.” Then I look at Day 1. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/531 "2017-02-14T17:59:15Z")
Couple hours till Dawn. ---
**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/532 "2017-02-14T18:53:16Z")
OOG I’m on vacation until Friday, so please don’t be miffed if I’m not around much until then. There’s mountains and stuff here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/533 "2017-02-14T19:59:58Z")
> [@bufftabby](#): > > OOG > > I’m on vacation until Friday, so please don’t be miffed if I’m not around much until then. There’s mountains and stuff here. > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Mountains vs mafia… tough call. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/534 "2017-02-14T20:00:07Z")
One minute to go - if I die and they make a stamp out of me, tell them to use young Johnny Bravo. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/535 "2017-02-14T20:38:27Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > One minute to go - if I die and they make a stamp out of me, tell them to use young Johnny Bravo. Why do you think you’re a likely target? ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/536 "2017-02-14T21:53:15Z")
Is…is it still Night? Am I dead? It’s so dark! AM I BLIND!?! ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/537 "2017-02-14T22:04:43Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Is…is it still Night? Am I dead? It’s so dark! AM I BLIND!?! You are likely to be eaten by a grue. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/538 "2017-02-14T22:11:33Z")
> [@HookerChemical](#): > > You are likely to be eaten by a grue. Bah! Not again. Turn battery-powered brass lantern on. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/539 "2017-02-14T22:40:22Z")
No one started through new Day? The heck. Hang tight. I got stuck having to actually work. Sorry all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271.md?page=26)