# Mafia Reunion - Day 9 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [March 7, 2017, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651 "2017-03-07T21:58:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/61 "2017-03-09T00:28:18Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > \*\*Vote: Koldanar \*\* > > I still think that the PM was edited. And now we have a fellow LUTHA, sinjin, saying that it looks fake. Is it necessary to lynch Koldanar now? I think we should leave him alone for now and look for scum elsewhere. I would be in favor of a Koldanar lynch only if two other cult members claim. If we go for a Koldanar lynch we might be making another mistake over bullshit meta game analysis. I say there is no rush to lynch Koldanar. If he is scum, we have five more scum to try and kill. Koldanar can wait. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/62 "2017-03-09T00:31:33Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > Is it necessary to lynch Koldanar now? I think we should leave him alone for now and look for scum elsewhere. I would be in favor of a Koldanar lynch only if two other cult members claim. If we go for a Koldanar lynch we might be making another mistake over bullshit meta game analysis. > > I say there is no rush to lynch Koldanar. If he is scum, we have five more scum to try and kill. Koldanar can wait. This is sense making.And another reason for the cult to speak up. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/63 "2017-03-09T00:31:36Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > Your switch PM is _very_ different- and you have no clue what it does? did you ask questions? Maybe something to do with this: > [@](#): > > Welcome to the game; you are The Informant > > ALIGNMENT: Mafia > YOU WIN if the total number of living Mafia is greater than or equal to 50% of the total population AND greater than the number of living Wolves. > > BACKGROUND: > They say snitches get stitches, and you might too… if you aren’t careful. But the Boss has a lot of faith in you. It’s a big move heading into the den of the Wolves, and it’s not like the Town isn’t dangerous too. But you have a friendly face. People tell you things when you get them talking, and you always can get them talking. > > POWERS: > Once per Night, you may target a player and learn what (s)he does during that Night . ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/64 "2017-03-09T00:34:26Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > ~~ > > As for the mass claim, the only two remaining really claimable roles are the hidden Mason and the Zoning Inspector. I think it would be advantageous for them both to clam now, the Mason while they still have a living buddy and the Inspector because he or she needs to answer some questions. > > Please give them time to claim, while I dig around for Koldanar’s claim. The mason claiming does make some sense. But if the role blocker claims, there are 2 Scum role blockers alive that can effectively neuter the power. of course that could keep them off your back. … or am I missing something? ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/65 "2017-03-09T00:35:07Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > Is it necessary to lynch Koldanar now? I think we should leave him alone for now and look for scum elsewhere. I would be in favor of a Koldanar lynch only if two other cult members claim. If we go for a Koldanar lynch we might be making another mistake over bullshit meta game analysis. > > I say there is no rush to lynch Koldanar. If he is scum, we have five more scum to try and kill. Koldanar can wait. I agree. I’m not concerned with Koldonar in _this_ game at this time (Although I did just vote for him in the game over at Giraffe). I don’t understand Sinjin’s concern over his koldonar’s power, either. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/66 "2017-03-09T00:39:54Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > Maybe something to do with this: > > . BAH yep- I didn’t recall that critter at the time of my typing. thank you. Still it is a _very_ different PM from the other switch PMs we have seen, non? and yet I see no reason to fake it. so- null ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/67 "2017-03-09T00:40:57Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > I agree. I’m not concerned with Koldonar in _this_ game at this time (Although I did just vote for him in the game over at Giraffe). > > I don’t understand Sinjin’s concern over his koldonar’s power, either. Very odd that a cult member would disparage another cult member’s claim with so little evidence. Especially when their win condition allegedly requires them to stay alive in the end. Seems like a risky move. If anything, Sinjin looks a lot more fake and scummy than Koldanar does. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/68 "2017-03-09T00:44:07Z")
> [@sinjin](#): > > I still think that \*\*Koldanar \*\*is a false Lutha for the same reasons I mentioned Yesterday. In addition don’t think his power is within the tenants of Luthaism. If we want to be left the hell alone than we should leave others the hell alone. A redirector is an invasive meddler in the actions of others, no true Lutha would condone that. If anything, your claim makes me feel even stronger that Koldanar is a Cultist. He shared at least two bits of information (The role name of the serial killer, the fact only two cultists had a number associated with them) that I wouldn’t expect scum to know. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/69 "2017-03-09T01:05:22Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > If anything, your claim makes me feel even stronger that Koldanar is a Cultist. He shared at least two bits of information (The role name of the serial killer, the fact only two cultists had a number associated with them) that I wouldn’t expect scum to know. You’re conflating his switch claim with his role claim. I’d be willing to bet that scum had some switches. Scum could have easily received a Glados switch and Koldanar could easily have modified that bit that he underlined about the cult. Perhaps it originally said, “It’s is absolutely not something that will help the mafia. Likely something that would kill you all.” And only two cultists have a number??? I don’t remember that bit of info. Where did you see that? His PM power section was unlike the other LUTHA and, in fact, unlike any others in the game. And the fact that Crys died just as she was investigating Koldanar seems awfully suspicious to me. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/70 "2017-03-09T01:12:01Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > You’re conflating his switch claim with his role claim. I’d be willing to bet that scum had some switches. Scum could have easily received a Glados switch and Koldanar could easily have modified that bit that he underlined about the cult. Perhaps it originally said, “It’s is absolutely not something that will help the mafia. Likely something that would kill you all.” > > And only two cultists have a number??? I don’t remember that bit of info. Where did you see that? > > His PM power section was unlike the other LUTHA and, in fact, unlike any others in the game. And the fact that Crys died just as she was investigating Koldanar seems awfully suspicious to me. Awfully suspicious? Or made to look so? ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/71 "2017-03-09T01:56:52Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > You’re conflating his switch claim with his role claim. I’d be willing to bet that scum had some switches. Scum could have easily received a Glados switch and Koldanar could easily have modified that bit that he underlined about the cult. Perhaps it originally said, “It’s is absolutely not something that will help the mafia. Likely something that would kill you all.” Fair point. > [@TexCat](#): > > And only two cultists have a number??? I don’t remember that bit of info. Where did you see that? The first two cultists revealed were the first deacon and second deacon. My assumption (perhaps not everyone else’s) was that the rest would be 3-5. One of the surprising parts of Koldanar’s claim was that he didn’t have a # and had a different power then the revealed cultists. Sinjin, if we take things at face value, also has no # and has a different power. So for this to work the scum would have needed to know that not all cultists were the same. I’m not sure why they would know that. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/72 "2017-03-09T02:41:27Z")
So SNF, you are have used all your powers up, right? ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/73 "2017-03-09T02:43:38Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > So SNF, you are have used all your powers up, right? Yup, I’m now 'nilla. My parents kicked me out of the basement. Maybe I’ll get a temp job like some regular jackoff. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/74 "2017-03-09T02:45:17Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Yup, I’m now 'nilla. My parents kicked me out of the basement. Maybe I’ll get a temp job like some regular jackoff. Maybe make sure you’re a little less stinky and sticky first? ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/75 "2017-03-09T02:48:50Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Maybe make sure you’re a little less stinky and sticky first? Whoa now, one step at a time. ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/76 "2017-03-09T03:00:29Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > If anything, your claim makes me feel even stronger that Koldanar is a Cultist. He shared at least two bits of information (The role name of the serial killer, the fact only two cultists had a number associated with them) that I wouldn’t expect scum to know. This is false reasoning. His Glados bit of information is from his switch. I had information on my switch as well and I assume that everyone else who had a switch knows who it controls. He never stated that only two cultists had a number associated with them. Why did you assume that? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/77 "2017-03-09T03:00:37Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > The first two cultists revealed were the first deacon and second deacon. My assumption (perhaps not everyone else’s) was that the rest would be 3-5. One of the surprising parts of Koldanar’s claim was that he didn’t have a # and had a different power then the revealed cultists. Sinjin, if we take things at face value, also has no # and has a different power. So for this to work the scum would have needed to know that not all cultists were the same. I’m not sure why they would know that. Exactly. **Sinjin** , how could scum possibly have that knowledge? I made this same point yesterDay: > [@Mafia Reunion: Day Eight](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/63): > > Prior to **Koldanar’s** claim, the cult was regarded as comprising 5 deacons, numbered 1 to 5. For someone to false claim to be a different type of cultist is a rather high risk gamble. If there were indeed 5 deacons, then number 5 would surely have spoken up by now. For these reasons I think that Koldanar is indeed a cultist. > > If there are any other deacons left, I suggest investigating Koldanar toNight and coming forward toMorrow. (Come forward toMorrow rather than toDay, as Mafia have shown they want to interfere with any confirmation attempt) ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/78 "2017-03-09T03:02:41Z")
\*\*I am the last mason. \*\* It is now time for the last lutha to claim ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/79 "2017-03-09T03:08:16Z")
> [@Captain\_Klutz](#): > > Exactly. **Sinjin** , how could scum possibly have that knowledge? I made this same point yesterDay: Because they are making it up. I am a cultist which will become apparent when I die. I have no idea if there are more than two deacons. The Lutha have no idea who the other Lutha are. How would one of us know how many deacons there are. This is a false trail. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651/80 "2017-03-09T03:13:42Z")
> [@Captain\_Klutz](#): > > \*\*I am the last mason. \*\* > > It is now time for the last lutha to claim Fun fact: Khameleon gave us up on [Day Three](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19959447&postcount=827). I wonder if anyone caught that. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-9/781651.md?page=5)