# Mafia Reunion Day 6

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**Created:** [February 14, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855 "2017-02-14T22:51:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/241 "2017-02-20T00:48:47Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > Originally Posted by Captain Klutz  
> > If they are hostile (ie win stealing) then they must be eliminated, which is a huge additional lynch burden for town. So Bufftabby, why do you think that this is a more reaiistic scenario?
> 
> wn stealers are a problem for every player- why the focus?

Everyone wants hostile third parties dead. Everyone also wants the other side to take care of them. Scum are unlikely to use their kill on them (except perhaps near endgame). So getting rid of them will fall upon the lynch.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/242 "2017-02-20T00:58:17Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > Originally Posted by Captain Klutz  
> > Vote Cygnus42
> > 
> > Very light on posts. Was one on the late voters on DiggitCamara to put him in the lead over Boozy on Day 4.
> 
> Very weak on reasoning.

Yes, not a particularly strong case. I wasn’t sold on any of the existing cases so I looked elsewhere.

But here is a WOW on **Cygnus42**

Day2.1121 - Checking in (late sub)  
Day2.1300 - Comments on the vote trains for **brewha** and **Crys**. Gives thoughts on **Johnny Bravo** , **Crys75 & sachertorte** , **ToeJam** and **Meeko**

Day3.52 - Likes **ToeJam** as the primary suspect, points out **Drain Bead’s** suspicions of **TotalLost, BillMC, and ProfP**. Agrees with the observation that Prof P is being vocal without being helpful  
Day3.64 - Wonders if **Sario’s** Day death could count toward an extra lynch  
Day3.68 - Another comment about the Day death of Sario and the loss of multiple Town power roles  
Day3.818 - Thoughts on **Idle Thoughts, Prof P, Toejam** and **BillMC**. Votes **Prof P**

Day4.378 - Has been sick for most of the week. Agrees that LUTHA are not a priority for town right now and appear to be harmless.Still suspects **Prof P.** Wants to look at the cases on **Boozahol** and **DiggitCamara**  
Day4.379 - Comments on the implications of a scum team owning multiple switches  
Day4.530 - Is most suspicious of **Prof P.** But believes there is a tie between **DiggitCamara** and **Boozahol** , so breaks it by voting **DiggitCamara**. Hopes for a double lynch  
Day4.582 - Happy with the scum lynch, sorry to Diggit

Day5.16 - Happy with the 3 scum kills overNight  
Day5.18 - Wonders how wolves could kill 2 mafia overNight  
Day5.353 - Votes **Prof P**. Mainly for his prior suspicions, but also sees the **Pleonast** investigation theory. Does not want to lynch a cultist, but if one doesn’t turn up dead soon then we may have to, just for info  
Day5.481 - Sorry **Prof P**. Happy to see a cultist reveal

The only thing of any note is the vote on Diggit over Boozy. He has since responded to this (post 195 toDay). Overall a weak scum lean.

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/243 "2017-02-20T00:58:52Z")

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Look at the little humans scurry. I’m glad you got to use your rope on me… seems that otherwise you only use it on each other.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/244 "2017-02-20T01:06:54Z")

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Ok, having gone over Mhaye’s reveals, I currently see no reason to doubt what he saw. Here are the key points:

\*\*Cookies \*\*and \*\*Ender \*\*have day powers and \*\*Hal \*\*has a night power.

I’d hate to out town powers unnecessarily, but I’d certainly like to hear from these three before casting judgement.

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/245 "2017-02-20T01:08:00Z")

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> [@Captain\_Klutz](#):
>
> Yes, not a particularly strong case. I wasn’t sold on any of the existing cases so I looked elsewhere.
> 
> But here is a WOW on **Cygnus42** [spoiler]
> 
> Day2.1121 - Checking in (late sub)  
> Day2.1300 - Comments on the vote trains for **brewha** and **Crys**. Gives thoughts on **Johnny Bravo** , **Crys75 & sachertorte** , **ToeJam** and **Meeko**
> 
> Day3.52 - Likes **ToeJam** as the primary suspect, points out **Drain Bead’s** suspicions of **TotalLost, BillMC, and ProfP**. Agrees with the observation that Prof P is being vocal without being helpful  
> Day3.64 - Wonders if **Sario’s** Day death could count toward an extra lynch  
> Day3.68 - Another comment about the Day death of Sario and the loss of multiple Town power roles  
> Day3.818 - Thoughts on **Idle Thoughts, Prof P, Toejam** and **BillMC**. Votes **Prof P**
> 
> Day4.378 - Has been sick for most of the week. Agrees that LUTHA are not a priority for town right now and appear to be harmless.Still suspects **Prof P.** Wants to look at the cases on **Boozahol** and **DiggitCamara**  
> Day4.379 - Comments on the implications of a scum team owning multiple switches  
> Day4.530 - Is most suspicious of **Prof P.** But believes there is a tie between **DiggitCamara** and **Boozahol** , so breaks it by voting **DiggitCamara**. Hopes for a double lynch  
> Day4.582 - Happy with the scum lynch, sorry to Diggit
> 
> Day5.16 - Happy with the 3 scum kills overNight  
> Day5.18 - Wonders how wolves could kill 2 mafia overNight  
> Day5.353 - Votes **Prof P**. Mainly for his prior suspicions, but also sees the **Pleonast** investigation theory. Does not want to lynch a cultist, but if one doesn’t turn up dead soon then we may have to, just for info  
> Day5.481 - Sorry **Prof P**. Happy to see a cultist reveal [/spoiler]
> 
> The only thing of any note is the vote on Diggit over Boozy. He has since responded to this (post 195 toDay). Overall a weak scum lean.

so do you still feel they are Scummiest?- and if not what was your vote about?

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/246 "2017-02-20T01:39:43Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> so do you still feel they are Scummiest?- and if not what was your vote about?

I voted for him because I thought he was scummier than the others. I still have a weak scum lean on him.

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/247 "2017-02-20T01:41:13Z")

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> [@MHaye](#):
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> Her only Night visitor was fourfold and four-footed; a pack of orange-furred monsters ensured that she did not get to kill anyone she had not already helped kill.

I’m taking your claim at face value. If someone can counterclaim, I think they need to step up and do so, sooner rather than later.

There were two other deaths on N4, BillMc and Sunny. I’m guessing Batman got one of them and Cookies got the other? Or is there another killer who kills at night? The Septimus kill by Cookies was during the day. The other unexplained death was on D3 when JSGoddess and ThingFish were both killed. I’m guessing Cookies got one of them. If she just hadn’t killed our EMT, she’d have a pretty good record.

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/248 "2017-02-20T01:51:07Z")

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> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#):
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> Look at the little humans scurry. I’m glad you got to use your rope on me… seems that otherwise you only use it on each other.

Hey, since we’re both dead, I can kick your ass now. Batman’s getting medieval on you tonight in the graveyard.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/249 "2017-02-20T02:15:41Z")

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So who if anyone is facing a modkill at the Dawn?

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/250 "2017-02-20T02:32:15Z")

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I think Total Lost is the only one who did not post anything. Everyone else posted at least once.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/251 "2017-02-20T03:26:34Z")

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Its been said already, but I am wondering, since the cultists have gotten a \*fairly \*warm welcome, why hasn’t at least one more claimed?

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/252 "2017-02-20T03:52:52Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Its been said already, but I am wondering, since the cultists have gotten a \*fairly \*warm welcome, why hasn’t at least one more claimed?

even with crys encouragng\* it.

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**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/253 "2017-02-20T06:32:17Z")

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I am really sorry everyone!!

It’s been a long time with a really bad cold and I am only just started to eat and drink again. I would like to play the game and will do my best to catch up. But I also have stuff at work I need to look into after being in bed this long. Also - seems like my kids think they need my attention too - which is a nice thing considering that they are both teenagers.

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/254 "2017-02-20T14:20:43Z")

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> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#):
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> Hey, since we’re both dead, I can kick your ass now. Batman’s getting medieval on you tonight in the graveyard.

So I recently received a copy of Elseworlds: Batman Vol. I, and there was no medieval Batman in it. Perhaps you can go Wild West on my ass instead?

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**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/255 "2017-02-20T14:30:43Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> even with crys encouragng\* it.

I said one more claim would be OK if they chose to maybe they just don’t want to. I mean at some point we might just end up cannon fodder.

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/256 "2017-02-20T15:08:39Z")

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Hey peeps! Sorry for being away, lots of things happening. I’m up for putting Hal on the chopping block tomorrow.

I’m not sure how much I can participate the coming weeks, I’ll try as best as I can.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/257 "2017-02-20T16:00:37Z")

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I was dreaming about this game last night. Very strange.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/258 "2017-02-20T16:42:46Z")

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Thanks **MHaye** for the claim. I saw it last night but I wanted to check through the role PMs first just to find out if there’s a way that Scum could false claim something like this. From what I see, no. To my knowledge, all scum tracking powers only target the person they’re tracking to see what that person did, not who visited the person.

So I can at least confirm that MHaye is accurate in what he saw to the extent that it involves me. Given that, I’m willing to trust his claim for everything else. I thought about waiting just one more Day before claiming, but cat’s out of the bag now. Besides, given my low participation thus far, I might as well do something positive to assist the game.

Spoiler alert: it ain’t much. But I’ll give you what I can.

I’m the **understudy**.

I had the choice of Investigative Journalist, Homicide Detective and EMT. I immediately rejected EMT. I figured I’d spend most every Day protecting myself, which is a bit less fun than masturbation and gets us no closer to solving the game. I considered Homicide Detective. It’s 2 to 3 times as effective at narrowing down suspects…but it can also be role blocked and give false negatives.

Right or wrong, I chose **Investigative Journalist**.

Day 2, I chose **ToeJam**. He was one of the top vote getters Day 1. The other two flipped Town and I figured we had to have had one scum in our crosshairs. He was who I voted for and I wanted to know.

Good news everyone! He wasn’t Mafia!

Day 3, I chose ToeJam again. I was still suspicious and figured if I came this far, I might as well close it out. And apparently this is where MHaye “caught” me.

Good news everyone! He wasn’t a Wolf! I bet this surprises everyone at this point.

This was awesome. It only took two Days but at least I was able to almost 100% confirm someone as Town. Boy howdy this game will be easy.

> [@Mafia Reunion Day 4](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-4/778699/1):
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> * * *
> 
> While we were on our knees  
> Praying that disease  
> Would leave the ones we love  
> And never come again\*\*\*  
> \*\*  
> ToeJam - Doc Seward  
> AngeloftheNorth - vanilla town  
> \*\*  
> Are dead.

Well fuck me.

Day 4 I chose **Lightfoot**. I talked about how I was sad ToeJam had left the game and I had finally gotten to the point where I could trust him as Town. Lightfoot made a comment asking something like if I was breadcrumbing or something like that. I was and it was a good pickup, but I didn’t respond.

So here’s what I can confirm. **Lightfoot is not Mafia**. It was a coinflip on choice, but there were enough wolves that we knew of at that point I figured the odds are more likely that any random Scum would be Mafia.

Same rationale on Day 5. I chose **Lakai**. I did so because I’ve played in a previous game where there was a scum substitution with a previously active Town player. It’s really difficult to analyse properly because you have to discount everything that player did prior to being subbed back in and they often get Townie credit for no reason.

**So Lakai is also not Mafia.**.

That’s all I’m able to share with you at this point. Hope it helps!

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**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/259 "2017-02-20T16:54:34Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
>
> Thanks **MHaye** for the claim. I saw it last night but I wanted to check through the role PMs first just to find out if there’s a way that Scum could false claim something like this. From what I see, no. To my knowledge, all scum tracking powers only target the person they’re tracking to see what that person did, not who visited the person.
> 
> So I can at least confirm that MHaye is accurate in what he saw to the extent that it involves me. Given that, I’m willing to trust his claim for everything else. I thought about waiting just one more Day before claiming, but cat’s out of the bag now. Besides, given my low participation thus far, I might as well do something positive to assist the game.
> 
> Spoiler alert: it ain’t much. But I’ll give you what I can.
> 
> I’m the **understudy**.
> 
> I had the choice of Investigative Journalist, Homicide Detective and EMT. I immediately rejected EMT. I figured I’d spend most every Day protecting myself, which is a bit less fun than masturbation and gets us no closer to solving the game. I considered Homicide Detective. It’s 2 to 3 times as effective at narrowing down suspects…but it can also be role blocked and give false negatives.
> 
> Right or wrong, I chose **Investigative Journalist**.
> 
> Day 2, I chose **ToeJam**. He was one of the top vote getters Day 1. The other two flipped Town and I figured we had to have had one scum in our crosshairs. He was who I voted for and I wanted to know.
> 
> Good news everyone! He wasn’t Mafia!
> 
> Day 3, I chose ToeJam again. I was still suspicious and figured if I came this far, I might as well close it out. And apparently this is where MHaye “caught” me.
> 
> Good news everyone! He wasn’t a Wolf! I bet this surprises everyone at this point.
> 
> This was awesome. It only took two Days but at least I was able to almost 100% confirm someone as Town. Boy howdy this game will be easy.
> 
> Well fuck me.
> 
> Day 4 I chose **Lightfoot**. I talked about how I was sad ToeJam had left the game and I had finally gotten to the point where I could trust him as Town. Lightfoot made a comment asking something like if I was breadcrumbing or something like that. I was and it was a good pickup, but I didn’t respond.
> 
> So here’s what I can confirm. **Lightfoot is not Mafia**. It was a coinflip on choice, but there were enough wolves that we knew of at that point I figured the odds are more likely that any random Scum would be Mafia.
> 
> Same rationale on Day 5. I chose **Lakai**. I did so because I’ve played in a previous game where there was a scum substitution with a previously active Town player. It’s really difficult to analyse properly because you have to discount everything that player did prior to being subbed back in and they often get Townie credit for no reason.
> 
> **So Lakai is also not Mafia.**.
> 
> That’s all I’m able to share with you at this point. Hope it helps!

I’m not sure what to do with this tbh.

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/260 "2017-02-20T16:59:52Z")

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\*\* Ender \*\* your reasoning is sound.  
I can confirm that I am Not Mafia (or Wolf for that matter) but who wouldn’t

if you are not counter claimed you are accepted

can you step up your participation please- you may be short lived now

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