# Mafia Reunion - Day One **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 7, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577 "2017-01-07T22:01:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/81 "2017-01-08T07:15:45Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > WTH happened with Dante? > > Do we really spend Day/Night 1 voting randomly, as some seem to be doing? Or are we supposed to be analyzing the behavior of our fellows and acting accordingly? > > I don’t have the lingo down yet, but I’ve noted folks that babble/fluff; folks that are oddly defensive about what exactly (because we just started); folks that are really focused on the whole editing thing; and a whole bunch of quiet, lurking folks who are just gathering data. I think the last group is the dangerous one. > > So which is it: Day 1 is a dart throw (so heads down and hope the crowd forgets you) or Day 1 is based on some kind of “logic” (so get in there and throw elbows)? I usually vote day one based on “tone” – something that feels off, or self-conscious, or forced in one way or another. Often it’s difficult to explain, the kind of thing that when you’re right, the mafia player you nailed is all like “your reasons sucked, I was no different than I always am!” But then somehow you got it right anyway. Sometimes you can get someone based on faulty logic, some flaw in the way they’re thinking or playing. Sometimes you can get them for being too ‘sheepy’, just copying other players’ reads and going with the flow to try to avoid controversy. Some scum player will avoid reads almost entirely because they have trouble making up false cases – that may be less common in a game like this one, but could still happen. In the end, you guess. Some people are better at it than others. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/82 "2017-01-08T07:20:39Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > \*\* Colby \*\* > I do suggest you check the [roles.doc](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XVWkU49fRxu3ukJ6EVZ8Q11VrC9JjW9LHnaIMlgi-zU/edit) here is the link-since it seems you missed the N0 discussions related to it. _( I included the link for ease of access)_ > > easy to do with the volume of posts > Speaking of N0- I received my PM quite late in the Night and I can only wager others did too, so I am disregarding my leans from the Night thread Yeah, that is a bit of a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/83 "2017-01-08T07:34:30Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Oh really? Do tell why. Your post was non-substantive and it was Night 0. Calling me out for not calling **you** out is like saying a police officer is a dirty cop for not arresting a kid with a water gun. It looks to me like you were fishing for a reason to find somebody scummy. Either for jumping on you about your editing (“come on guys, I was clearly joking here, what kind of person votes based on an obvious joke post?”) or for not jumping on you about your editing (which is what you did). ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/84 "2017-01-08T07:37:21Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > [Here is a countdown to the end of Day 1.](https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/election?iso=20170115T15&p0=77&msg=End+of+Day+1+Mafia+Reunion&font=cursive) Unrelated, but this is neat. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/85 "2017-01-08T08:07:33Z")
> [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/405): > > I see little benefit and plenty of risks in discussing what town roles should or should not do. Let each player decide the best course for their own role. Remember, at least a quarter of current players have win conditions in opposition to ours. Do not take advice from anyone not confirmed as Town. Reread the second sentence of this paragraph. > > If you feel a need to discuss roles, let’s focus on what the Scum roles might do. What tactics and gambits should we be prepared for. How Mafia and Wolves might try to coordinate. How third parties might try to. > > And speaking of coordination, I’ll consider post editing extremely suspicious. Mafia, Wolves, and Third Parties have no easy means to coordinate. Putting a message in a post when another player is known to be online and then editing it before anyone else is likely to see it is a possible gambit. I disagree with the 1st paragraph. Town Powers might want advice, but can’t ask for it directly. Yes, Scum might try to give bad advice but their bad advice will be attacked and put themselves in jeopardy. The 2nd paragraph may be good advice, but runs the risk of alerting Scum to countermeasures we may try. The 3rd paragraph seems odd given that off-thread communication is allowed at all times. Cautious players will refresh their private chatrooms before posting in-game. So it sounds like Pleonast is talking about a Wolf trying to send a message to a Mafia, or vice versa. Is that right? It still seems very odd. With so many players it’s more likely that a different player would see the secret message than it’s intended recipient. All in all, this post by Pleonast seems weird enough to merit an early loose vote. **Vote Pleonast** ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/86 "2017-01-08T09:51:37Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Oh I don’t know. Some sort of indication that they’d read it and realized it was something that by their own logic they ought to be taking a second look at. > > I’ve now edited another post and that one wasn’t a joke. You think I’ll get voted for it? I never said that only scum will edit - and even pointed out that the mods edit. To subtle implicate that mod-editing is prove that it’s not a scum-tell alone. But - having pointed that out - to me editing IS trying to hide or remove something posted. No matter what that something was. It might be a “harmless” code-fix. But what ever it was - editing is concealing the original post from other players. > [@Scathach](#): > > I don’t see the point here. Either they’re playing or they aren’t. The game hadn’t actually started in Night Zero. This comes across as a bit too “helpful townie” to me. I do think the last 100 post or so of N0 is part of this game. And I for one might quote from the thread D1 and ask some players about their actions in the Night. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/87 "2017-01-08T10:37:14Z")
This is all from Night 0: > [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/148): > > I like the way you subtly indicated that you are one of “us”, and not one of “the bad guys”, here. Very clever. > > I’ll be keeping a close eye on you. > > Ahhh…it’s just like riding a bike, this game… > [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/195): > > I don’t think so. I don’t particularly care which scum team wins, so I think it’s in our best interest to look at this game, to start with, as having a 14 man scum team with two kills. As time goes on, especially if the Detective can out multiple scum at once, we might have the luxury of trying to pick on one faction over another based on who’s left. We might also be in the situation of having to leave known scum alive for a while in order to prevent the other faction from winning (possibly: I haven’t really thought enough about the wincons enough yet to determine if there is a chance where we might have to team up with one scumteam to beat the other) > [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/229): > > So this made me think of what’s going on in the background, and why we wouldn’t be able to start yet. The only thing I can think of is setting up scum/3rd Party boards. I’m not very confident that I’ll get an answer to this, but I can’t see how it can hurt to ask if the Wolves and Mob are allowed to conspire before the game start. > > \*\* Do the Scum get to canoodle on Night Zero? \*\* > [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/238): > > Hm.:dubious: Derpclear attempt? I will throw out the ceremonial first FOS of the game! > > (Glossary: Derpclear: When a player appears Town (truly or otherwise) by asking a question that Scum would already know the answer to). Link to the post with the quote still in it: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19899161&postcount=238](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19899161&postcount=238) > [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/246): > > Nonsense. Announcing that I was going to vote for hawkeyepoop up above was clearly a FOS equivalent. > [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/255): > > This made me :dubious: too. I second your FOS on Squid. Link to the post with the quote still in it: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19899443&postcount=255](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19899443&postcount=255) > [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/274): > > Both of you are twerps, then. It’s a basic fact that every person in this game presents themselves as Town. You don’t need to claim vanilla town (unless you’re **Idle** , because [tradition](https://youtu.be/sWSoYCetG6A?t=6)!) because it’s understood that everyone comes at this game from that viewpoint. Trying to suss out information isn’t some coy way of pretending to be a Townie, it’s the most pro-Town thing you can do. Information is what wins these games, and the Town starts with the least of it. So you and Thing can finger me all you want (yeah, yeah) but I’d like to know exactly what you’re trying to add to the conversation yourself. > [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/275): > > It just seems that the question you asked the mods seemed to have a pretty obvious answer (assuming you’ve played more than I have). I know I have asked such mod questions as scum when I already knew the answer. > > And I bring a masterclass on sleuthing to the conversation. Ok, not really. More likely comic relief and/or blithering idiocy depending on your POV. > [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/276): > > I’ve definitely played games where Night Zero had no plotting allowed by scum. It can make a big deal, especially in games where there are experienced players mixed with newbies, and even moreso in games where players are familiar with each other. > [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/390): > > Well, since you did… > Agreed on Toejam and Boozy. Septimus and Nanook seem to fit into that limbo state, and as for me, well, I asked three questions - one because the only reason I could see for Plum’s question was preparation for an eventual fake claim but wanted to hear his words, one because I thought Texcat could be claiming miller but really don’t know if patsy is always feminine or not, and one because there was a $5 bet. > > I think the word was smudge, but there could have been another one. > 6 is still not “almost everybody”, unless you have very short nights! > [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/415): > > Isn’t that doing the Scum’s Job for them? 😛 > [snipped] > That’s why it’d be ideal to try to keep the numbers even, but I see no easy obvious way to know which scum group is which and killing them A,B,A,B, etc. So as a Townie, I’d say lynching the scummiest as much as possible, and if it’s all from one team, it’ll only make that team all the more desperate to want to root out the other scum group because they suddenly have just as much to lose when the town goes down. > [Snipped] Link to post not snipped: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19902457&postcount=415](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19902457&postcount=415) > [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/435): > > Boozy’s derpclear was one thing, but these? It’s mentioned in the rules, there was discussion on page 1, and then in the role PMs. > Really? Wolves, mafia and win stealers coordinating? > > No questions, sometimes you just nod and say, right, I see what you see. > Well, one question: is the actual town patsy MIA here? I get that scum will eventually want to eliminate confirmed town, but based on the suspicion of a false claiming scum from a different team, this is la la land, not wifom, wild speculation Link to post with all the quotes: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19902758&postcount=435](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19902758&postcount=435) > [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/449): > > [Snipped] > > @Players looking at Squid right now: what do you think of that remark? Link to post including ToeJams quote: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19903421&postcount=449](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19903421&postcount=449) ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/88 "2017-01-08T10:47:31Z")
> [@Captain\_Klutz](#): > > “I can’t possibly be scum, I don’t even know if they have their own board”. I’ve seen scum try this tactic, although not quite this blatant. > > **Vote ToeJam** > > This one was not as bad, but **FOS Boozahol Squid** I was thinking rather the same. And that is why I’d like others with their eyes on **Squid** to at least comment on **ToeJam**. As I think what they did was roughly the same mechanism. Only **ToeJam** gave me the biggest of the pings too. Seemed a bit too quick to sound townie. Looked a bit to me like some players just seemed to ignore it - after having called **Squid** on it. But that might be because those players didn’t return yet. So I would very much like to hear, if they didn’t see similarities in the actions or if they have others views on this matter than mine. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/89 "2017-01-08T11:06:07Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Is it too early for poke votes? Let’s start at the top of Biotop’s list. > > **Vote AngeloftheNorth** So you no longer feel that Squid was suspicious? > [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Where is the official, final player list for this game? > [snipped] > > I can’t make a proper random vote if I don’t know who all the players are… Why do you want to make a random vote? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/90 "2017-01-08T12:11:11Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Where is the official, final player list for this game? A list of 55 names was posted in the Night 0 thread ([post #3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19895644&postcount=3)), but a bit later there was a short list of potential additions ([post #32](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19896024&postcount=32)). Are any/all of those folks still in the game? > > I can’t make a proper random vote if I don’t know who all the players are… None of the additions made it into the game. Only the first list you posted is playing ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/91 "2017-01-08T13:40:18Z")
\*\*unvote: Normal vote: Colby \*\* > [@Colby11](#): > > It is apparent that based off the color from Night 0 and Day 1,we have 36 townies, 4 3rd parties, and 14 non-town players. Nice catch to whomever caught it Night 0. > > But it means that there is going to be a lot of carnage in this game. **I think the fire is probably from the other team, or an arsonist.** We do have 2 sets of scum in this game, so it’s safe to assume that each get a kill. > > I also need to check out the roles available to see what powers we are working with. I hate playing on my phone. Cheese out Bolding mine, above. This phrasing really stood out for me. I would have said, I think the fire is probably from one of the scum teams, or an arsonist. But Colby says\* the other team\*. It sure sounds like he’s on one of the scum teams to me. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/92 "2017-01-08T13:44:34Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > WTH happened with Dante? > > Do we really spend Day/Night 1 voting randomly, as some seem to be doing? Or are we supposed to be analyzing the behavior of our fellows and acting accordingly? > > I don’t have the lingo down yet, but I’ve noted folks that babble/fluff; folks that are oddly defensive about what exactly (because we just started); folks that are really focused on the whole editing thing; and a whole bunch of quiet, lurking folks who are just gathering data. I think the last group is the dangerous one. > > So which is it: Day 1 is a dart throw (so heads down and hope the crowd forgets you) or Day 1 is based on some kind of “logic” (so get in there and throw elbows)? As others have said, Day 1 (especially early Day 1) is a dart throw. Logic would require data we don’t have yet, and may come to play in future Days, but not this one. There are many fine players whose method of play is to attack and see how the person reacts to the attack. This information may be helpful but is seldom conclusive. I suck at this method, myself, and usually go with light fluff on the first Day and see who gets really upset at it. THIS game, however, has 54 players at the moment, and there is simply no room for that much fluff, especially since we have another week to go in Day 1. Which is why I won’t be posting as often as I usually do. (I also favor Lynch the Lurker, but that shouldn’t come into play until very late in the Day.) Attacking others does often produce some targets for voting. This creates a voting history which is relevant in future Days. (In fact, IMHO, voting history is probably the best source of data to make decision.) Expect more attacks. Prepare to be attacked. Watch how people react. If you feel like it, attack someone yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/93 "2017-01-08T13:57:01Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Day one votes are for the most part irrelevant. I’ve gone on record as to state that no one should be held to their Day One vote, as the game progresses, because of how in the sky it is. > > I think we are all, in a certain sense, grasping at straws. Just some of us have more favored straws over others. … Not the best play, but I think “not the best play” is the epitome of Day 1. We will get there… But this, unfortunately, is how we do it. These two portions of your post seem a bit contradictory when you put them right next to one another. Day One votes are fairly irrelevant when you’re trying to figure out if someone is Town, but can be highly useful if you’re trying to locate Scum. I think the first portion of your post is ignoring the fact that we have two Scum teams (and some Masons, natch) who have knowledge of one another. That’s not in the sky at all, and there are some important things to be gained from looking at Day One votes later in the game, as more information is gained and subtle patterns can be discerned. If someone tries hard on Day One to divert attention away from another person, later on if that person is revealed to be an important Scum role, it is definitely worth looking into the person who managed to get a different bandwagon going on Day One. I haven’t finished the thread yet, so I’m not voting on this yet. Just wanted to point it out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/94 "2017-01-08T14:10:29Z")
After having read the rest of the thread, especially the exchange between Meeko and Johnny Bravo (which actually makes both of them look suspicious, as it’s a lot of sniping noise without much substance), I’m comfortable with a vote on this one. **vote Meeko** Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/95 "2017-01-08T14:30:34Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > \*\*unvote: Normal > > vote: Colby > > \*\* > > Bolding mine, above. This phrasing really stood out for me. I would have said, I think the fire is probably from one of the scum teams, or an arsonist. But Colby says\* the other team\*. It sure sounds like he’s on one of the scum teams to me. I missed that in my reading. But I do agree - strange way to phrase it indeed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/96 "2017-01-08T14:35:14Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > From my count the following players did not post to Night0 at all. \*\* > > AngeloftheNorth > Nesta > Lakai > DaphneBlack > Hal Briston > Winston Smith \*\* > > I hope they are in the game. I’m here. The Night Zero thread got too overwhelming so I didn’t read it, and then I just remembered to come back now. ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/97 "2017-01-08T14:49:52Z")
**Vote Drain Bead** The sum of his posts indicate busyness to me rather than sincerity. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/98 "2017-01-08T14:52:02Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > I was thinking rather the same. And that is why I’d like others with their eyes on **Squid** to at least comment on **ToeJam**. As I think what they did was roughly the same mechanism. Only **ToeJam** gave me the biggest of the pings too. > > Seemed a bit too quick to sound townie. > > Looked a bit to me like some players just seemed to ignore it - after having called **Squid** on it. But that might be because those players didn’t return yet. So I would very much like to hear, if they didn’t see similarities in the actions or if they have others views on this matter than mine. Oh that’s what you meant, in comparing them. I’m suspicious of both ToeJam and Boozy, but neither was for that reason. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/99 "2017-01-08T14:58:08Z")
Is Boozy Squid the same person or a different person from Flying Squid on Giraffe? ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/100 "2017-01-08T15:00:23Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > **Vote Drain Bead** > > The sum of his posts indicate busyness to me rather than sincerity. Her. And I’m typically a low-volume poster. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577.md?page=6)