# Mafia Reunion - Day One **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 7, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577 "2017-01-07T22:01:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 37
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/721 "2017-01-12T20:49:57Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Whoa, NormalPhase is NOT a woman? Mind blown. So who’s Renata? No, I totally am on both counts. I have no idea what Total is thinking. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/722 "2017-01-12T20:52:32Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > I’m not getting a good feeling about the attention that’s being paid to **Total Lost’s** apparent waterboarding of **septimus**. Here’s the thing: just because somebody asks you a question, doesn’t mean you have to actually \*answer \*it…but it does no good to ignore it completely. > > The question was “are you soft-claiming powers here?” I don’t see anything so egregious about the inquiry; septimus’ post could be seen to imply that he might have something worth claiming. If he didn’t want to answer the question, he could simply have said “I’m not going to answer that question”. That’s what I would have done in his position (actually, I probably would have said something a bit more snarky, but you get the drift). That would have been that. By refusing to respond, and then changing the original intent of the question, all he did was open himself up to additional querying, and the rest of us to endless discussion. > > I think the whole thing is a bunch of nothing. > > Which brings me to… > > _(decolorized for your protection)_ > > Are you hard-claiming powers here? 😃 > But seriously, what the ever-loving fuck? I don’t remember a damn one of the roles right now. Is that actually one of them? ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/723 "2017-01-12T20:54:11Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > I am in a position I never expected to be in early in this game, of being caught up and feeling I have a reasonably good handle on what is going on! > > On the one hand it is good that the thread is a relatively manageable size, on the other hand it means that we have a lot of lurkers. By my count we have 16 alleged players who have posted 5 times or less, meaning less than one post per RL day. I do think that scum are probably overrepresented in that group, but with such a large group of lurkers, it’s hard to single out one to vote for…indeed, I would find anyone choosing to pick on a particular one of them to be mildly suspicious. > > With undying respect for the autonomy of power roles, I would suggest that the lurker pool might be a good place for our Vig to direct his or her attention. Heck, I’ll even make the same suggestion to the scum…killing there might give you an above average chance of hitting a member of the other scum team. At the very least, it will prevent you from killing me!😃 Actually 20 players with 5 posts or less. **Sario has not posted toDay, nor has MHaye**. The \*\*Winston Smith \*\* and \*\*Daphne Black \*\* duo have not posted at all – Day or Night (maybe they ran off together? :p) ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/724 "2017-01-12T20:56:19Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > I’m not getting a good feeling about the attention that’s being paid to **Total Lost’s** apparent waterboarding of **septimus**. Here’s the thing: just because somebody asks you a question, doesn’t mean you have to actually \*answer \*it…but it does no good to ignore it completely. > > The question was “are you soft-claiming powers here?” I don’t see anything so egregious about the inquiry; septimus’ post could be seen to imply that he might have something worth claiming. If he didn’t want to answer the question, he could simply have said “I’m not going to answer that question”. That’s what I would have done in his position (actually, I probably would have said something a bit more snarky, but you get the drift). That would have been that. By refusing to respond, and then changing the original intent of the question, all he did was open himself up to additional querying, and the rest of us to endless discussion. I dunno. I feel that if he had said “I’m not going to answer that question” that he would then be under attack for not answering the question. I can fault him for the original statement, and I can sure fault him for the hard claim, but I can also feel that once he made the mistake he had no way out if someone was going to chase it. And I feel there was no reason for TL to chase it. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/725 "2017-01-12T21:00:42Z")
Yeah, I know I’ll catch a vote or two for being helpful, but info helps Town. Voting record for D1 so far: 029: TexCat \> Normal Phase 036: Johnny Bravo \> Normal Phase 037: snfaulkner \> AngeloftheNorth 041: Meeko \> Johnny Bravo 047: Captain Klutz \> ToeJam 085: Septimus \> Pleonast 091: TexCat X Normal Phase 091: TexCat \> Colby11 094: Drain Bead \> Meeko 097: AngeloftheNorth \> Drain Bead 101: GuiriEnEspanol \> Colby11 102: Normal Phase \> Boozahol Squid, P.I. 106: Septimus X Pleonast 106: Septimus \> Colby11 113: Sunny Daze \> ToeJam 130: Meeko X Johnny Bravo 130: Meeko \> Colby11 132: ToeJam \> Colby11 147: Normal Phase X Boozahol Squid, P.I. 147: Normal Phase \> ToeJam 152: Hockey Monkey \> Colby11 154: Lakai \> Colby11 157: snfaulkner X AngeloftheNorth 147: snfaulkner \> Boozahol Squid, P.I. 162: Suburban Plankton \> Colby11 183: Chronos \> jsgoddess 184: HookerChemical \> ToeJam 188: Boozahol Squid, P.I. \> Hawkeyeop 195: Hoopy Frood \> Captain Klutz 200: sinjin \> ToeJam 231: Septimus X Colby11 241: Pleonast \> Normal Phase 243: Enderw24 \> Septimus 249: DiggitCamara \> Colby11 257: Inner Stickler \> Lakai 259: bufftabby \> Johnny Bravo 264: DiggitCamara X Colby11 264: DiggitCamara \> snfaulkner 273: Total Lost \> Septimus 295: snfaulkner X Boozahol Squid, P.I. 295: snfaulkner \> Lakai 319: Red Skeezix \> Lakai 322: Normal Phase X ToeJam 322: Normal Phase \> Septimus 335: Colby11 \> Septimus 347: Captain Klutz X ToeJam 347: Captain Klutz \> Septimus 350: Hawkeyeop \> Colby11 412: Plumpudding \> Biotop 413: Zeriel \> AngeloftheNorth 455: Nanook of the North Shore \> Colby11 470: Plumpudding X Biotop 472: Plumpudding \> Prof. Pepperwinkle 480: Hoopy Frood X Captain Klutz 480: Hoopy Frood \> Septimus 488: Septimus \> Johnny Bravo 493: Total Lost X Septimus 493: Total Lost \> AngeloftheNorth 503: jsgoddess \> AngeloftheNorth 511: Pleonast X Normal Phase 511: Pleonast \> Septimus 528: Prof. Pepperwinkle \> Enderw24 534: Septimus \> ToeJam 540: Boozahol Squid, P.I. X Hawkeyeop 541: Suburban Plankton X Colby11 541: Suburban Plankton \> Plumpudding 542: AngeloftheNorth X Drain Bead 542: AngeloftheNorth \> Boozahol Squid, P.I. 545: Prof. Pepperwinkle X Enderw24 545: Prof. Pepperwinkle \> Koldanar 546: Boozahol Squid, P.I. \> AngeloftheNorth 647: Plumpudding X Prof. Pepperwinkle 647: Plumpudding \> Lakai 659: Septimus X ToeJam 659: Septimus \> Prof. Pepperwinkle 679: raventhief \> Total Lost 683: brewha \> Colby11 709: Biotop \> Boozahol Squid, P.I. 714: Normal Phase X Septimus 716: jsgoddess X AngeloftheNorth 716: jsgoddess \> Total Lost ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/726 "2017-01-12T21:01:43Z")
Oh, and in case you need a key: \> = voted for; X = unvoted. The first number is the post number. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/727 "2017-01-12T21:04:13Z")
No one posted a vote count yet? We are falling down sorry. I did this quickly but I think it’s accurate. I have no doubt you will let me know if it’s not. **DAY ONE VOTE COUNT** As a quick reminder - there are no powers, hidden or open, that can affect the vote count. If you see an apparent discrepancy, it’s the result of moderator error. **colby11** (9 votes) - Texcat (91), Guiri (101), Meeko (130), ToeJam (132), Hockey Monkey (152), Lakai (154), Hawkeye(350), Nanook(455), beewha (683 **septimus** (5 votes) - Enderw24 (243), Colby(335), Captain Klutz(347), Hoopy(480), Pleonast (511) **ToeJam** (4 votes) - Sunny Daze (113), Hooker Chemical (184), sinjin (200), Sachertorte (534) **Angelofthenorth** (4 votes) - Zeriel(413), TotalLost(492), Boozahol Squid PI (546), jsgoddess (503) **Lakai** (4 votes) - Inner Stickler (257), snfaulkner (295), RedSkeeziz(319), Plumpudding(647) **Boozahol Squid PI** (2 votes) - AngeloftheNorth (542), Biotop (709) ## **Total Lost** (2 vote) - raventhief (679), jsgoddess (716) PLAYERS WITH 1 VOTE: **Meeko** (1 vote) - Drain Bead (94) **Jsgoddess** (1 vote) - Chronos (183) **snfaulkner** (1 vote) - diggitcamera (264) **Normal Phase** (1 vote) - Johnny Bravo (36), **Koldanar** (1 vote) - Professor Pepperwinkle (545), **Plumbpudding** (1 vote) - Suburban Plankton (541), \*\*Prof. Pepperwinkle \*\* (1 vote) - septimus (659) **Johnny Bravo** (1 votes) - bufftabby (259) Your witty saying could be featured here. Ask me how! ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/728 "2017-01-12T21:08:53Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > [snip] > **Plumbpudding** (1 vote) - Suburban Plankton (541), > [snip][/COLOR] My name is _Plumpudding_, thank you very much. ---
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/729 "2017-01-12T21:10:14Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Which rules are you reading? Spreading misinformation? “Some third party players may have exclusive win conditions (ie, win conditions that preclude Town and/or Scum wins), while others may be nonexclusive (that is, able to win with any side).” It’s right in the rules for win conditions. “Win Conditions Win conditions will be checked in the following order every Dawn and every Dusk: Town Wins! if all 14 Scum players are dead. Mafia Wins! if the total number of living Mafia is greater than or equal to 50% of the total population AND greater than the number of living Wolves. Wolves Win! if the total number of living Wolves is greater than or equal to 50% of the total population AND greater than the number of living Mafia. Third party win conditions are checked after checking all three of the above. **Thus, a Town win supersedes an exclusive third party win even if both occur simultaneously**.” My bolding. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/730 "2017-01-12T21:15:43Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > **Vote Total Lost** for the septimus hounding which struck me wrong and which may have led to what we have now which is a too-early claim (at least, that’s how it strikes me). You can think what you like about \*\*Total’s \*\*motivation, but it was not her actions which caused \*\*septimus \*\*to claim. > [@sachertorte](#): > > I was on Total Lost for her handling of a possible ‘soft claim,’ but septimus’s actual claim is NOT Total Lost’s fault. septimus was free to not claim if he so chose. Really, it was the VOTES that pushed septimus to claim, if anything. But choosing to claim is totally on septimus. Was he even in the lead? My recollection is that Colby was in the lead. But septimus did warn us that he would claim early since he would not be around for End of Day. It wasn’t the votes that cause him to claim either. At the point he claimed, **Colby** had 9 votes, septimus had 6. Not exactly a runaway, but not a situation that calls for a claim by the runner-up. And we’re nowhere near the End of Day; we still have as of this post just under 2 days and 23 hours. That’s plenty of time for a claim, if one were needed, which at this point it clearly isn’t. There was no ‘in game’ reason for septimus to claim at that point. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/731 "2017-01-12T21:19:03Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > FOS raventhief Would you mind expanding on that a bit? My only thoughts on \*\*raventhief \*\*at the moment is that they seemed to pop in from nowhere to comment (and vote) on **Total Lost** …and that’s pretty much it. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/732 "2017-01-12T21:29:38Z")
> [@Plumpudding](#): > > My name is _Plumpudding_, thank you very much. :dubious: It’s written in Dark Blue. I think that makes me the correct one. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/733 "2017-01-12T21:44:50Z")
Wait so can someone answer me because I don’t have the list of roles – is EMT actually one of them? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/734 "2017-01-12T21:46:04Z")
I mean, it’s got to be the way you’re all talking about it, but jeez. ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/735 "2017-01-12T21:48:19Z")
> [@](#): > > Welcome to the game; you are The EMT > > ALIGNMENT: Town > YOU WIN if at any checkpoint (Dawn or Dusk) all 14 Scum players (Wolves + Mafia) are dead. > > BACKGROUND: You are a first responder. You get there before anyone else can and patch people up so that they don’t die. You are quick on your feet and handy with the stitches. You even know when and how to administer liquid adrenaline to restart a stopped heart. In short, you are a handy person to have around. Try not to die too quickly. > > POWERS: Each Day you may target one player; that player will be safe from Day kills (but not from lynches) for that Day. You can just sit around checking your own pulse, I suppose, but anyone else is fair game for protection too. Go forth and save some lives, and also lynch people! Here you go. For future reference: [Mafia Reunion Role PM's Public - Google Docs](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XVWkU49fRxu3ukJ6EVZ8Q11VrC9JjW9LHnaIMlgi-zU/edit) ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/736 "2017-01-12T21:51:52Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > NAF: Is similar to Morgan Freeman in my head. Very calm and very intense with a bit of humor as well Suckup! 😛 **unvote septimus** So we have a claimed doc. I question the timing a bit. Seems early for someone whose merely in second place. Then again, he did say he might claim a bit early due to the weekend. And I can understand. After all, I mentioned I’d be unlikely to participate much this weekend either, and I was one of the votes on him. If Colby were to claim, and everyone jumped to septimus, he might not be around to claim either. If he was in first place, I’d view this claim (regardless of its merits) as a pro-town play. It’s usually to scum’s advantage to false claim later in the Day so as to send everyone scrambling for new targets. This gives those of us on the septimus train some time to find someone else. septimus is also on record now. If he lives a long time, I think we can take a second look, but for now, we should take it at face value. If it _is_ fake, the real EMT should not counterclaim at this point barring a really good reason to do so. I’m going to have to reread a few things before I place another vote. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/737 "2017-01-12T21:53:05Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Whoa, another observer here! > Oh noes, Dante is dead > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19903896&postcount=2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19903896&postcount=2) > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19903931&postcount=8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19903931&postcount=8) > There are non-participants > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19904394&postcount=33](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19904394&postcount=33) > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19904449&postcount=38](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19904449&postcount=38) > Stuff is happening all around me > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19904471&postcount=40](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19904471&postcount=40) > It’s so hard to read > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19909056&postcount=333](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19909056&postcount=333) > People have lives > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19909259&postcount=340](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19909259&postcount=340) > Sleep tight > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19909261&postcount=341](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19909261&postcount=341) > Creepy, me? It’s right there in their profile > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19909736&postcount=361](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19909736&postcount=361) > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19909809&postcount=367](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19909809&postcount=367) Guiri sarcasm is the best. You’re probably still scum, though. /good player paranoia Guiri, you mentioned Pleonast and hot air in this same post, what is your read on him right now? ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/738 "2017-01-12T21:54:23Z")
> [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](#): > > It’s right in the rules for win conditions. > > “Win Conditions > Win conditions will be checked in the following order every Dawn and every Dusk: > Town Wins! if all 14 Scum players are dead. > Mafia Wins! if the total number of living Mafia is greater than or equal to 50% of the total population AND greater than the number of living Wolves. > Wolves Win! if the total number of living Wolves is greater than or equal to 50% of the total population AND greater than the number of living Mafia. > Third party win conditions are checked after checking all three of the above. **Thus, a Town win supersedes an exclusive third party win even if both occur simultaneously**.” > > My bolding. That only applies when town has won. 3rd parties can steal the win anytime before that, you seemed to say that they can never steal a win from town - which really would mean we can ignore them. > [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](#): > > I think the most important part of the third parties is the win condition as stated in the rules. That is, they cannot steal a win from town. If we lynch the last scum, town wins, full stop. Maybe third parties also win, but they can’t stop town. So that’s a big pressure taken off end game, which I’ve seen be derailed by the need to hunt third parties over scum to make sure they don’t win steal. > [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Would you mind expanding on that a bit? > > My only thoughts on \*\*raventhief \*\*at the moment is that they seemed to pop in from nowhere to comment (and vote) on **Total Lost** …and that’s pretty much it. I’d previously noticed his series of one liners, and then saw another one in [#614](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19913399&postcount=614) - think he’s active lurking, I hadn’t even got to the vote on Total when I posted that. > [@septimus](#): > > A year and a half ago (That long? :eek: Has time sped up dramatically? Is this an effect of the Dark-Energy Era??? :smack: ) I played in [a Mafia Game here at SDMB](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=762223). I was fairly active Day 1 and ended up Lynched. **Johnny Bravo** started the wagon against me in that game, first with a FOS, later with a vote. He turned out to be Scum: That’s why I’m keeping a suspicious eye on his FOS’ing in this game. In the Game where I was misLynched Day 1, I was the Town Doctor. ☹ The votes against me came during the final minutes (there was a 6-6 tie at 11:57); I claimed Doctor with about 2 minutes to spare, but wasn’t rescued. (Town did end up winning the game; I don’t know if the misLynch record against me helped.) What are the odds? > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Yeah, I know I’ll catch a vote or two for being helpful, but info helps Town. Option 1: for some reason you decided to go an note down all the votes and unvotes, maybe you were looking for a trend, maybe you noticed some suspicious behavior, so you went, spent some time writing it all down, and then came up with nothing, may as well post it to save others the bother. Option 2: a couple of players commented that the mods don’t include unvotes in their vote count, that really sucks, but hey, you’ve got plenty of free time, or have programed a robot to scan the thread for votes, and so hey presto, here you go, just being a helpful townie. Option 3: you’re scum and really struggling to find people suspicious but need to participate with more than one liners, how can you look like you’re helping hunt scum? Post a list of votes but lampshade it by noting how scummy it looks. The problem is not being helpful, it’s the motivation - like posting a WoW on a player without making any statement regarding their scummitude. > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > No, I totally am on both counts. I have no idea what Total is thinking. OK, somewhat similar to Total’s voices in her head, I have a visual representation (totally PG) of you that suddenly felt really wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/739 "2017-01-12T21:55:50Z")
> [@Plumpudding](#): > > Here you go. For future reference: [Mafia Reunion Role PM's Public - Google Docs](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XVWkU49fRxu3ukJ6EVZ8Q11VrC9JjW9LHnaIMlgi-zU/edit) Thank you, bookmarked now. I can hardly wait until I get to this point in catching up. 😕 Septimus, why. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/740 "2017-01-12T21:56:40Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Wait so can someone answer me because I don’t have the list of roles – is EMT actually one of them? Yes. Last night I put this together for myself and it might be useful to others as well. It opens up some questions. Spoilered for length: [spoiler]Blockers **The Basement-Based Tinkerer:** “This device will block the Consigliere and Omega Wolf from taking any action at all during the next Day-Night Cycle. This works correctly even if you do not know the identities of either player” **The Zoning Inspector:** Day blocker of certain active powers **The Leprechaun:** Night blocker of certain active powers **The Godfather:** investigation blocker (self) affects Seer and Homicide Detective **The Enforcer:** blocks for a Night and the subsequent Day **The Consigliere:** cancels all role blocks and protections for one Night and subsequent Day **The Alpha:** investigation blocker (self) affects Seer and Homicide Detective **The Trickster:** blocks for a Day and the subsequent Night **The Omega:** cancels all role blocks and protections for one Day and subsequent Night Switching (should this be considered a “block” skill?) **The Basement-Based Tinkerer:** once per game can reset all switches to their default “on”; superseded by Consigliere (and Omega?) **The Consigliere:** once per game can reset all switches to “off” **The Omega:** once per game can reset all switches to “off” Protectors **The EMT:** Day doc; can self-protect; if Outrider targets target, kills EMT; what happens if protected? **Doctor Seward:** Night doc; can self-protect; if Hitman targets target, kills Doctor Seward; what happens if protected? **The Wizard:** Day or Night doc 7 times (will die after 7th); can self-protect (I think?); unclear if Hitman and Outrider are a threat? **The Godfather:** one passive self-protect **The Bodyguard:** Night protect; will die if target targeted for kill; unclear (and probably unimportant) if can be protected from ricochet **The Alpha:** one passive self-protect **The Beta:** Day protect; will die if target targeted for kill; unclear (and probably unimportant) if can be protected from ricochet Observers \*\*The Watcher: \*\*“watch a target of your choice… anyone targets them during that cycle, you will know who it is”; initiated by Day, watch whole Day/Night cycle **The Basement-Based Tinkerer:** “Once per game, you can access the records of these cameras to discern what a (living or dead) target of your choice did during the previous Day-Night cycle.” **The Seer:** “investigate any player and will receive a result of either “Town,” “Scum (Wolf or Mafia),” or “Third Party”; can be misled; once per Night (Night version of Homicide Detective) **The Homicide Detective:** “investigate any player and will receive a result of either “Town,” “Scum (Wolf or Mafia),” or “Third Party”; can be misled; once per Day (Day version of Seer) \*\*The Investigative Journalist: \*\*“target any player for investigation. You must explicitly state whether you are looking for a Wolf or for a Mafiosi; you cannot detect third parties in any case. Your investigation will produce a simple “yes” or “no” answer”; cannot be misled; once per Day/Night cycle **The Informant:** “Once per Night, you may target a player and learn what (s)he does during that Night” **The Consigliere:** Night watcher (once) can see who targets one player **The Bloodhound:** “Once per Day, you may target a player and learn what (s)he does during that Day.” **The Omega:** Day watcher (once) can see who targets one player Killers **The Patsy:** “one reciprocal kill at your own discretion” **Alternate Universe Batman:** mandatory vig; Night; cannot suicide **Mafia Team:** factional Day kill **Wolves Team:** factional Night kill **The Hitman:** Night kill; will ricochet and hit protector (both EMT and Doctor Seward mentioned in PM, but only Doctor Seward would be protecting at Night); presume can hit the Wizard, the Bodyguard (duplicative), and the Beta (duplicative) **The Outrider:** Day kill; will ricochet and hit protector (both EMT and Doctor Seward mentioned in PM, but only EMT would be protecting during Day); presume can hit the Wizard, the Bodyguard (duplicative), and the Beta (duplicative) Usurpers **The Understudy:** may assume the identity and power of any Town player who dies on Day 1 or Night 1 **The Mook:** one-time only ability to use the unspent active power of a dead team-mate **The Whelp:** one-time only ability to use the unspent active power of a dead team-mate [/spoiler] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577.md?page=36) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577.md?page=38)