# Mafia Reunion - Day One

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 7, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577 "2017-01-07T22:01:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/21 "2017-01-08T00:18:58Z")

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Ok probably not the best start, but possibly a small net positive if it removes a player who wouldn’t be able to participate (and thus may have drawn suspicion) without wasting a lynch on it.

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/22 "2017-01-08T00:22:43Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> **Normal Phase** , thanks for the townie points. Is there anyway I can assist further?

Freely admitting I didn’t really pay attention to the Night Zero thread because I assumed it was just pregame fluff, but is this in reference to something I missed?

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/23 "2017-01-08T00:34:54Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> 36 bullet holes? The mayor had 37… of course, now we are down a townie.

Yes. It does seem like a statement that there are 36 Town roles. But the color doesn’t really make sense. Why would there be a bullet hole for each Town Player? I would make more sense that there is a bullet hole for each Mafia. It could be like a puzzle room or Myst where clues are just scattered about and don’t necessarily make logical sense, but it seems like a strange clue to give.

Also, I expect many more players to drop out and no-show. It happens all the time and with 55, now 54, roles, I expect a lot of missing players. The mods were smart to build in a waitlist rather than expand the game during signups, but still underestimated the rapid attrition of waning interest.

My irrelevant guess is that Dante G didn’t have a vanilla town role to begin with and Night One was a lot of scrambling by the mods to figure out what to do and ended up giving Dante G’s former role to a Vanilla then offing Dante G as vanilla. That’s just an irrelevant guess that doesn’t have any impact on the game proper, but now missing players will be even harder for the mods to deal with.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/24 "2017-01-08T00:39:38Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> Well, I didn’t, but then I also didn’t expect people to come in not a whole lot of posts later and choose to talk about editing in the strongest negative terms without casting judgment on me (in either direction) as part of that process. So is there a process at all, or is it just townie-sounding words? That’s where I’m at.
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> ETA the “later” (really).

What response are you thinking those people, who likely thought you were tweaking Pleonast and who were reading the Night 0 thread, were supposed to give?

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/25 "2017-01-08T01:05:01Z")

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Glad I saw this. I was coming here to check the Night 0 thread!

I’ll be doing the vast majority of my posts from Tapatalk (the iOS version, in case it matters). Does anyone know if it’s possible to multi-quote in it?  
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/26 "2017-01-08T01:11:39Z")

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> [@Scathach](#):
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> Freely admitting I didn’t really pay attention to the Night Zero thread because I assumed it was just pregame fluff, but is this in reference to something I missed?

I gave him townie points for finding a post of Johnny Bravo’s to be scummy.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/27 "2017-01-08T01:14:13Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> What response are you thinking those people, who likely thought you were tweaking Pleonast and who were reading the Night 0 thread, were supposed to give?

Oh I don’t know. Some sort of indication that they’d read it and realized it was something that by their own logic they ought to be taking a second look at.

I’ve now edited another post and that one wasn’t a joke. You think I’ll get voted for it?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/28 "2017-01-08T01:17:20Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> Oh I don’t know. Some sort of indication that they’d read it and realized it was something that by their own logic they ought to be taking a second look at.
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> I’ve now edited another post and that one wasn’t a joke. You think I’ll get voted for it?

You posted the equivalent of a “Tee hee! I’m editing now! Tee hee!” and you got mostly ignored. That’s pretty much the reaction I’d expect (and would hope for).

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/29 "2017-01-08T01:30:23Z")

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Oh heck, this is as good a starting vote as any.

**Vote: Normal**

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/30 "2017-01-08T01:32:03Z")

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> [@TexCat](#):
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> Oh heck, this is as good a starting vote as any.
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> **Vote: Normal**

(Bleached by me)

Any reason?

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/31 "2017-01-08T01:37:22Z")

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I thought it was obvious. For editing. Not because I think that Normal was necessarily hiding something with the edit, but it sets a bad precedent. I don’t approve of editing.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/32 "2017-01-08T02:02:53Z")

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[COLOR=“DarkRed”] **Oh, and please bleach quoted votes. It’s not required…but do it if you remember.** [/COLOR]

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/33 "2017-01-08T02:42:21Z")

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> [@sachertorte](#):
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> Also, I expect many more players to drop out and no-show. It happens all the time and with 55, now 54, roles, I expect a lot of missing players. The mods were smart to build in a waitlist rather than expand the game during signups, but still underestimated the rapid attrition of waning interest.

From my count the following players did not post to Night0 at all. \*\*

AngeloftheNorth  
Nesta  
Lakai  
DaphneBlack  
Hal Briston  
Winston Smith \*\*

I hope they are in the game.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/34 "2017-01-08T03:02:50Z")

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\*\*Vote Count:

Normal Phase(1): Texcat\*\*

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/35 "2017-01-08T03:02:54Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> From my count the following players did not post to Night0 at all. \*\*
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> AngeloftheNorth  
> Nesta  
> Lakai  
> DaphneBlack  
> Hal Briston  
> Winston Smith \*\*
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> I hope they are in the game.

I don’t see the point here. Either they’re playing or they aren’t. The game hadn’t actually started in Night Zero. This comes across as a bit too “helpful townie” to me.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/36 "2017-01-08T03:07:34Z")

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The silly edits were just that. Silly. But calling somebody scummy for ignoring your obvious night 0 silliness is suspect as hell.

**Vote normal phase**

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/37 "2017-01-08T03:11:17Z")

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Is it too early for poke votes? Let’s start at the top of Biotop’s list.

**Vote AngeloftheNorth**

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/38 "2017-01-08T03:17:33Z")

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> [@Scathach](#):
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> I don’t see the point here. Either they’re playing or they aren’t. The game hadn’t actually started in Night Zero. This comes across as a bit too “helpful townie” to me.

It makes a difference. I don’t advocate a lynch of the non-players because the mods will take care of it for us. But it would be nice to know whether these folks are going to show up or not.

If you don’t think the game had already started in Night0, I politely suggest you go back and read the thread.

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/39 "2017-01-08T03:20:55Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> It makes a difference. I don’t advocate a lynch of the non-players because the mods will take care of it for us. But it would be nice to know whether these folks are going to show up or not.
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> If you don’t think the game had already started in Night0, I politely suggest you go back and read the thread.

Any highlights I should look out for? I didn’t skip it for a lark, Night Zero on most games is usually fluff. Are there interactions you think are worth looking at or are you just being dismissive here?

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/40 "2017-01-08T03:36:11Z")

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You’ve got players discussing the merit of a Patsy claim, game mechanic debate, players debating whether a question to the mod is fake or not, overnight posters being scummy or not, 37, switches, the whole editing brouhaha… and these are just off the top of my head. You have player posts before role reveal and after. Even if you don’t find any scumminess in all this, I don’t see why you seem so proud for ignoring it.

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