# Mafia Reunion Day 5

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**Created:** [February 7, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271 "2017-02-07T20:22:00Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-5/779271/368 "2017-02-10T21:56:57Z")

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Going down the list  
\*\* Meeko \*\*  
D1:skimming his 68 posts this has the most substance [spoiler]

> [@Mafia Reunion - Day One](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/169):
>
> Has there ever been an instance where Town has called themselves team? How can this happen, given the fundamental and immutable set-up of Mafia? I’d wager to say town not knowing they are a team, is **THE** defining attribute of Mafia. “Given” roles such as a cop and a doctor would even come after that.
> 
> I’m saying I can’t conceive how it would be natural to even embrace the thought of “team” if you are town. Sure, you could, I guess, have a “team” of Masons of any stripe, but again, that comes from knowing the complete set, if you will. If we don’t know all that (who that) we are, we can never call us a team.
> 
> And I think it even goes one step further.
> 
> Most games, a vast majority of players are vanilla town. They don’t even get to know … Anything. In fact, most games, a vanilla town role goes so far as to state “just you and your abilities” or some variation thereof. … Most town players are further segregated than even just being a randomized group of people, some with extra abilities than others. … It does matter that some players are dealt extra cards than others… **Town doesn’t think as a team, in any sense, and most town players (vanillas) are subtly encouraged not to think of “team” at all.**
> 
> Finally, if we are to find Scum (or indeed any non-town) toDay, that is on a Day One, Any Day one… Wouldn’t it need to follow that we do so due to a “Big” slip? One that is obvious?

)[/spoiler]  
Near end of Day unvote Colby, voted Lakai ( both Town)

Day2: Skimming his 50 posts  
Again this topic- word for word from D1 [spoiler]

> [@Mafia Reunion - Day Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/200):
>
> Lest I incur your fervor over you previous ““issue”” with my postings :::
> 
> * * *
> 
> Has there ever been an instance where Town has called themselves team? How can this happen, given the fundamental and immutable set-up of Mafia? I’d wager to say town not knowing they are a team, is THE defining attribute of Mafia. “Given” roles such as a cop and a doctor would even come after that.
> 
> I’m saying I can’t conceive how it would be natural to even embrace the thought of “team” if you are town. Sure, you could, I guess, have a “team” of Masons of any stripe, but again, that comes from knowing the complete set, if you will. If we don’t know all that (who that) we are, we can never call us a team.
> 
> And I think it even goes one step further.
> 
> Most games, a vast majority of players are vanilla town. They don’t even get to know … Anything. In fact, most games, a vanilla town role goes so far as to state “just you and your abilities” or some variation thereof. … Most town players are further segregated than even just being a randomized group of people, some with extra abilities than others. … It does matter that some players are dealt extra cards than others… Town doesn’t think as a team, in any sense, and most town players (vanillas) are subtly encouraged not to think of “team” at all.
> 
> Finally, if we are to find Scum (or indeed any non-town) toDay, that is on a Day One, Any Day one… Wouldn’t it need to follow that we do so due to a “Big” slip? One that is obvious?
> 
> * * *
> 
> I’m voting for Meeko because he took his vote off me despite being apparently quite confident that I’m scum, and admitted at the time that it was a weak move.  
> **You are voting me, because I’m not voting you.** 😕
> 
> I’ve seen this before. I’m not going to help you not sell your house, Squidward. 😃

Not sure what he was going for here but it is verbose

> [@Mafia Reunion - Day Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/203):
>
> This, separate voting process forms the ‘vote record.’  
> Then we assign players to enact the actual lynch with the formal voting required by the game.
> 
> **Vote Sachertorte**
> 
> This has the “synergy” if you can call that, of **Chronos’** voting program, AND “leash the vig”.
> 
> **You lose me between the two, and leave me in Pingsville.**
> 
> This is two concepts that fail spectacularly on their own, and you want to shotgun marry them. … **I’d go so far as to say, there is probably an immediate and direct, …clear and present danger? … To town, if we do this.**
> 
> Ok, but I’m too harsh.
> 
> The only thing this does, is sow more confusion and … Busy work… For town… While Anti-town can still collaborate with their factions… And get on false wagons to oblige your so called safeguards.
> 
> Fair warning.
> 
> **And now for something completely different.**
> 
> It’s like the Haggle game I was in with OreDigger77 [IIRC] they wanted me to do something, and dressed it up real nice, and used appealing terms. However, the end result, devoid of terms only suited to helm them more, better, faster.
> 
> End of warning.  
> .  
> .  
> .  
> **Does the multilynch, in any form, deprive town of tempo, time, and testimony?**
> 
> Tempo: that is we lose in-game days immediately.  
> Time: we can’t use IRL Out of game days to reason, and actually use any and al information, of various degrees of authentic-ness  
> Testimony: Mod Reveals.
> 
> **Do most victories for town come by hitting fast-forward? Or do they come from some slow to form “oops” followed,** in the respective threads **, by an "oh Damn…_Once Town sees this, they win?"_**
> 
> I’m just saying, most games for town are downhill and over a cliff, at a normal speed… The game is unsafe at any speed… Let’s not accelerate.

[/spoiler]  
Doesn’t have a switch, doesn’t care about them.  
Weighs in on the cultists, but it is not clear which side.  
Unvote Sach/ Vote Brewha (town)  
The scale of the game disenfranchises Vanilla Town (participation). Like, to a level I don’t think anyone saw coming. .

D3: Skimming 13 posts  
Votes Khameleon  
No other real substance.

D4: 3 posts [spoiler]

> [@Mafia Reunion Day 4](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/23):
>
> Have we earned the **right** to use two lynches? Note, I didn’t say the ability. I’m simply asking, if we take the risk, is there…is there a reason to do so?  
> .
> 
> How can we be sure that our votes will split up that way? **Slight Ping on TL here.**

> [@Mafia Reunion Day 4](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/302):
>
> Oh, we are voting **Sake Squid**?  
> .  
> Meh.  
> .  
> **Vote Squid**

> [@Mafia Reunion Day 4](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/500):
>
> This.

(re: players running out of steam in the game) [/spoiler]  
Voted Squid  
D5:  
So far nothing to say today  
yes I did skim and leave out some of the " not sure where this is going" posts  
If there is something specific you recall about him, since I have reviewed all Days bring it to my attention and I will likely be able to track it down.

It is difficult to come to a conclusion on dear \*\* Meeko \*\* . I do find it odd that he posted word for word the same post D1 and D2 but that means nothing alone

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