# Mafia Reunion: Day Eight **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [February 28, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068 "2017-02-28T22:07:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/41 "2017-03-01T12:47:42Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > I think it’s clear that Koldanar has edited his PM. I’m not sure why. > > Is it because he’s scum and fake-claiming LUTHA? That seems like a risky thing to do, but it is certainly possible. The town has shown no inclination to lynch LUTHA, and at the time of his claim the mafia had only killed Sachertorte. Is it possible that Koldanar is either the Godfather or the Alpha wolf? And is more worried about being lynched than night killed because he has a 1-shot protection from NKs? > > Or is he LUTHA and there is something he’s hiding about LUTHA or about his role? I’m not sure I buy the re-director role. **Koldanar** , do you know what happens if you redirect someone like the seer? Do they know that they have been redirected? If the seer investigated Chronos and you redirected them to Hal, would the seer just get the result: scum, or would they get the result: Hal is scum. I can’t see how this is supposed to help LUTHA, not to mention town. > > There was also something odd in the [switch PM](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20018283&postcount=65): > It looks like the “kill you all” refers to the cult. It looks like this PM only would have gone to cult members. The word cult is underlined. Perhaps for ready swapping if the message goes to a different group member. The SK is traditionally a role is supposed to kill us all, regardless of faction, right? ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/42 "2017-03-01T13:45:57Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > The word cult is underlined. Perhaps for ready swapping if the message goes to a different group member. The SK is traditionally a role is supposed to kill us all, regardless of faction, right? Oh! That’s a good point, a definite possibilty and makes sense. And that underlined cult was bugging me. ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/43 "2017-03-01T14:09:43Z")
> [@Khameleon](#): > > Yes - GladOS is a potato for a while in Portal 2. Are you thinking this is a residual Cookies kill? Well NAF explicitly said it wasn’t a portal reference so I guess not. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/44 "2017-03-01T15:05:36Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > [I spoke about all three cultist claims at length](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20023258&postcount=255) yesterday. > > Hawkeyeop told me why I was wrong. > > At the very end of the thread Hawkeyeop also told me why I was wrong about my [analysis of Koldanar’s claim.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20032707&postcount=367) > > Hawkeyeop posted times total yesterday. Aside from the two I already mentioned, one was about the SK maybe being LUTHA’s enemy and one was defending Koldanar for sitting on the SK switch. > > Conclusion: Hawkeyeop is probably a cultist. He deserves a re-read with that in mind. Interesting theory. I’m tempted to let it be. I’m probably not going to be lynched if people think I’m a cultist, and my non-lynch is good for my team. However, you and others might make conclusions based on that theory and that would be bad. So I’m going to choose correcting you even if it increases the odds that I get lynched today or the near future. I am not a cultist. I am town. ---
**Author:** ![Cygnus42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Cygnus42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cygnus42)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/45 "2017-03-01T15:26:32Z")
Farewell, HookerChem… Some random thoughts - Odd choice for a night kill, isn’t it though? You’d think a claimed role like MHaye would get more attention, but he’s survived through a day kill and a night kill. Agree that Koldanar’s claim as the pope of LUTHA-town seems odd, but I’d hate to read too much into the wording. Surprised that Johnny B. is still alive - he’s taken over as the most prolific analyzer of things, a position that usually attracts scum attention. Also, I want to apologize for my low content here. I’ve discovered that I like the idea of Mafia games, and following the games, more so than the actual playing of the games. So, I’m trying to find a way to contribute here, but I’m pretty lost - and I don’t really have the mindset for the accusation-based gameplay here. That said, I’ll try to ramp up this week, and find a way to add something helpful into the mix. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/46 "2017-03-01T16:06:55Z")
The only mod kill for the Day is going to be **Total Lost - Vanilla town** I may kill some more people at dusk, but I can’t see any way around removing Ullz. Sorry lady, you know I love ya, but it’s been about 3 Days since you have really participated. Total Lost has…um…lost, and is removed from the game. She does not count towards any additional lynches since it turns out she was never playing. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/47 "2017-03-01T16:20:52Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > The only mod kill for the Day is going to be **Total Lost - Vanilla town** [See 28:20 in](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6ckXQoBw2M) (youtube video). ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/48 "2017-03-01T16:27:57Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > I’m tempted to let it be. I’m probably not going to be lynched if people think I’m a cultist, and my non-lynch is good for my team. Okay, sure. > [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > However, you and others might make conclusions based on that theory and that would be bad. So I’m going to choose correcting you even if it increases the odds that I get lynched today or the near future. Wait, what? It sounds like you just said you’re simultaneously safer and in more danger if people think you’re a cultist. Thank you for the claim, though. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/49 "2017-03-01T16:54:52Z")
[My original Day 6 (Post #65) case against\*\* Zeriel\*\*](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20003950&postcount=65). [His response, Day 6 (Post #114)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20007436&postcount=114) [I respond with follow-up questions](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20009344&postcount=153). The response (D6 #114) is **Zeriel** ’s sole contribution on Day 6. He brushes aside my questions about his original inaccurate account of his \*\*Pepperwinkle \*\*vote and changes the subject to \*\*Johnny Bravo \*\*and **Plumpudding**. He thinks \*\*JB \*\*might be overreaching on his “okay” case against \*\*Khameleon \*\* and is suspicious that \*\*Plumpudding \*\*has not followed up his case against **TexCat**. However, \*\*Zeriel \*\*has yet to follow-up himself on either of his two D6 arguments. He did not answer my question about being pressured to vote for **Pepperwinkle** on Friday with more than 2 real days still to go until EOD. We have instead from \*\*Zeriel \*\* the Day 7 vote on \*\*cookies \*\* and the strange “thought experiment” about what if the wrong number of LUTHA claim. It reads to me as if the comments Day6 #114 were designed to just change the subject and to pretend to be playing. I like this case even better now. \*\*Vote Zeriel \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/50 "2017-03-01T17:04:29Z")
> [@Cygnus42](#): > > Farewell, HookerChem… > > Some random thoughts - > > Odd choice for a night kill, isn’t it though? You’d think a claimed role like MHaye would get more attention, but he’s survived through a day kill and a night kill. It implies that right now scum is more concerned with cultists and perhaps each other than they are with town. Probably means we aren’t currently leading. > [@](#): > > Surprised that Johnny B. is still alive - he’s taken over as the most prolific analyzer of things, a position that usually attracts scum attention. This is one thing I want to look at today. Given scum have consistently been killing high volume posters, any high volume posters who have not been killed should be under greater scrutiny. > [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Okay, sure. > Wait, what? It sounds like you just said you’re simultaneously safer and in more danger if people think you’re a cultist. > > Thank you for the claim, though. Right now, a suspected cultist is less likely to get lynched than a claimed town. Not sure what I said that was inconsistent with that. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/51 "2017-03-01T18:03:53Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > It implies that right now scum is more concerned with cultists _and perhaps each other than they are with town._\* Probably means we aren’t currently leading.\*\*\* > > . I don’t follow this statement at all \* added by me. \*1- cultist or Town Scum need the numbers? \*\*2-Taking out each other needs to occur, but as long as the other faction is Killing non Scum why worry just yet? \*\*\*3 What? who is this “we”. Leading what? Town still has the numbers we are 11+3 Scum is 3+4 Town needs 7 more dead (the Scum) Wolves and Mafia need a bit more carnage than we do ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/52 "2017-03-01T18:13:33Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > This is one thing I want to look at today. Given scum have consistently been killing high volume posters, any high volume posters who have not been killed should be under greater scrutiny. By all means, scrutinize away. I’m happy to address anything you’d like to bring up. However, I don’t think we can say that scum have “consistently been killing high volume posters.” I’d have to go back and look more closely, but I remember thinking that Paul’s death was the first one in a while that seemed to have been motivated mostly by post volume. You should feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. Hell, I’ll just go ahead and post all the day/nightkills to help you get started. > [@kills](#): > > 1. Normal Phase – Daykilled D1 - Investigative Journalist > 2. septimus – Daykilled D1 - EMT - [Killed by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies (MHaye)] > 3. Suburban Plankton – Nightkiled N1 (1) Homicide Detective > 4. Colby11 – Nightkilled N1 – Vanilla Town > 5. Chronos – Daykilled D2 - Mason > 6. Drain Bead - Nightkilled N2 - Leprechaun > 7. jsgoddess - Daykilled D3 - Beta Wolf > 8. Thing Fish - Daykilled D3 - Omega Wolf > 9. AngeloftheNorth - Nightkilled N3 - Vanilla Town > 10. Toejam - Nightkilled N3 - Doctor Seward - [Killed by Mafia Hitman Hal Briston (MHaye)] > 11. Pleonast - Daykilled D4 - Seer > 12. BillMc - Nightkilled N4 - Whelp > 13. Sunny Daze - Nightkilled N4 - Informant > 14. Hockey Monkey - Nightkilled N4 - Consigliere - [Killed by Wolves (MHaye)] > 15. Sachertorte - Daykilled D5 - First Deacon > 16. Winston SmithPaulwhoisaghost - Nightkilled N5 - Vanilla Town - [Killed by Wolves (MHaye)] > 17. Hoopy Frood - Daykilled D6 - alternative universe Batman > 18. EnderW24 - Nightkilled N6 - Understudy (Investigative Journalist) > 19. Hal Briston - Nightkilled N6 - Hitman > 20. HookerChemical– Nightkilled N7 – Vanilla Town There are certainly prolific posters in that bunch, but scum have also done a hell of a job taking out our power roles. How many of those posters can you reasonably say are dead because of their post volume? ---
**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/53 "2017-03-01T18:19:37Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > I think it’s clear that Koldanar has edited his PM. I’m not sure why. > > Is it because he’s scum and fake-claiming LUTHA? That seems like a risky thing to do, but it is certainly possible. The town has shown no inclination to lynch LUTHA, and at the time of his claim the mafia had only killed Sachertorte. Is it possible that Koldanar is either the Godfather or the Alpha wolf? And is more worried about being lynched than night killed because he has a 1-shot protection from NKs? > > Or is he LUTHA and there is something he’s hiding about LUTHA or about his role? I’m not sure I buy the re-director role. **Koldanar** , do you know what happens if you redirect someone like the seer? Do they know that they have been redirected? If the seer investigated Chronos and you redirected them to Hal, would the seer just get the result: scum, or would they get the result: Hal is scum. I can’t see how this is supposed to help LUTHA, not to mention town. > > There was also something odd in the [switch PM](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20018283&postcount=65): > It looks like the “kill you all” refers to the cult. It looks like this PM only would have gone to cult members. Hey, I can answer this at least. I was told by the mods that the target would receive note that something happened - [QUOTE=storyteller0910] [QUOTE=Koldanar] Ah, thanks! Question 2 : If I redirect someone that investigates, will they know they were redirected. Say the seer investigates person x. I redirect to person y - does the seer get a response saying “Person X is a \_\_\_\_”, or do they get “Person Y is a \_\_\_\_” [/QUOTE] They get “Your action was redirected; Person Y is a \_\_\_\_.” Though the color will be more fun than that 🙂 [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/54 "2017-03-01T18:20:42Z")
And another note to TexCat - Yes, that part of the switch PM is what made me wary of GladOS, once it was clear to me that would be a role in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/55 "2017-03-01T19:00:23Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > I don’t follow this statement at all \* added by me. > \*1- cultist or Town Scum need the numbers? Not sure what you are asking here. > [@](#): > > \*\*2-Taking out each other needs to occur, but as long as the other faction is Killing non Scum why worry just yet? I don’t know, you have to ask them. Given that they are leaving a watcher alive though, it seems like they are hoping their scum adversaries get caught. > [@](#): > > \*\*\*3 What? who is this “we”. Leading what? > > Town still has the numbers we are 11+3 > Scum is 3+4 > Town needs 7 more dead (the Scum) > Wolves and Mafia need a bit more carnage than we do 1. We = town 2. Cult are not town, at best they are neutral, so they shouldn’t be added to the town number. 3. We do not know if their are additional 3rd party elements. 4. Town will always have an advantage in numbers. Otherwise they have already lost. A 11-7 ratio for Town to Scum is very bad for town. It doesn’t mean that town (we) have lost, and multiple scum groups help, but it doesn’t look great. 5. My comments were more what scum perceive lead to be rather than what I do. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/56 "2017-03-01T19:33:57Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > Not sure what you are asking here. > > I don’t know, you have to ask them. Given that they are leaving a watcher alive though, it seems like they are hoping their scum adversaries get caught. > > 1. We = town > 2. Cult are not town, at best they are neutral, so they shouldn’t be added to the town number. > 3. We do not know if their are additional 3rd party elements. > 4. Town will always have an advantage in numbers. Otherwise they have already lost. A 11-7 ratio for Town to Scum is very bad for town. It doesn’t mean that town (we) have lost, and multiple scum groups help, but it doesn’t look great. > 5. My comments were more what scum perceive lead to be rather than what I do. 1-but you said in 5 above… 2 “YOU WIN if the total number of living Mafia/Wolves is greater than or equal to 50% of the total population AND greater than the number of living Wolves./Mafia” they do count for the numbers. 3 True 4 -it isn’t great but with Scums wincon we are ok just now. if I have the right of it– Mafia is 4/21 they need 13 dead ( and not their own) Wolves are 3/21 they need 15 dead including 2 Mafia ( and not their own) 5. You didn’t preface with that ( that I noticed) - so your ‘we’ in the last bit was ‘we’ as Scum? ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/57 "2017-03-01T21:45:02Z")
Farewell Hooker, and Total. Two fewer vanilla reduces the pool for scum to hide in. > [@Lakai](#): > > Continuing the discussion from last Night, why would Koldanar fake a claim? Was he ever in danger of being lynched? > > Also, why is Mhaye still alive? Why is scum letting him live? There was interest in cultists claiming, it’s possible Koldanar saw it as the best time, a unforced claim is more likely to be accepted, but he can still be hiding something. As for MHaye, I don’t know, even if he doesn’t pose a threat, he’s as good as confirmed as possible, scum must have seen a bigger threat or target in Hooker: Hooker was advocating a mass claim, unvoted Cookies in case she was a bomb, had indicated that TexCat was his next target, and previously had voted Nanook - multiple potential reasons. > [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](#): > > Assume that he is. What does it mean? Unless you’re advocating for mass cultist lynch at this point, which still seems like a mistake barring some new info that seems incredibly unlikely to arrive. A mistake for the cultists, or for town? > [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > That’s a good point, but I really hate the idea of dismissing evidence with “the game might be written inconsistently” as the reasoning. > > What about having the same BACKGROUND as the Deacons? He’s a different role within the same faction, but there is no common BACKGROUND for the other three factions. I don’t have much of a problem with his role PM, it’s a little different but the tone is consistent, it’s the switch I think is really weird - informing a hidden third party of the existence of another hidden third party and that they are dangerous to a supposed survivor group? Isn’t everyone a danger to a survivor group? > [@Khameleon](#): > > Although something does seem fishy about **Koldanar’s** claim, I can’t help but think if it’s fake that he would have been more careful about it jiving with the other role descriptions. If you’re going to go to the trouble of attempting a fake role claim, you’re going to be meticulous about it’s wording. And this is what’s holding me back, why add the bit about Glados? Why edit the powers sections to be so fluffy, rather than comparing to the known role PMs, why mess up the claim? > [@Cygnus42](#): > > Odd choice for a night kill, isn’t it though? You’d think a claimed role like MHaye would get more attention, but he’s survived through a day kill and a night kill. > > Agree that Koldanar’s claim as the pope of LUTHA-town seems odd, but I’d hate to read too much into the wording. > > Surprised that Johnny B. is still alive - he’s taken over as the most prolific analyzer of things, a position that usually attracts scum attention. Does this mean you are somewhat suspicious of MHaye, Koldanar and Johnny B? > [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > This is one thing I want to look at today. Given scum have consistently been killing high volume posters, any high volume posters who have not been killed should be under greater scrutiny. Greater than the low volume posters? > [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > There are certainly prolific posters in that bunch, but scum have also done a hell of a job taking out our power roles. How many of those posters can you reasonably say are dead because of their post volume? And, to hawkeye, how many were killed by scum, vs Batman or Glados? > [@Koldanar](#): > > Hey, I can answer this at least. > > I was told by the mods that the target would receive note that something happened - Wait, so what happened on Day 3? Who did Ender investigate, who did you redirect him to, and what result did he get? Let’s look: > [@Mafia Reunion Day 6](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-6/779855/258): > > Day 3, I chose ToeJam again. I was still suspicious and figured if I came this far, I might as well close it out. And apparently this is where MHaye “caught” me. > > Good news everyone! He wasn’t a Wolf! I bet this surprises everyone at this point. > [@Mafia Reunion: Day Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/105): > > Night 3 - EnderW. I’m a little confused here, so I need to look back at his post - was he already the IJ then? (On re-read - he picked the day power, so at night nothing would happen). > [@Mafia Reunion: Day Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/259): > > Enderw24 -\> snfaulker (no result, again) Oh, so Ender investigated D3 and you redirected him N3 - seems like a really, really weak power, once per cycle, only for one phase, when so many roles are either passive or act in one phase only, but it also seems to add up. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/58 "2017-03-02T00:13:15Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > There was interest in cultists claiming, it’s possible Koldanar saw it as the best time, a unforced claim is more likely to be accepted, but he can still be hiding something. As for MHaye, I don’t know, even if he doesn’t pose a threat, he’s as good as confirmed as possible, scum must have seen a bigger threat or target in Hooker: Hooker was advocating a mass claim, unvoted Cookies in case she was a bomb, had indicated that TexCat was his next target, and previously had voted Nanook - multiple potential reasons. But, how do you see that making sense for Scum? > [@](#): > > ~~ > I don’t have much of a problem with his role PM, it’s a little different but the tone is consistent, it’s the switch I think is really weird - informing a hidden third party of the existence of another hidden third party and that they are dangerous to a supposed survivor group? Isn’t everyone a danger to a survivor group? > And this is what’s holding me back, why add the bit about Glados? Why edit the powers sections to be so fluffy, rather than comparing to the known role PMs, why mess up the claim? We had 0 zip knowledge of GLADoS prior to the switch claim so, yeah. > [@](#): > > ~~ > , but it also seems to add up. again, agreement here. ~~is snipping ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/59 "2017-03-02T01:11:51Z")
> [@Koldanar](#): > > Hey, I can answer this at least. > > I was told by the mods that the target would receive note that something happened - > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by storyteller0910 > > Quote: > > Originally Posted by Koldanar > > Ah, thanks! Question 2 : If I redirect someone that investigates, will they know they were redirected. > > > > Say the seer investigates person x. I redirect to person y - does the seer get a response saying “Person X is a \_\_\_\_”, or do they get “Person Y is a \_\_\_\_” > > They get “Your action was redirected; Person Y is a \_\_\_\_.” Though the color will be more fun than that 🙂 Thanks, that all makes me feel a little better about you, but I’ve got to ask, What were Questions 1 and 3? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/60 "2017-03-02T01:19:33Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > Thanks, that all makes me feel a little better about you, but I’ve got to ask, What were Questions 1 and 3? :dubious: I understand there has to be a Q1 prior to a Q2-- but where did I miss Q3? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068.md?page=4)