# Mafia Reunion - Day One **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 7, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577 "2017-01-07T22:01:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/681 "2017-01-12T18:34:46Z")
> [@Hockey\_Monkey](#): > > “I think the fire is probably from the other team, or an arsonist.” > > The \*\*other \*\*team? So which are you, Mafia or Wolf? > > **Vote: Colby11** When you made this post, had you seen the other votes on Colby? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/682 "2017-01-12T18:39:43Z")
Hey all, I am dead now in my other game. I’ve seen some comments about Septimus here and there and his maybe playing like this as town. My own memory/experience has him playing in one game with me where he was likewise crazy scummy from day one; when we lynched him on day 2 or 3 guess what, he was scum. So there’s that. I’m still not sold on Colby. I don’t believe the slip was actually a slip, having read it again just now. His lack of participation overall is not a good look, but I’m not getting the same vibe from what he has posted as I got when I correctly read him scum last game on Giraffe. ToeJam is still scummy as heck to me, but we’ll see what further posts reveal. I will probably post a lot as I catch up properly; I apologize in advance for the spam. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/683 "2017-01-12T18:44:37Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > - This brings up a problem with Lynch-the-Loud vs Lynch-the-Lurker. Scum can hide and not get lynched on Day 1 by just not participating much. They won’t be getting dirty mixing it up in the mud pit. There are plenty of reasons to post cautiously and/or sparsely, and not all of them are Scum reasons. I don’t know what the solution is. But I do know, as the game progresses, we are going to have to start holding players accountable for lurking. This is my biggest issue with day one votes as well. Right now there are a handful of prolific posters and a whole bunch of people that have posted little. Admittedly, I’m one of the players that hasn’t posted much. I’m just not seeing much to post about now. This early in the game, I’m completely blind. It won’t be until we’ve got voting records and lynch results that we can start figuring out motivations. I do need to get a vote in day one. I think it’s important for everyone to vote and be accountable. **Vote Colby11** It wasn’t just the three words - but the three words, the content around those three words, and his reaction to the suspicion - he called it BS, and the fact that he’s been quiet quite since the incident. I’ve seen a ton of games where if people are quiet for long enough, something else comes up and the players move on. It’s looking like that’s his strategy. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/684 "2017-01-12T18:57:28Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > I’m left wondering, why do you _care_? > > It’s all nonsense and… what’s the old lingo?.. _fishing_. I care because I am trying to lure out information. You might see it as fishing. I disagree. IMO anything posted in the game is up for discussion. I didn’t ask for more information about power/no-power. I simply asked if I was correct in reading it as a soft claim. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/685 "2017-01-12T18:58:31Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > This right here, may be the coolest thing anyone has ever said about me. > > Love ya Ullz. Total mod-snuggling coming up: Right back at ya’ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/686 "2017-01-12T19:01:13Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > Is this confusion because not all are familiar with the difference between a claim and a soft claim? I am apparently ignorant of the difference. I thought the point was ambiguity. Can you please explain? ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/687 "2017-01-12T19:01:39Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > I really don’t like Total Lost trying to force a claim from septimus. And the way I see is - someone being forced to confirm if something is a soft claim makes the result a hard claim. I’m ok with soft claims, myself. I don’t think that was one, but I have been wrong lots more than I am right in this game. But if you don’t want to possibly distract Town protecters with a soft claim, how does forcing a harder claim not just paint a target? > > It’s weird to me, this “turn your possible soft claim into something more concrete.” > > \*\*Vote Total Lost. \*\* I very much dislike you using the word “force” in your first sentence. Very much. As for the rest - I think you should fact check a bit better in your next post. Where did I ask for something more concrete? Please quote me on that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/688 "2017-01-12T19:05:34Z")
By asking him to confirm a soft-claim, you are asking him to confirm a claim. As of yet, it’s still not a claim. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/689 "2017-01-12T19:06:11Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > I believe the second response was spurred by people raising questions about me due to asking questions. Questions, yes, that would be patently obvious if I were scum, and would only be necessary if I were town, but somehow were being construed as an attempt to illicitly declare myself as Town. > > Was it defensive, perhaps overly so? Sure. But is being defensive really enough for you to now send a vote my way? Seems dumb, but I’ve certainly based Day One votes on dumber things before. > > Speaking of which, for his Night Zero comment about wanting the game to be fair to scum > > **Vote: hawekeyeop** See, you’re doing it again, though, sort of subtly twisting the accusation against you to your advantage. It’s not defensiveness that’s the issue, it’s the attack on your accusers’ credibility that is. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/690 "2017-01-12T19:08:38Z")
**♩♩ [SIZE=“4”][COLOR=“Purple”]Don’t Lynch ♫ Me. ♩♪ I’m the ♩♩ E. M. T. ♬♬ ![/COLOR][/SIZE]** ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/691 "2017-01-12T19:09:56Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > So. **Pleonast.** > > You come into the thread and immediately claim Vanilla Town, which is weird but whatever. Then you immediately start talking about what you feel would be the best strategy _for scum._ A strategy which, by definition, couldn’t be discussed on the scum boards. > > You don’t do this in the context of offering any ideas about how Town might counter this. You just say “Oh noes, if scum think of doing\* this\* not-particularly-obvious thing, we’re all screwed!” > > Why, as Town, would you do that? I like this post. I know, Pleo’s thing is ludicrous. It may just be Pleo being Pleo. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/692 "2017-01-12T19:11:03Z")
> [@Plumpudding](#): > > By asking him to confirm a soft-claim, you are asking him to confirm a claim. As of yet, it’s still not a claim. Yeah. Only the difference is I didn’t ask him to confirm. I asked him if he meant for us to read the post as a soft claim. He could have answered with a no. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/693 "2017-01-12T19:14:36Z")
Better leave that up to imagination? That’s why you were accused of fishing for information, by trying to get information out of him, making him come out and give you a concrete answer on it being a claim or not. _ignoring septimus for the moment:smack:_ ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/694 "2017-01-12T19:16:54Z")
> [@Captain\_Klutz](#): > > I think the Patsy should not immediately claim. There is a reasonable chance of scum cross kills, but that chance greatly diminishes if there are obvious targets for them. This post is so incredibly towny to me. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/695 "2017-01-12T19:17:18Z")
> [@Plumpudding](#): > > by trying to get information out of him This game really changed while I was away 😮 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/696 "2017-01-12T19:18:42Z")
You’ve never heard of fishing, in relation to claims? ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/697 "2017-01-12T19:20:43Z")
You seemed to be trying to cement a claim, Day 1, possibly drawing a kill of a power role, when it was not clear at all if it was a claim or not, and probably best left at that. Or am I mistaken? ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/698 "2017-01-12T19:21:47Z")
> [@Plumpudding](#): > > You seemed to be trying to cement a claim, Day 1, possibly drawing a kill of a power role, when it was not clear at all if it was a claim or not, and probably best left at that\*. Or am I mistaken? - best left at that _for now_. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/699 "2017-01-12T19:23:36Z")
> [@Plumpudding](#): > > You’ve never heard of fishing, in relation to claims? So you are sure it was a claim? Why is that? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/700 "2017-01-12T19:24:47Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > I very much dislike you using the word “force” in your first sentence. Very much. > > As for the rest - I think you should fact check a bit better in your next post. > > Where did I ask for something more concrete? Please quote me on that. > > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Do you not see " yes that was meant as a soft claim" or no it wasn’t is " more concrete" than a soft claim itself? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577.md?page=36)