# Mafia Reunion - Day One **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 7, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577 "2017-01-07T22:01:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 55
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1081 "2017-01-14T21:03:02Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Earlier I said that **Lakai** , **ToeJam** , and \*\*AngeloftheNorth \*\*were all being voted for having “too many posts with too little actual content”. More than one person has told me that I’m dead wrong in that interpretation. > > Lakai’s recent posts have begun to help me clear up my confucion there…though I’m not sure I’m willing to make a vote that swaps lynch-leaders just at the moment…so tell me why you think I should vote for ToeJam. if it helps my vote for Lakai is post #776- I didn’t code it right so the record shows a later post as the vote post. and I need not re comment on the most recent developments. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1082 "2017-01-14T21:07:26Z")
**Unvote Colby** . **Vote Lakai** . Admittedly, I haven’t been DVRing the entire run of “The Lakai Show”, but the binge watching here of late has turned me queasy. Dude, you have squirmed so much on your positions, if you had a New Years Resolution to lose weight, you’ve succeeded. “I meant fire as metaphorical” And that’s like the first thing I read. … Uh. No. No. We don’t need this much blatant Skullduggery. Not saying that Colby’s ““team”” wasn’t a squirm, but in contrast to Lakai… It’s nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1083 "2017-01-14T21:11:07Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Almost every single word in this post is just…wrong. **THIS.** ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1084 "2017-01-14T21:11:18Z")
I have been known to jump out of wagons, but in this case I am considering pouring concrete for the lawn chair. the phrase ’ dangerous when cornered’ comes to mind- but ,it seems, to themself. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1085 "2017-01-14T21:20:01Z")
No one likes what I’m saying. I might as well dig my grave a little further then. Is it possible for all of my posts to be scum tells? Like every single one of them? I think this is a massive example of confirmation bias, where everyone who votes for me uses my subsequent posts as further evidence of my guilt. I wonder if anyone will claim responsibility for guessing wrong when it’s revealed that I am town? Or will everyone say their vote was justified because I was acting scummy? ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1086 "2017-01-14T21:21:49Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > But surely you could say that of any other technique used in the game? I mean, if a mass claim could completely solve the game, then yeah, that’s a poorly-designed game, and wouldn’t be much fun. But in this case, it’s something that gives a little bit of advantage. I agree that a mass claim wouldn’t solve the game. I wouldn’t even advocate for it right now and, if I had to guess, I’d say it’s currently more likely to hurt Town than help. If two actually claim the same role, we’d have to determine how likely it is that there are duplicates, but that shouldn’t be too difficult to sort out in time. So of course, everyone will claim Town and most will therefore claim vanilla leaving us no closer to solving anything. There’d be some benefit to then knowing the power roles and who to trust but that would probably be outweighed by the fact that they’re going to be the first to get targeted by scum and we won’t learn much from them. Plus, I think the Masons have no reason to out themselves right now. Anyway, onto other matters. I saw **Septimus’s** claim. I still think he’s been acting fishy, but I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt right now. Thing is, I’m going to keep my vote up on him until I have someone else to switch it to. I have no problem with the train on Colby, but I don’t think adding one more does anything right now. So I want to reread through **Lakai’s** accusations and his responses and come back with something soon. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1087 "2017-01-14T21:29:41Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > So you’re claiming that you might be Scum? Ha! > [@Lakai](#): > > I completely misunderstood Colby’s post and what he meant by fire. I didn’t realize he was talking about the way Dante was killed. I just thought he was talking about how there would be a lot of killings in the game because of the three teams. I read his statement out of context when someone else quoted him and made an ill informed decision to vote for him. When I defended him, I was still defending him based on a misunderstanding of what he said, and really none of my posts about Colby make any sense anymore. Fair enough, appreciate the explanation. Do you want to explain your vote on ToeJam? > [@Lakai](#): > > It was a vote to gain information and also a very misinformed vote as I later realized. I can’t really defend it at this point. How exactly was it a vote to gain information? > [@Plumpudding](#): > > I was uncertain how uncomfortable I was, decided to do it regardless, since I’d already started. By the way, I didn’t find the mention of those games uncomfortable, only the linking. I indicated a certain level (kinda creepy, as in Biotop “stalking” his “prey”, unsure if I’m crossing a line or not) of uncomfortability, because I felt slightly uncomfortable doing it. I appreciated it, but not sure how it’s different to discussing other games. Others were bringing metagame info to defend Colby’s actions but not backing it up in any way. > [@LightFoot](#): > > I have been known to jump out of wagons, but in this case I am considering pouring concrete for the lawn chair. What does that mean? Sounds like the opposite of jumping? ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1088 "2017-01-14T21:31:22Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > If two actually claim the same role, we’d have to determine how likely it is that there are duplicates, but that shouldn’t be too difficult to sort out in time. 0% likely, that was quick. Or did you mean something else? ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1089 "2017-01-14T21:32:25Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > 0% likely, that was quick. Or did you mean something else? Well, 2 sets of masons maybe… 13 secs, 4 secs ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1090 "2017-01-14T22:10:44Z")
As we’re now well under 24 hours until End of Day, with at least three lynch candidates “in the running”, here is a list of players that currently have no vote on record, by my own count: Not voting as of this post **Prof. Pepperwinkle** - 37 posts - had previously voted for EnderW24 and Koldanar \*\*septimus \*\*- 33 posts - had previously voted for Pleonast, Colby11, Johnny Bravo, Prof. Pepperwinkle, AngeloftheNorth, and Colby11 No votes Today \*\*Crys75 \*\*- 9 posts \*\*BillMc \*\*- 5 posts \*\*ComeToTheDarkSideWeHanveCokies \*\*- 4 posts \*\*nesta \*\*- 4 posts **Hal Briston** - 3 posts **Idle Thoughts** - 2 posts \*\*Khameleon \*\*- 2 posts \*\*Sario \*\*- 2 posts \*\*MHaye \*\*- 1 post \*\*Precambrianmollusc \*\*- 1 posts 0 posts total during Night 0/Day 1, in danger of Mod-Kill **DaphneBlack** **Winston Smith** That amounts to quite a few votes still on the shelf ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1091 "2017-01-14T22:16:44Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Ha! > ~snip~ > What does that mean? Sounds like the opposite of jumping? Most of the time if a wagon gets top heavy I will leave it/not join it at all. In this case I am progressively more convinced that Lakai’s actions/explanations don’t fit with a Town role. So somewhat out of character for me I am leaving my vote where it is. Does that answer your question? ---
**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1092 "2017-01-14T22:21:13Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > I said a defense of another player with little evidence is more suspicious than a vote for another player with little evidence. It’s a statement weighting the relative suspicion of two different behaviors. It’s not a statement that you can never defend someone. Someone voted for me for making a vote with little evidence and I was pointing out that my vote shouldn’t be suspicious for that reasoning because (a) all votes have little evidence behind them and (b) defending someone with little evidence is a more suspicious behavior. Hard disagree. I’ve said it before, and I’ll said it again: if somebody is using crummy logic for their suspicion, I’m going to call it out. There’s nothing suspicious about defending a player that’s on the receiving end of lackluster suspicions, and I think we should all do it. While Townies often prove to be wrong in their suspicions (if they weren’t, we’d lynch perfectly on a regular basis), scum tend to have the most lackluster reasons for doing so. More importantly, even if what you were saying was accurate, something being “more suspicious” than what you were voted for, doesn’t somehow make you any \*less \*suspicious. It doesn’t work that way. I’m really looking sideways at “(a) all votes have little evidence behind them”, as that seems like a cop-out. ‘Votes never have good reasons so I don’t need good reasons’? Nope, not gonna fly for me. **FOS Lakai** ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1093 "2017-01-14T22:32:10Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > **Unvote All** > > **Vote Lakai** > > Because: > > 1. I see the case on him more than the case on Colby. > 2. His post voting me is incredibly scummy. I hate posts that make a vote and then excuse themselves from the possible consequences of that vote. > 3. I am not scum and so I can easily see an alternative lynch swing on to me if things are going poorly. > 4. The people who agree with me that Boozahol Squid is scummy aren’t voting him. That’s suspicious in itself so now I have to go back and see who they are. On 4, me for one. I did vote him early on today, but then ToeJam went all giving me hives. ---
**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1094 "2017-01-14T22:34:33Z")
And now I see several others got there before I did. I’m glad it’s not just me giving that post side-eye. \*\*unvote Johnny Bravo [COLOR=Navy]vote Lakai [/COLOR]**[COLOR=Navy][COLOR=Black]I stand by my previous vote, but I’m skeptical enough of** Lakai\*\*'s posting to feel good about hir as a lynch candidate. [/COLOR][/COLOR] ---
**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1095 "2017-01-14T22:37:28Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > Most of the time if a wagon gets top heavy I will leave it/not join it at all. I think that’s one thing about a game of this size, there are enough players and factions that any vote leader is likely to have what feels like a ton of votes on them. It may look like a lot, but it seems like a similar percentage to what we might see in a typical game, where it wouldn’t necessarily look so top-heavy/wagony. (I think so anyway, from eyeballing it. I did not crunch actual percentage numbers.) ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1096 "2017-01-14T22:40:23Z")
For Suburban Plankton and others Here is the most coherent case on ToeJam I’ve seen, from HookerChemical. Click the link for context. > [@HookerChemical](#): > > I’ve done my best with tags and quotes to make this followable. Nested quotes are a pain, so I’ve inserted the speaker’s name where appropriate. > > ToeJam, beginning with N0.412, because that’s the post that put him on my radar: > **Day Zero** > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19902427&postcount=412](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19902427&postcount=412) > Like I said previously, this post comes off as way too accommodating and deferential. I know a lot of people find unanswered questions to be a potential tell, and this post appears to be determined to answer them in the most non-confrontational way possible and get people to look elsewhere. > > On reread, there’s a nice little smudge of Guiri and Normal Phase for snuggling, for bonus measure. > > For the record, here’s sinjin’s post that seems to have precipitated this: > All things considered, it’s a very mild questioning. The response is overly complicated and convoluted for what should be a straight forward answer (the Patsy should claim and be semi-confirmed). > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19902457&postcount=415](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19902457&postcount=415) > This is general strategy discussion and there’s not much to be gained from it as far as scum/town leans go. > > In response to sachertorte, who finds issue with ToeJam’s concern about appearing suspicious and being too deferential. > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19902962&postcount=441](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19902962&postcount=441) > The vote that pinged me hardest was the super deferential tone of Post N0.412, but here he’s claiming an aggressive playstyle. Later posts sure don’t back up that aggressive style and seem content to lurk or > > **Day 1** > > ToeJam had 12 posts N0, which lasted 3 days. ToeJam has 5 posts, and we’re 4 days into D1. I get that schedules and availability fluctuate, but it looks like somebody who attracted suspicion and wants to drop off the radar. > > Posts 123 and 124 (124 is a repost of 123 with fixed tags) > ([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19905230&postcount=124](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19905230&postcount=124)) > > > [@](#): > > > > [spoiler] > > And now I have the WIFOM of do I edit my post to fix my bolding errors or not? > > lol. That bold should have stopped after my name. Well, let’s just quote and fix it here, no? > > Preview post is my friend. > > Here you go if you want the non-bolded version: > > NETA: > > > > The “I try to sound townie as scum” defense is pretty much a non-defense. It’s acknowledging that the tone people are picking up is consistent with his scum game. But even that isn’t saying much because scum almost always wants to “play townie.” The problem with N0.412 isn’t that it’s a townie post responding to questions. It’s the tone of that response and just how damn friendly and responsive it’s trying to be. That’s completely at odds with the “aggressive” and “offputting” playstyle he’s claiming. > > Vote Count Post: ([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19905276&postcount=128](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19905276&postcount=128)) > > Strictly informational post. No scum/town information here. > > > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19905303&postcount=132](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19905303&postcount=132) > > His opinion on Colby went from “The “Slip up” does seem like that- a slip up.” (Post D1.123) to “The slip up is an odd choice of words” and voting Colby. > > > > The FOS on Sunny is weak. Sunny makes a case that I agree with. The vote is presented with the case. It may be a gut feeling case rather than a misstatement, scummy acts, or rule-based case, but I’m pretty comfortable with that on D1. (IMO, Klutz’s vote is the weaker of the two cases, but I still buy it for a D1 vote.) > > > > This post, combined with Post D1.123, pings me hard for the flipped opinion and the baseless FOS. > > > > D1.133, responding to Meeko: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19905308&postcount=133](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19905308&postcount=133) > > Fluff. I will note that content to fluff is solid. This post is included for completeness sake. > > My vote stays on ToeJam. I’m confident in that vote for a D1 vote. The initial ping is reinforced by the self-description of being aggressive and confrontational, the 180 in positions on Colby, and the drop off in content once ToeJam drew too much attention. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1097 "2017-01-14T23:00:32Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Earlier I said that **Lakai** , **ToeJam** , and \*\*AngeloftheNorth \*\*were all being voted for having “too many posts with too little actual content”. More than one person has told me that I’m dead wrong in that interpretation. > > Lakai’s recent posts have begun to help me clear up my confucion there…though I’m not sure I’m willing to make a vote that swaps lynch-leaders just at the moment…so tell me why you think I should vote for ToeJam. Here’s some of the pro-ToeJam arguments. First up, my post when I cast my vote: > [@](#): > > Post 113, **Sunny Daze** OK, working with the idea that we should be looking for tells, here’s where I find mine. This really long, overly sensitive proclamation of innocence on Day 0. I thought it was excessive and a case of “the lady’s doth protest too much” > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by ToeJam \ > > Sinjin, Guiri, Normal Phase > > Is there anything I can help to clear up on why you 3 find me suspicious? Sinjin had questions, so I can address those. The other two just snuggled up behind SJ, so I’ll be here waiting to hear from you guys. > > > > Sinjin : > > Do you have issues with me thinking out loud? When I went through the paragraph (here you quote it), I showed my work. > > > > You quote portions of my statements, and ask why did I bring up the previous one- because I don’t want to leave them out. If I present only one side of an argument, that’s kinda scummy. I want to consider both sides (and as you pointed me pointing out- I even stated that one option is LESS likely, and the other is more likely). > > > > Now, you ask why would scum kill the Patsy (your third statement)? Because of what I said afterwards- The Scum factions ALSO have to deal with the WIFOM that the Patsy is a false claim. It’s not likely, but Each scum faction has to worry about the possibility that the OTHER scum faction might have done it. > > That doesn’t really matter early game (especially for Town), but late game- the scum group is going to get antys about the idea of a False claiming Patsy, and since it’d add to their kills if it WAS a real patsy, and if it WAS a fake-claim, it’d be pro-Scum to take out the Patsy the further we get into the late game. > > > > It’s all WIFOM. But it’s more and more WIFOM for the Scum the later it gets into the game with an uncounterclaimed Patsy (who ideally should be town, because… as I noted, it’d be really really risky for scum to counterclaim and trade 1:1 that early in the game, putting them immediately behind the other scum group). Hence the Doc’s get to WIFOM if they want to protect a potential Townie role that ScumA might actually be thinking about killing. > > > > That’s what I meant by my lines on the matter. > > Also, if you notice- I do at the end summarize my thinking aloud with what I actually DO think of the whole matter: Basically- all in all- i’m pro-Patsy claiming Day 1, and then we should NOT lynch the Poor patsy day 1 either though. > > > > That’s the takeaway. The rest of it is WIFOM if you’re scum, if you’re a doctor, and if you’re not town. Which is what I want to do. I want to pour WIFOM for scum. I’m not going to make it easier on them. And if you’re scum, you better continue to expect such WIFOM. > > > > If you’re town, just ask me to clarify, and I will clarify (or I’ll probably clarify on my own, as I did there in that post). > > > > So now, Sinjin, you’re fine. But Normal Phase, Guiri. What’s up? It’s rather easy to jump on and go “me too”, but if you’ve actually got Qs, I’m still alive. Otherwise, I’ll just keep your snuggling in mind for the future. > > -R > > VOTE TOEJAM I’ll share **HookerChemical’s** take on it as well. > [@](#): > > Post 184, **HookerChemical** \ > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by ToeJam View Post \ > > Sinjin, Guiri, Normal Phase … > > …Otherwise, I’ll just keep your snuggling in mind for the future. > > -R > > This feels way too snugly and inoffensive. I think I’m a non-combative player, but this is too kiddy-gloved for even me. It feels too universally snuggly and eager to be free of issues/baggage/scrutiny. “I’ve answered your questions. Please look elsewhere.” (Sunny Daze seems to be getting a similar vibe as well in Post 113 toDay.) > vote ToeJam Then we have **ToeJam’s** response, from Post 124, snipped (there’s a bit in there about formatting and Roosh and whatnot that I left out): > [@](#): > > Now back to the Game: > > So Sunny Daze, Ullz- I can’t really defend myself against accusations of “too quick to sound townie” or “he posts a lot and tries to sound Townie”. I would argue that THAT is my playstyle, and regardless of if I’m Town or Scum, I would take excess measures to do it for consistencies sake. > I would also argue that I tend to play lazier when I’m Town vs. when I’m scum, and I know the argument, “I’m really really good at playing scum” isn’t a great one- but that’s my retort to Satch. You pointed out on N0, I’m being a bit deferential to the players- well, it’s been a while since I’ve been on the Dope, and I know my playstyle… can be offputting. I guess I am slightly intimidated in returning to Mafia, and knowing that my excess posting can quickly take over. My goal is to avoid that (and I am no longer the mafia player of old- I simply cannot spend hours tracking stuff anymore, but rather an hour or two every few days checking in), hence the no notes and all comment. This didn’t help him in my eyes. It’s contradictory (he’s plays more, but he’s lazier, but he plays harder, but it’s just his style, but he’s great at being scum). So which is it - are you scum or not? Scum it is, for me. Nothing I’ve seen since then has changed my mind. There you have it. There is more out there. Others have arrived at pro-ToeJam in other ways, but these particular posts have wrapped mine up neatly. > [@Meeko](#): > > For me, I think Shenanigans has a slightly higher level of covertness, or ulteriorness (is that even a word?) than public at face value… Bees buzzing around the outside of a hive. I think you are right, as I consider it more. Shenanigans can have a connotation of naughtiness, which I did not intend. Flurry of last minute activity comes closer to what I wished to ask. So asked and answered at this point, thank you. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1098 "2017-01-14T23:02:35Z")
Simulposts on **ToeJam**! Oh well, I hope they help someone. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1099 "2017-01-14T23:04:43Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > As we’re now well under 24 hours until End of Day, with at least three lynch candidates “in the running”, here is a list of players that currently have no vote on record, by my own count: > > Not voting as of this post > **Prof. Pepperwinkle** - 37 posts - had previously voted for EnderW24 and Koldanar > \*\*septimus \*\*- 33 posts - had previously voted for Pleonast, Colby11, Johnny Bravo, Prof. Pepperwinkle, AngeloftheNorth, and Colby11 > > No votes Today > \*\*Crys75 \*\*- 9 posts > \*\*BillMc \*\*- 5 posts > \*\*ComeToTheDarkSideWeHanveCokies \*\*- 4 posts > \*\*nesta \*\*- 4 posts > **Hal Briston** - 3 posts > **Idle Thoughts** - 2 posts > \*\*Khameleon \*\*- 2 posts > \*\*Sario \*\*- 2 posts > \*\*MHaye \*\*- 1 post > \*\*Precambrianmollusc \*\*- 1 posts > > 0 posts total during Night 0/Day 1, in danger of Mod-Kill > **DaphneBlack** > **Winston Smith** > > That amounts to quite a few votes still on the shelf I voted for ToeJam in Post #1057. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1100 "2017-01-14T23:08:32Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > I voted for ToeJam in Post #1057. My mistake…I marked that vote down on the wrong line. Which also means that \*\*raventhief \*\*(with 17 posts) hasn’t voted today. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577.md?page=54) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577.md?page=56)