# Mafia Reunion Day 5

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**Created:** [February 7, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271 "2017-02-07T20:22:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/227 "2017-02-09T21:39:13Z")

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> [@sachertorte](#):
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> Hmmm. I don’t like this. The first quote talks about looking at all of Ender’s posts. The second explicitly says he didn’t study every single post. I mean, if I’m going to vote for someone for fluff, one should check for fluffiness. Looking at two posts that are fluffy doesn’t prove fluffiness, like at all. Right? So there’s a logic thing here that bothers me. It looks to me like Nanook is ‘going through the motions,’ sort of like he needs to to look Town.

You know you can click someone’s name, and it pulls up a big list of posts right, with a little bit of a recap? Then you can quickly scan through them. I had two posts in mind, I pulled up the full lists of his posts, then I skimmed through looking for the two I was thinking about. So yes, I both looked at all of his posts, AND didn’t study them all. Crazy how that works!

That’s leaving aside the fact that looking over someone’s posts and studying them are not inherently the same.

> [@](#):
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> But… but… what is it about “the other posts he’s made” make you think he is Mafia? Your ‘case’ is that there is a lack of content when Ender did have content.
> 
> Hmm. Sloppy Townie? or Scheming Scum?  
> I’m gonna round up to scheming scum. I really ought to re-read all of Nanook’s posts because I don’t have a strong recollection of Nanook. I wonder if Nanook falls into the fluffy category. Something for later.
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> **vote Nanook of the North Shore**  
> For accusing someone of lacking content after only selectively reading posts.

Let’s go back to where I first voted for Ender shall we? This was in response to the larger quote I posted earlier.

> [@Mafia Reunion - Day Three](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/28):
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> I agree with Angel. That post and it’s reasoning is awful. If you’re so convinced it’s all a lie, the answer of what to do about it is fairly academic. If they aren’t neutral 3rd parties, which is part of the claim, they need to die, period, full stop. As it seems likely that Batman is turned off for at least the time being, and scum are unlikely to do it for us, that leaves lynching them.
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> Of course, if you yourself are some flavor of scum, then you have an additional data point that they aren’t a member of your faction. That means it’s more likely they are telling the truth. And if they are telling the truth, then lynching them is good for your team since it’s effectively a mislynch for town. However, you probably don’t want to just come out and SAY “we should totally lynch them!” since if they do flip non-hostile or something it makes you look bad. So what is an enterprising scum to do?
> 
> Oh yeah, try and sucker someone else into making the big push for you! Especially if you start mentioning lying, which has already lead to one town’s death this game, that should grab someone’s attention!
> 
> Overall, pretty scummy and a good place for at least an initial vote.
> 
> **Vote enderw24**

I don’t see anything in there that says anyting about voting for him for being fluffy. I voted for him specifically because he posted something calling someone a liar, but wasn’t willing to actually DO anything about it. Very much “Lets you and him fight!” thing.

And since you seem to have such an issue with it, here’s the rest of his posts since then.

D4 119 - an apology, nothing else  
D4 102 - where he accused and voted for Boozy. I already covered it. Clearly not fluffy.  
D4 59 - Doesn’t like a boozy post. Probably leads to 102, but doesn’t have much here and now.

This one should be quoted I think.

> [@Mafia Reunion Day 4](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/42):
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> I still don’t want to lynch a 3rd party. But I do have to FOS Crys for yesterDay.
> 
> You’ve stated you’re non hostile. You’ve stated that your intention is to help Town. But you place a vote on me simply because I questioned your story’s legitimacy and then checked out the rest of the Day. That’s not helping Town. That’s being lazy.
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> Sorry to see you go Angel and ToeJam.  
> I voted for ToeJam on Day 1. But each day I became more and more convinced you were Town. Alas.

Still focused on 3rd party, but still not actually willing to do anything about it. Actually accuses other people of people lazy, which I just don’t even. And then ends with a “I totally knew ToeJam was town, yup I did, even though I voted for him. Woe is me” I kinda wish I had read deeper into his posts on my go back, since this one bothers me more than the second one I previously quoted.

D3 1154 pure jokey fluff while waiting for Dawn post  
D3 1149 fluffy thanks  
D3 1131 comment on roles, no real value  
D3 1128 discussion on how 2 kills could have happened  
D3 933 comments on how he didn’t have a read on jsgoddess, and not much else  
D3 906 was some comments to Idle  
D3 907 was comments on the rules, regarding Idle

The next couple were the ones I quoted originally, plus one with yet more discussion of 3rd party and some actual content regarding other players.

There’s also a post in here about the difference between lurking and not being around.

Then there’s this fun one, his first on D3

> [@Mafia Reunion - Day Three](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/13):
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> **Drain Bead** seems like a good target as one of the top posters for Day 2. Pick off active Townies and the rest will sort itself out in time.  
> Sorry, Drain. As I said at Night, I’ll be stepping up and posting more.
> 
> I’m going to take some time and look through Day 2.
> 
> What’s been interesting thus far is that no wolves or mafia have gotten caught in each other’s crosshairs. I’m sure it’s helpful to be able to discuss it amongst yourselves but still, you’re playing with imperfect information. Killing the other faction is good, but not your number one priority. For either scum side to win, they just need to get down to 15 players and then pick off a single opposing faction. Unlikely? Sure. But the math says that going after Townies is the best course of action.

Yeah, he’s really stepped up and posted more!

I think that’s enough to get my point across. Other than his fascination with third parties and how convinced he is that you guys are lying, about something or other, and his target of Boozy, there isn’t a ton there.

Finally, I didn’t say his other posts make me think Mafia. His posts make me think scum, and since I’ve already outlined why I don’t think he’s Wolf, by process of elimination he must be Mafia. Q.E.D.

And you accuse me of selectively reading posts? Interesting.

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