# Mafia Reunion: Day Eight **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [February 28, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068 "2017-02-28T22:07:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/61 "2017-03-02T01:36:54Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > I understand there has to be a Q1 prior to a Q2-- but where did I miss Q3? Why bother numbering them if there were only 2? Ask Opal or Meeko. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/62 "2017-03-02T02:17:15Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Farewell Hooker, and Total. Two fewer vanilla reduces the pool for scum to hide in. > There was interest in cultists claiming, it’s possible Koldanar saw it as the best time, a unforced claim is more likely to be accepted, but he can still be hiding something. As for MHaye, I don’t know, even if he doesn’t pose a threat, he’s as good as confirmed as possible, scum must have seen a bigger threat or target in Hooker: Hooker was advocating a mass claim, unvoted Cookies in case she was a bomb, had indicated that TexCat was his next target, and previously had voted Nanook - multiple potential reasons. I like this theory. It might be worthwhile to take another look at Hooker’s post history to see what scum was trying to stop him from doing. Otherwise why not go after Mhaye? There would be no reason not to unless there was someone more important to kill. Since the claim, we had scum kill Ender, Cyrs, and then Hooker. The Ender kill is understandable, but it’s odd that Mafia thought Cyrs was a better target and that the Wolves thought Hooker was more important. And why am I the only one who is asking this question - who did Mhaye watch yesterDay? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/63 "2017-03-02T04:31:05Z")
Prior to **Koldanar’s** claim, the cult was regarded as comprising 5 deacons, numbered 1 to 5. For someone to false claim to be a different type of cultist is a rather high risk gamble. If there were indeed 5 deacons, then number 5 would surely have spoken up by now. For these reasons I think that Koldanar is indeed a cultist. If there are any other deacons left, I suggest investigating Koldanar toNight and coming forward toMorrow. (Come forward toMorrow rather than toDay, as Mafia have shown they want to interfere with any confirmation attempt) ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/64 "2017-03-02T12:36:44Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > And why am I the only one who is asking this question - who did Mhaye watch yesterDay? Good question. I was somehow under the impression I had already answered this, but a quick check of my D08 posts shows I haven’t addressed it. I Watched LightFoot. Nobody bothered LightFoot during either Day or Night. Apologies for the delay. I was unsure whether it was due to the headaches my role gives the Mods, or alternatively whether I had been roleblocked or my off switch had been thrown. (If there is such a thing as an Off switch for my role; with reports from all seven Days making me doubt its existence). In general I give the Mods 24 hours to let me know what I did before checking (because of the aforementioned headaches) so there is likely to be some delay before the results are published. ---
**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/65 "2017-03-02T14:39:21Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > Why bother numbering them if there were only 2? Ask Opal or Meeko. Thanks, I was about to ask this, too! Question 1 was if I would know if my powers were successful - I got two different answers from two different mods. There was no question 3! ---
**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/66 "2017-03-02T14:42:22Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > The word cult is underlined. Perhaps for ready swapping if the message goes to a different group member. The SK is traditionally a role is supposed to kill us all, regardless of faction, right? Sorry, the cult part there was underlined by me to highlight it - I felt it added extra confirmation to my claim. Guiri - Yes, at that point, I felt that without pressure, it was better for me to claim at that point, and be 100% honest. I would have claimed sooner, had I not been worried about GladOS. And to be honest still, I’m ok not having the others claim at the moment, since I can see they would still be worried about some aggression, as you can see I’ve been getting some thrown my way, but only by one or two people so far. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/67 "2017-03-02T21:44:49Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > But, how do you see that making sense for Scum? I gave some reasons why scum would choose Hooker over MHaye. > [@Lakai](#): > > And why am I the only one who is asking this question - who did Mhaye watch yesterDay? There are few roles with active powers remaining. > [@Koldanar](#): > > Sorry, the cult part there was underlined by me to highlight it - I felt it added extra confirmation to my claim. This is just bad form. I mean editing a quote is frowned upon in general, but in game of mafia, even worse. It’s really, really, really weird that it kind of feels like end game, things are slowing down, but there are still 21 of us - many games begin with fewer players! I’ll reinstate my **Vote TexCat** I’d also be perfectly happy lynching Nesta - for barely avoiding the modkill, Plumpudding - has anyone done a WoW on him?, sinjin - seems to have given up hunting, and Zeriel - for the post-hoc vote reasoning. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/68 "2017-03-02T22:23:38Z")
Have I not voted yet? crap! **Vote Khameleon** You seem like a nice person IRL, but i still think you are scum-scuminy scum-scuminy scum scum-miny. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/69 "2017-03-02T22:29:31Z")
> [@Scathach](#): > > Well NAF explicitly said it wasn’t a portal reference so I guess not. NAF said he’s never played Portal so didn’t get that it was a Potal reference. What does all this mean? That the mods don’t care about the color as much as we do, it seems. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/70 "2017-03-02T22:45:48Z")
**vote khameleon** I’ve made my case across multiple days. I still think, in my heart of hearts, that Koldanar edited his role PM but that’s not provable. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/71 "2017-03-03T00:42:16Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > By all means, scrutinize away. I’m happy to address anything you’d like to bring up. > > However, I don’t think we can say that scum have “consistently been killing high volume posters.” I’d have to go back and look more closely, but I remember thinking that Paul’s death was the first one in a while that seemed to have been motivated mostly by post volume. You should feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. Sure. Whether my hypothesis is correct is another thing worth looking at. Thanks for putting the list together. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/72 "2017-03-03T01:08:39Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > Good question. I was somehow under the impression I had already answered this, but a quick check of my D08 posts shows I haven’t addressed it. > > I Watched LightFoot. > > Nobody bothered LightFoot during either Day or Night. > > Apologies for the delay. I was unsure whether it was due to the headaches my role gives the Mods, or alternatively whether I had been roleblocked or my off switch had been thrown. (If there is such a thing as an Off switch for my role; with reports from all seven Days making me doubt its existence). > > In general I give the Mods 24 hours to let me know what I did before checking (because of the aforementioned headaches) so there is likely to be some delay before the results are published. I don’t like who you are choosing to watch, but I can’t tell you who I think you should watch because then no one will visit that person. Why did you pick LightFoot. Why did you think LightFoot would have a visitor? ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/73 "2017-03-03T01:25:04Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > I’ll reinstate my **Vote TexCat** Is this because Hooker was suspicious of him and then died? Other people voted for TexCat at other times and they seem to still be alive. Why weren’t other TexCat voters killed? > [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > As for MHaye, I don’t know, even if he doesn’t pose a threat, he’s as good as confirmed as possible, scum must have seen a bigger threat or target in Hooker: Hooker was advocating a mass claim, unvoted Cookies in case she was a bomb, had indicated that TexCat was his next target, and previously had voted Nanook - multiple potential reasons. Looked into this some more, and apparently Hooker voted for Nanook on Day five. Who else voted for Nanook? Sachertorte. And what happened to Sachertorte? He was killed on Day five. Two people voted for Nanook. Two people are mysteriously murdered by the Mafia. Vote Nanook ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/74 "2017-03-03T01:26:58Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > Is this because Hooker was suspicious of him and then died? Other people voted for TexCat at other times and they seem to still be alive. Why weren’t other TexCat voters killed? > > Looked into this some more, and apparently Hooker voted for Nanook on Day five. Who else voted for Nanook? Sachertorte. And what happened to Sachertorte? He was killed on Day five. > > Two people voted for Nanook. Two people are mysteriously murdered by the Mafia. > > Vote Nanook Hmmmm…maybe, maybe… ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/75 "2017-03-03T02:24:55Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > Good question. I was somehow under the impression I had already answered this, but a quick check of my D08 posts shows I haven’t addressed it. > > I Watched LightFoot. > > Nobody bothered LightFoot during either Day or Night. > > . Consider this in future ( 'specially If I end up dead) The players you have watched are unlikely for you to watch again soon. This gives our killers a free shot the next cycle or two. Maybe save your reveals ( or at least the no data ones ) an extra cycle or so? and… I don’t remember if you have done this- but hold your results until the cycle is finished. - to not project your current target \* Now I need to research who has pushed you for results - you see how it could be used? ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/76 "2017-03-03T02:35:09Z")
> [@Koldanar](#): > > Sorry, the cult part there was underlined by me to highlight it - I felt it added extra confirmation to my claim. It is a sin\* to edit a quote with out posting in the same post that the edits were yours and why. - not really a sin but \* damn \* bad form. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/77 "2017-03-03T03:01:58Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > Consider this in future ( 'specially If I end up dead) The players you have watched are unlikely for you to watch again soon. This gives our killers a free shot the next cycle or two. > Maybe save your reveals ( or at least the no data ones ) an extra cycle or so? and… I don’t remember if you have done this- but hold your results until the cycle is finished. > > - to not project your current target \* > Now I need to research who has pushed you for results - you see how it could be used? I’ll save you the research. I pushed him both times. This request, however, to save reveals, sounds like you want him to withhold information until scum have a chance to kill him. I think Mhaye should reveal his targets as soon as possible since he is on borrowed time here. I mentioned before that I don’t think it’s a good idea to help Mhaye make a choice because it might alert scum to potential targets. But then I decided a little guidance might be more helpful. Here is a list of scum and their roles courtesy of Captain Klutz: Mafia (4): The Godfather - First kill of them will fail The Bodyguard - Night protect, but dies instead The Mook - One time use power of dead teammate The Enforcer - Roleblocker for following Day and Night Wolves (3): The Alpha Wolf - First kill of them will fail The Bloodhound - Day tracker The Trickster - Roleblicker for current Day and following Night Who could potentially use a power that Mhaye can catch? Not the Godfather or Alpha Wolf. They don’t visit anybody and let their pawns do all the work. Next we have The Bodyguard, who will only use his power to protect Mafia. Hard to predict who he or she will protect without knowing who is in the Mob. Next up is The Mook, who can use a dead teammate power, which means he can use The Hitman’s power or the Informant’s power. The Hitman is out since the town doesn’t have any more protectors, so The Mook will probably use The Informant’s power, if any. Finally, we have The Bloodhound (day tracker) and two role blockers. If you add The Mook with the Informants power, what do all these people have in common? Who are they going to target? ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/78 "2017-03-03T03:29:26Z")
Lightfoot, I have to say I’m on Lakai’s side on this. I don’t think Mhaye should wait to reveal his info, now that he is out. ---
**Author:** ![Khameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dec6dc/32.png) [@Khameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khameleon)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/79 "2017-03-03T03:52:37Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Have I not voted yet? crap! > > **Vote Khameleon** > > You seem like a nice person IRL, but i still think you are scum-scuminy scum-scuminy scum scum-miny. > [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > **vote khameleon** > > I’ve made my case across multiple days. I still think, in my heart of hearts, that Koldanar edited his role PM but that’s not provable. Nope nope and nope, and an extra nope! I know this is meaningless, but trust me, you do not want to do this. I also don’t know if I will even be around to defend myself as I am going away from tomorrow to Monday so will most likely miss EoD. I will try to check in but I don’t know if I will have access. ---
**Author:** ![Khameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dec6dc/32.png) [@Khameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khameleon)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068/80 "2017-03-03T03:56:33Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > Looked into this some more, and apparently Hooker voted for Nanook on Day five. Who else voted for Nanook? Sachertorte. And what happened to Sachertorte? He was killed on Day five. > > Two people voted for Nanook. Two people are mysteriously murdered by the Mafia. > > Vote Nanook I _trust_ **Lakai’s** instincts here so I will place a vote now in case I can’t get back before EoD. **Vote Nanook** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-eight/781068.md?page=5)