# Mafia Reunion Day 5 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [February 7, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271 "2017-02-07T20:22:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/61 "2017-02-08T01:52:27Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > Wow. That was not expected. So much for my thinking Sunny Daze was a cultist (since I was bread crumbing, I was assuming other cultists were too.) Sunny Daze had a post early on where she references Cthulhu for no apparent reason. I thought that was a breadcrumb. > But after Crys and I claimed, Sunny Daze looked less and less like a cultist, but I still held on hope that she was just distancing. Oh well. Or more accurately, Yay! Sunny Daze died and wasn’t a cultist! Ahem. I mean, Yay! Sunny Daze died and was scum. > > And when I read the opening post I was thinking… that mochaccino guy. @Sach, I know we’re at odds, but what thread was it in that Sunny referenced cthulu? I did a search of all forums for posts by Sunny Daze and keyword cthulu and it came back empty. ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/62 "2017-02-08T01:57:46Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > Are you saying that you were testing Lakai to see how she would react to your criticizing her case? Was my interjection interfering with your assessment of Lakai? Otherwise, I don’t agree. It isn’t the same thing. > It is also possible that I’m being hypocritical. That happens. I’ll try not to be, but it happens. > > I don’t really see it as being ‘defensive’ as much as thinking further explanation was needed for others to understand the reasoning. > I don’t see how the time of Day was a relevant factor. I’m pretty sure I posted something to the effect that I would be back to check if my vote was needed to get a second lynch. I’m not 100% sure I posted it, but I was thinking it. > > okay. I checked. _It was literally in the same post as my vote for Biotop_. Like right after. I officially do not understand you. > > Look. I’m Third party. Maybe you haven’t thought much about what playing this game is like for Third party, but it’s _different_. As neither Town or Scum, there are unusual choices I need to make. I’m trying to have fun and make the game fun for me by looking for things and angles to participate in, but I absolutely do not want to have a strong effect on the vote trains of the Day. I know that sounds weird, but I feel it is the best thing for Town to keep myself away from influencing the vote record or swaying the lynch wagons one way or another. Why? Because I’m Third Party. My vote record isn’t going to tell you my alignment. I’m telling the truth, but if I wasn’t, I’m not going to get caught by my vote record. I would get caught in a lie with a dead First Deacon or cultist investigation. My vote as a matter of record isn’t important; but influencing the vote or wagons could be detrimental (probably not, but not worth it). The vote influences will hopefully tell you about players who aren’t me. So yeah, I’m staying out of it. > > That’s why, when I saw an opening and a decent point of view on Biotop’s choices, I pursued that. You know, for _fun_. And then I trounced all over your fun. I get it now. ---
**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/63 "2017-02-08T02:01:01Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Did you see sachertorte’s comments on Pleonast’s vote last Night? You’re going to have to be more specific. I don’t see anything from last Night that would change my mind, not even–especially not–your repeated protestations of innocence. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/64 "2017-02-08T02:05:33Z")
> [@bufftabby](#): > > You’re going to have to be more specific. I don’t see anything from last Night that would change my mind, not even–especially not–your repeated protestations of innocence. D4.P642. sachertorte > [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by storyteller0910 View Post > [color=blue]Pleonast, the unluckiest Seer in the history of Seering, has been Day killed. > Color is just color, but > (1) The entire thing is in BLUE (which is a color of an entirely different sort). > (2) Blue stuff is supposed to treated as mod-gospel > (3) There really isn’t any reason to believe storyteller would comment on Pleonast’s luck if it weren’t true. > > Speculation on how Pleonast was unlucky: > (i) Pleonast indicated to the moderators that he was going to claim but got killed before he could do so… was Pleonast’s power a day power or night power? > (ii) Pleonast’s switch kept getting flipped to the off position and didn’t get any reads in > (iii) Pleonast’s reads are all dead. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/65 "2017-02-08T02:12:35Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Did you see sachertorte’s comments on Pleonast’s vote last Night? I’ll say now what I said then: we have absolutely no reason to believe that a mod would give us clues about the Seer’s results. ---
**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/66 "2017-02-08T02:14:57Z")
The cultist’s speculation does not sway me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/67 "2017-02-08T02:35:15Z")
Posting this, because I did the work. [ul] 33 living players 3 Wolves 5 Mafia 5 cult? 20 possible Town? “power” ROLES ALIVE 9 TOWN The Watcher --1 cycle The Basement-Based Tinkerer – Night master switcher/1 shot cycle tracker 3X A Mason The Understudy The Patsy – miller The Zoning Inspector – Day blocker Alternate Universe Batman – Night vig 5 MAFIA The Godfather The Bodyguard – Night The Hitman --Night The Mook – 1X MIMIC The Enforcer – 1 CYCLE BLOCKER 3 WOLVES The Alpha Wolf The Bloodhound --Day-- TRACKER The Trickster – 1 CYCLE BLOCKER [/ul] Am I missing anything? ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/68 "2017-02-08T02:44:02Z")
> [@bufftabby](#): > > I’ve been suspicious of **Prof P** , and now **Pleonast** has pretty firmly pointed a finger in his direction. I was already planning to vote him again, but now doubly so. > > **vote prof pepperwinkle** Yeah, the more I look at **Pleo** ’s vote records, the more like finger pointing it seems. The unvote and revote in the same post on two consecutive days…and not voting anywhere else…It’s like he’s screaming behind his keyboard at us for two Days. **Vote Prof. Pepperwinkle** I’m still interested in \*\*Khameleon \*\*though, due that not-being-worried-about-killed-at-night thing… ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/69 "2017-02-08T02:59:37Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > @Sach, I know we’re at odds, but what thread was it in that Sunny referenced cthulu? I did a search of all forums for posts by Sunny Daze and keyword cthulu and it came back empty. Is this the post you are talking about, Sach? > [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/288): > > I believe this game will eat all of our souls. From the N0 thread. It’s the closest thing to a reference to Cthulu I could find. If it is the post you are talking about, it was actually in response to the previous post by Zeriel. > [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/287): > > I did note one difference reading the Google Doc that I haven’t seen anyone else point out yet: The Mafia seem to have all Night power roles, and the Werewolves all have Day power roles. > > I’m not yet seeing a way to use this to our advantage, but I haven’t gone full analytic on this yet because work is eating my soul with rice. ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/70 "2017-02-08T03:08:12Z")
Posting Rules There are no post restrictions. As long as you are alive, you may post whatever you like, wherever you like, whenever you like. You may quote your role PM, and any PM sent to you by the moderators. You may discuss strategy by Day or by Night. If you have access to outside boards, you may post to them on any subject at any time. If someone claims a post restriction of any kind, they are lying; lynch them. PLEASE NOTE: You are also permitted to edit your posts. Other players may frown upon a choice to do so, but the Moderators will not intervene in any case of post editing. No out-of-game communication related to the game is permitted among living players (that is, no PMing or e-mailing or using Facebook or complex codes based on banging together coconuts). In a game of this size, participation will be rigorously policed. Any player who goes a full Day-Night cycles without contributing to the thread will be replaced (if it is before Day Four and a replacement is available) or Mod-killed (if it is after Dawn of Day Four or if no replacement can be found). Obviously, exceptions will be made for unusual circumstances; all Mod-kills are at the absolute discretion of the Moderators. Players who are Mod-killed are considered to have lost the game no matter what else happens. Ok… I’ve got a tin foil hat theory bouncing around in my noggin… I’ve copied the posting rules from N0 because I had to check to see if what I am about to ask would violate any rules… I didn’t join the game until D2… so I have no point of reference for when on N0 role PMs went out. I’m not attempting to “crack” the game by grouping when all the scum PMs went out. Is anyone willing to share the time of when they received their PM? OR **Since I didn’t receive a role PM on Night 0, would you be willing to share when the last role PM was sent out?** ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/71 "2017-02-08T03:12:24Z")
@Prof. Pepperwinkle: Again, why have you been promoting LtL so hard this game, and more importantly, why have you misrepresented your reasons for going away from LtL? I went back to Giraffe to have a look: [Here](http://www.giraffeboards.com/showpost.php?p=1304063&postcount=436), based on your own research, you admit LtL is about as effectual as voting random. [Later](http://www.giraffeboards.com/showpost.php?p=1304080&postcount=444) you also state that lurkers are gonna lurk, LtL or not. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/72 "2017-02-08T03:19:24Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > **Since I didn’t receive a role PM on Night 0, would you be willing to share when the last role PM was sent out?** **No, though nothing is stopping players from sharing their timestamps. Let’s just not head toward screenshotting things or anything. It’s lame.** ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/73 "2017-02-08T03:21:55Z")
> [@Plumpudding](#): > > @Prof. Pepperwinkle: Again, why have you been promoting LtL so hard this game, and more importantly, why have you misrepresented your reasons for going away from LtL? > > I went back to Giraffe to have a look: > [Here](http://www.giraffeboards.com/showpost.php?p=1304063&postcount=436), based on your own research, you admit LtL is about as effectual as voting random. [Later](http://www.giraffeboards.com/showpost.php?p=1304080&postcount=444) you also state that lurkers are gonna lurk, LtL or not. I have a comment on this, but I’ll wait to see what Prof says. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/74 "2017-02-08T03:25:34Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > **No, though nothing is stopping players from sharing their timestamps. Let’s just not head toward screenshotting things or anything. It’s lame.** I agree it’s lame. I only ask because I didn’t receive one on N0, so I don’t have the reference point of when PM’s were being distributed and general chit chat started to cease. Anyone willing to share… maybe instead of an exact time you could share a post from around the time you received your PM so I have a benchmark… I don’t want a ton of people providing theirs… I only need one. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/75 "2017-02-08T03:31:54Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > I have a comment on this, but I’ll wait to see what Prof says. > > Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk Comment away? ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/76 "2017-02-08T03:34:37Z")
> [@Plumpudding](#): > > Comment away? I’m cruising the N0 thread right now and I noticed that Prof was advocating LtL before anyone had said they received their role PMs. I still think Prof is scum, but his position on LtL is a nulltell. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/77 "2017-02-08T03:35:48Z")
Page 2 of the N0 thread has people saying they got their PMS. I go mine about on 1/5 at 10:53. and I want to hear the tin foily idea. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=815426&page=2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=815426&page=2) ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/78 "2017-02-08T03:36:01Z")
Maybe so, but I want a straight answer, since to me it looks like he’s been dodging it all game. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/79 "2017-02-08T03:36:44Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > I agree it’s lame. I only ask because I didn’t receive one on N0, so I don’t have the reference point of when PM’s were being distributed and general chit chat started to cease. > > Anyone willing to share… maybe instead of an exact time you could share a post from around the time you received your PM so I have a benchmark… I don’t want a ton of people providing theirs… I only need one. > > Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk I got mine 01-05-2017, 07:53 AM ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/80 "2017-02-08T03:37:14Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > Posting Rules > > There are no post restrictions. As long as you are alive, you may post whatever you like, wherever you like, whenever you like. You may quote your role PM, and any PM sent to you by the moderators. You may discuss strategy by Day or by Night. If you have access to outside boards, you may post to them on any subject at any time. If someone claims a post restriction of any kind, they are lying; lynch them. > PLEASE NOTE: You are also permitted to edit your posts. Other players may frown upon a choice to do so, but the Moderators will not intervene in any case of post editing. > No out-of-game communication related to the game is permitted among living players (that is, no PMing or e-mailing or using Facebook or complex codes based on banging together coconuts). > In a game of this size, participation will be rigorously policed. Any player who goes a full Day-Night cycles without contributing to the thread will be replaced (if it is before Day Four and a replacement is available) or Mod-killed (if it is after Dawn of Day Four or if no replacement can be found). Obviously, exceptions will be made for unusual circumstances; all Mod-kills are at the absolute discretion of the Moderators. Players who are Mod-killed are considered to have lost the game no matter what else happens. > > Ok… I’ve got a tin foil hat theory bouncing around in my noggin… I’ve copied the posting rules from N0 because I had to check to see if what I am about to ask would violate any rules… > > I didn’t join the game until D2… so I have no point of reference for when on N0 role PMs went out. I’m not attempting to “crack” the game by grouping when all the scum PMs went out. Is anyone willing to share the time of when they received their PM? > OR > **Since I didn’t receive a role PM on Night 0, would you be willing to share when the last role PM was sent out?** Hold the phone. There was some speculation that \*\* Dante G \*\* who was Mod killed at the beginning of D1 ( no sub) had a Town Power role. And that one of the players that got their roles late in the N0 cycle were possible receivers of said Town power role. Time stamping the last late role PMs \* could be considered role fishing \* [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271.md?page=5)