# Mafia Reunion Day 6 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [February 14, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855 "2017-02-14T22:51:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/281 "2017-02-20T19:40:39Z")
> [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](#): > > Why is the existence of an unknown SK more likely than her being the known role that fits her action? How do you know that the extra kills are coming from a SK rather than, for example, the LUTHA having a killing power? > > This feels like you know who the Mafia kill was and therefore are jumping to SK for Cookies. Well, we have unexplained kills coming from somewhere. You can call them SK or you can call them LUTHA, whatever. But yeah, I got it in my head originally, like everyone else, that Normal Phase was killed by mafia and that the Outrider got Septimus. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/282 "2017-02-20T19:44:43Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > I was explicitly told in my N4 PM that I saw the Wolves kill Hockey Monkey. and similarly that Wolves kill Paul on Night 5. > > I interpreted that to mean that I saw the Wolves in Wolf form carry out both kills, but since they were in Wolf form I was unable to recognise them. > > I also suspect that the same rules apply to the Mafia - that I’d see them jump out of cars and hose people down with tommy guns a la 1930s gangster movies. So I don’t believe the Mafia killed septimus. This might be worth checking with the mods to confirm. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/283 "2017-02-20T19:45:58Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > I was explicitly told in my N4 PM that I saw the Wolves kill Hockey Monkey. and similarly that Wolves kill Paul on Night 5. > > I interpreted that to mean that I saw the Wolves in Wolf form carry out both kills, but since they were in Wolf form I was unable to recognise them. > > I also suspect that the same rules apply to the Mafia - that I’d see them jump out of cars and hose people down with tommy guns a la 1930s gangster movies. So I don’t believe the Mafia killed septimus. Thanks for clarifying. I started to ask but I’m on my kindle and it decided to misbehave. ---
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/284 "2017-02-20T19:46:56Z")
Huh. Well, that changes things as far as Cookies goes. Given that info, we know Septimus was not the Mafia’s DK. Cookies as zoning inspector - blocks Septimus. Means that Boozy couldn’t have caused Septimus to die, which means he had to be targeted by an SK. But if he was, then MHaye would have seen it. Not possible. Cookies as anything else - Bloodhound is the only other known role that could target. Not implausible, but given the fact that Septimus died, SK becomes way more likely. This only requires that he choose not to self protect, which is reasonable since he was outted he would be an obvious target for the Outrider. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/285 "2017-02-20T19:48:15Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > I was explicitly told in my N4 PM that I saw the Wolves kill Hockey Monkey. and similarly that Wolves kill Paul on Night 5. Thank you. So we can determine from this that Mafia as a team did not kill Septimus. Your theory as to how Sept might have died from Boozy is certainly possible…but not plausible. Even were this to be the case, that would still mean that Cookies was doing something there. So it’s going to be up to her to tell us what that something is. Without that explanation, I’m willing to assume the worst. The problem for me is that if we’re to assume Cookies is a SK, there’s not much I can do to either confirm or deny it. ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/286 "2017-02-20T21:05:36Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > So I recently received a copy of Elseworlds: Batman Vol. I, and there was no medieval Batman in it. Perhaps you can go Wild West on my ass instead? Gunfight at high-noon? ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/287 "2017-02-20T22:21:35Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > Thank you. > > So we can determine from this that Mafia as a team did not kill Septimus. > Your theory as to how Sept might have died from Boozy is certainly possible…but not plausible. Even were this to be the case, that would still mean that Cookies was doing something there. So it’s going to be up to her to tell us what that something is. Without that explanation, I’m willing to assume the worst. > \*\* > The problem for me is that if we’re to assume Cookies is a SK, there’s not much I can do to either confirm or deny it.\*\* First of all, thank you for coming forward with your info. For now, I don’t see any reason to doubt you. As for the bolded part, we string her up to confirm. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/288 "2017-02-20T22:23:30Z")
So \*\*Hal \*\*and **Cookies** …we’re listening…what can you tell us? ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/289 "2017-02-20T22:48:32Z")
> [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](#): > > ~ > Cookies - Day Power - Available possibilities - Zoning Inspector, Town Day Blocker; Bloodhound, Wolf Day Tracker; Omega Wolf, several one shot powers, only one of which would be trackable during the day(one shot tracking) > > ~ > For Cookies, same thing about a counter claim as with Ender. The Omega doesn’t fit, why would the Wolves blow a one shot power on Day 1 randomly? And if they did, why is MHaye still alive? They would have seen him I would think, and that would be a pretty damn fine target. Given all that, it’s obvious what she is. > > I’m pretty sure this is accurate. Did I miss anything? \*\* cookies \*\* could also be the trickster ( wolf role blocker)- when you update your list. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/290 "2017-02-20T22:59:59Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > Huzzah for 2 days off in a row. Reading… This appears to be sole contribution from cookies toDay. Somehow I doubt we’ll get much in the way of explanation. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/291 "2017-02-21T00:00:45Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > This appears to be sole contribution from cookies toDay. > > Somehow I doubt we’ll get much in the way of explanation. Yeah, somehow I doubt we’ll hear from Hal either. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/292 "2017-02-21T04:37:23Z")
Yeah, I’m 3rd party SK and despite seeming to have been hanging in there even with some hiccups, I’ve apparently been ironically totally humped since Day 1 and just didn’t know it. We can talk about it more later. No need to take up space in the thread or time squinting at my phone fighting any inevitabilities. No idea what Mhaye is, but he is wasn’t on my list to kill soon and he is correct about my Day 1 actions. Well played, Sir. I will probably take at least another of you out with me. 0:) Your parents would be so proud. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/293 "2017-02-21T04:39:25Z")
Color me mistaken about the response from Cookies. Alrighty then. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/294 "2017-02-21T05:20:36Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > Yeah, I’m 3rd party SK and despite seeming to have been hanging in there even with some hiccups, I’ve apparently been ironically totally humped since Day 1 and just didn’t know it. We can talk about it more later. No need to take up space in the thread or time squinting at my phone fighting any inevitabilities. > > No idea what Mhaye is, but he is wasn’t on my list to kill soon and he is correct about my Day 1 actions. Well played, Sir. I will probably take at least another of you out with me. 0:) Your parents would be so proud. Lutha affiliated 3rd party? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/295 "2017-02-21T05:24:24Z")
Nate I was wondering the same thing… I guess we will find out at the noose, but we know she is neither 1st nor 2nd in the LUTHA hierarchy. So unless there is a Dear Leader type of cult role, Cookies may not be LUTHA. Which would be a bit of a relief for me, as I want to trust that the cultists are merely survivors, and not actually dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/296 "2017-02-21T05:25:29Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Nate I was wondering the same thing… > > I guess we will find out at the noose, but we know she is neither 1st nor 2nd in the LUTHA hierarchy. So unless there is a Dear Leader type of cult role, Cookies may not be LUTHA. > > Which would be a bit of a relief for me, as I want to trust that the cultists are merely survivors, and not actually dangerous. NETA I am also wondering if Cookies will explain the hiccups experienced. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/297 "2017-02-21T05:26:53Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Nate I was wondering the same thing… > > I guess we will find out at the noose, but we know she is neither 1st nor 2nd in the LUTHA hierarchy. So unless there is a Dear Leader type of cult role, Cookies may not be LUTHA. > > Which would be a bit of a relief for me, as I want to trust that the cultists are merely survivors, and not actually dangerous. Well, is she’s willing to off our prime scumspects? Maybe we let her live a while…? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/298 "2017-02-21T05:30:06Z")
Well, she is a daykiller, right? So she is likely to take someone with her, even if she faces the noose. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/299 "2017-02-21T05:31:51Z")
But I am reluctant, personally, to let a SK live. I’d like her to clue us in as much as possible before death, but I don’t know how that would benefit her. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/300 "2017-02-21T05:33:27Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Well, she is a daykiller, right? So she is likely to take someone with her, even if she faces the noose. Well I’m hoping she gets eaten or shot so we can focus on scum lynching…but that might just be wishful thinking. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855.md?page=16)