# Mafia Reunion - Day One **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 7, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577 "2017-01-07T22:01:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 58
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1141 "2017-01-15T04:09:37Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I apologize if I have over-edited. I will stop snipping and start spoilering instead. > > I cannot answer that I think, at this moment. He did get my attention Day 0. (I feel a bit Meeko-ish now.) I’m not sure I can excise that awareness from my worldview. It is also true, however, that I believe honestly that his behavior since Day 0, that is on Day 1, has kept it. I believe that to be valid. > > In the spirit of complete intellectual honesty, I will go back and re-assess, as if Day 0 had not existed, as much as I can. If you look it has been shown that he posted he had his PM before the posts in question- so [Emily Litella] Nevermind [/EL] ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1142 "2017-01-15T04:11:28Z")
There are just under 16 hours left in the Day. If you have a Day action get in your request. If you haven’t posted since Night 0 started. Post. Don’t wait. Just say hi. Anything. We will start Subbing non posters at Dusk and mod killing anyone we can’t replace the following Dawn. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1143 "2017-01-15T05:14:32Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > 13 votes still unaccounted for? A lot of craziness can happen. Good evening. I’ll probably switch my one-off vote in the morning if it seems like it could matter. I will be at work for the EOD. Sorry to miss it. I think the real EOD shenanigans will occur later in the game if/when multi-lynch becomes possible. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1144 "2017-01-15T05:24:28Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > Good evening. I’ll probably switch my one-off vote in the morning if it seems like it could matter. I will be at work for the EOD. Sorry to miss it. > > I think the real EOD shenanigans will occur later in the game if/when multi-lynch becomes possible. Maybe not so much shenanigans, but this silent faction can start a run on someone else while we (we meaning I) sleep. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1145 "2017-01-15T05:30:32Z")
Well, looks like public opinion has shifted dramatically since I was on last! I don’t know what to do here, but it’s a happy kind of not knowing, because I really like all three of the leading candidates (too bad that never happens in real life…). I still think\*\* Pleonast\*\* looks scummiest of all, but the fact that nobody else seems to find my case compelling has to give me pause. I would hope that **Chronos** feels the same way about his case on me. I am also one of the people Angel mentioned who has suspected but not voted for **Boozahol** , and I would still be happy to see if that train could get some traction tomorrow. I think I will probably just end the Day with my one-off vote. There are those who would say I should pick one of the leaders to “leave a record”, but the fact is that I really feel about the same about all of them, and if I just arbitrarily pick one, the “record” will be misleading in that it would make me look scummy (if I vote for Town) or smarter than I really am (if I vote for not-town). So, for the record, here are my thoughts: the five players I would currently be happy to lynch are\*\* Pleonast, Toejam, Boozahol, Colby\*\*, and\*\* Lakai.\*\* I’ll also add\*\* Johnny Bravo\*\* to that list; he has had his vote parked on **Normal Phase** since page one, hasn’t been around lately, and I seem to recall thinking he was coming off really scummy earlier but can’t remember why. I lean towards believing **septimus** ’ claim. The other 46 of you I am still trying to read. I hope to be around to keep an eye on EoD shenanigans, but likely won’t have time to post much. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1146 "2017-01-15T05:35:50Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Maybe not so much shenanigans, but this silent faction can start a run on someone else while we (we meaning I) sleep. Well if \*\*Winston Smith \*\*or \*\*Daphne Black \*\* show up I will be surprised. I think we might have a better chance getting a vote from Judge Crater or Amelia Earhart than either of them. Didn’t someone post a list earlier of who has yet to vote? I am too tired after work to figure it out now. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1147 "2017-01-15T05:57:18Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > 13 votes still unaccounted for? A lot of craziness can happen. I found the \*\*Suburban Plankton \*\* (#1090) list of non-voters. I can’t see all those low posters causing a lot of craziness. Guess we’ll see. Public opinion is fickle, \*\*Thing Fish \*\*. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1148 "2017-01-15T06:24:34Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > And you’re right, Scum would \*totally \*say that. Would they? It was too Scummy to be Scum, so Scum would totally say it only because too-Scummy is a Town tell. 😛 > [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Almost every single word in this post is just…wrong. Yes. _ **Too wrong to be scum** _ … ??? And the case against **ToeJam**? AFAICT, the main charge against him is Too-Towny to be Town. > [@Lakai](#): > > No one likes what I’m saying. I might as well dig my grave a little further then. > > Is it possible for all of my posts to be scum tells? Like every single one of them? > > I think this is a massive example of confirmation bias, where everyone who votes for me uses my subsequent posts as further evidence of my guilt. I wonder if anyone will claim responsibility for guessing wrong when it’s revealed that I am town? Or will everyone say their vote was justified because I was acting scummy? I have much sympathy for **Lakai**. I’d be bitterly posting like this myself right now if I were Vanilla. Odds are that one of the Lynch leaders is Scum, but danged if I can tell which one. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1149 "2017-01-15T06:52:05Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Would they? It was too Scummy to be Scum, so Scum would totally say it only because too-Scummy is a Town tell. 😛 > > Yes. _ **Too wrong to be scum** _ … ??? > > And the case against **ToeJam**? AFAICT, the main charge against him is Too-Towny to be Town. > > I have much sympathy for **Lakai**. I’d be bitterly posting like this myself right now if I were Vanilla. > > Odds are that one of the Lynch leaders is Scum, but danged if I can tell which one. It is late and the top comments made me snicker RE: Lakai- did they claim somewhere and I missed it? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1150 "2017-01-15T08:26:39Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > It is late and the top comments made me snicker > > RE: Lakai- did they claim somewhere and I missed it? Glad for a laugh! I forgot to leave context for the quotes from Mr. **Plankton**. The first was describing his own post, the 2nd described Lakai’s post. And no, I don’t think **Lakai** has claimed yet. I hope we don’t have a panicked ending at Dusk with claims, false claims, and counterclaims leaping at us from all directions. (I’m glad I got my own panicked claim out of the way already. 😛 ) @ **Lakai** — if you are Town, whether Vanilla or not, please post your role, **truthfully** , ASAP. My claim was too early (partly because I was off by a day re: EOD); don’t make yours too late. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1151 "2017-01-15T09:45:46Z")
I won’t be around at end of Day (for me it is 7am Monday). I am happy with a lynch of any of **Toejam** , **Lakai** and **Colby**. There is just over 10 hours to go - if you have claims, don’t leave them to the last minute. ---
**Author:** ![BillMC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@BillMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BillMC)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1152 "2017-01-15T11:00:27Z")
My gut instinct on Cobly is that he’s scum. Between Lakai and Toejam, Hooker provides a cohernet argument for toejam in d1#568. Tho we seem to have a runaway train for Lakai. Vote: ToeJam unlikely to be online again before day end as I’ll be airborne. ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1153 "2017-01-15T11:25:50Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > [snip] > I have much sympathy for **Lakai**. I’d be bitterly posting like this myself right now if I were Vanilla. > [snap] You’re overlooking his two first posts I think. Look at those two (and his post @Guiri) and compare them with his later posts. They read like completely different players to me. It looks as if he had a “play” in mind, when starting out, a persona or an act, and when things fell through just gave up. So yeah, 3p is a good bet I think. His posts does not look vetted! Or maybe he gave up to provide a minibus for his fellows… But I don’t see vanilla. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1154 "2017-01-15T13:28:33Z")
**BillMC** , is that what you meant to say? You think that **Colby** is Scum, and you think that there’s a good argument for **ToeJam** over **Lakai** , but you’re voting **Lakai** just because a lot of other folks are? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1155 "2017-01-15T13:28:46Z")
Earlier, **Boozahol** worried that we would end up Lynching the Loud. Scum probably lurk among the lower posters. But **ToeJam** has only five posts toDay, not bothering to defend himself nor to share his thoughts. **Vote ToeJam** ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1156 "2017-01-15T13:30:16Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > **BillMC** , is that what you meant to say? You think that **Colby** is Scum, and you think that there’s a good argument for **ToeJam** over **Lakai** , but you’re voting **Lakai** just because a lot of other folks are? He’s voting ToeJam. ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1157 "2017-01-15T13:35:04Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > \*\* > **DAY ONE VOTE COUNT** > As a quick reminder - there are no powers, hidden or open, that can affect the vote count. If you see an apparent discrepancy, it’s the result of moderator error. > > **Lakai** (14 votes) - Inner Stickler (257), snfaulkner (295), RedSkeeziz(319), Plumpudding(647), Light Foot (883), Koldanar (900), Guiri (977), Scathach (1031), AngeloftheNorth (1078), Hockey Monkey (1102), Drain Bead (889), Raventhief (1109), Meeko (1082), jsgoddess (1129) > > **ToeJam** (7 votes) - Sunny Daze (113), Hooker Chemical (184), sinjin (200), Sachertorte (534), Captain Klutz(796), Normal Phase (1011), Prof. Pepperwinkle (1057) > > **colby11** (6 votes) - Texcat (91), ToeJam (132), Hawkeye(350), Nanook(455), brewha (683), Pleonast (841), Suburban Plankton (1026) > > **Angelofthenorth** (5 votes) - Zeriel(413), TotalLost(492), Boozahol Squid PI (546), Lakai (1006), Meeko (1082)) > \*\* You’ve counted Meeko as voting for both Lakai and Angelofthenorth. I believe he voted Lakai in post 1082, not Angelofthenorth. ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1158 "2017-01-15T13:38:28Z")
Well, actually you didn’t count it, it seems… ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1159 "2017-01-15T14:01:40Z")
I’m happy to move my vote to Toejam or Colby. I feel there’s better company on the toejam lynch (fewer one-post wonders, for example) and potentially more info to be gained on the Colby lynch (lots of defenders) - it seems almost nobody is against a lakai lynch. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1160 "2017-01-15T14:08:12Z")
I’m getting very sleepy so will post an _ **Unofficial Vote Summary** _, as of now, in case anyone finds it useful. The count is 15-9-7; details in spoiler box. **Lakai** (15): [ul][li]Inner Stickler (#257)[/li][li]snfaulkner (#295)[/li][li]Red Skeezix (#319)[/li][li]Plumpudding (#647)[/li][li]LightFoot (#883)[/li][li]Koldanar (#900)[/li][li]GuiriEnEspaña (#977)[/li][li]Hoopy Frood (#1031)[/li][li]AngeloftheNorth (#1078)[/li][li]Meeko (#1082)[/li][li]bufftabby (#1094)[/li][li]Hockey Monkey (#1102)[/li][li]Drain Bead (#1108)[/li][li]raventhief (#1109)[/li][li]jsgoddess (#1129)[/li][/ul] **ToeJam** (9): [ul][li]Captain Klutz (#57) [#347] (#796)[/li][li]Sunny Daze (#113)[/li][li]Normal Phase (#147) [#322] (#1011)[/li][li]HookerChemical (#184)[/li][li]sinjin (#200)[/li][li]sachertorte (#534)[/li][li][del]Lakai (#775) [#1006][/del][/li][li]Prof. Pepperwinkle (#1057)[/li][li]BillMC (#1152)[/li][li]septimus (#1155)[/li][/ul] **Colby11** (7): [ul][li]TexCat (#91)[/li][li][del]GuiriEnEspaña (#101) [#977][/del][/li][li][del]septimus (#106) [#231] (#993) [#1034][/del][/li][li][del]Meeko (#130) [#1082][/del][/li][li]ToeJam (#132)[/li][li][del]Hockey Monkey (#152) [#1101][/del][/li][li][del]Lakai (#154) [#775][/del][/li][li]Suburban Plankton (#162) [#541] (#1026)[/li][li][del]DiggitCamara (#249) [#264][/del][/li][li]Hawkeyeop (#350)[/li][li]Nanook of the North Shore (#455)[/li][li]brewha (#683)[/li][li]Pleonast (#841)[/li][/ul] **AngeloftheNorth** (4): [ul][li][del]snfaulkner (#37) [#157][/del][/li][li]Zeriel (#413)[/li][li]Total Lost (#493)[/li][li][del]jsgoddess (#503) [#716][/del][/li][li]Boozahol Squid, P.I. (#546)[/li][li][del]septimus (#981) [#993][/del][/li][li]Lakai (#1006)[/li][/ul] **TexCat** (1): [ul][li]Scathach (#758)[/li][/ul] **Thing Fish** (1): [ul][li]Chronos (#917)[/li][/ul] **Normal Phase** (1): [ul][li][del]TexCat (#29) [#91][/del][/li][li]Johnny Bravo (#36)[/li][li][del]Pleonast (#241) [#511][/del][/li][/ul] **Chronos** (1): [ul][li]Biotop (#957)[/li][/ul] **Pleonast** (1): [ul][li][del]septimus (#85) [#106][/del][/li][li]Thing Fish (#794)[/li][li][del]Normal Phase (#824) [#1011][/del][/li][/ul] **septimus** (1): [ul][li]Enderw24 (#243)[/li][li][del]Total Lost (#273) [#493][/del][/li][li][del]Normal Phase (#322) [#714][/del][/li][li][del]Colby11 (#335) [#946][/del][/li][li][del]Captain Klutz (#347) [#796][/del][/li][li][del]Hoopy Frood (#480) [#736][/del][/li][li][del]Pleonast (#511) [#841][/del][/li][/ul] **snfaulkner** (1): [ul][li]DiggitCamara (#264)[/li][/ul] **brewha** (1): [ul][li]Colby11 (#946)[/li][/ul] **Hawkeyeop** (0): [ul][li][del]Boozahol Squid, P.I. (#188) [#540][/del][/li][/ul] **Johnny Bravo** (0): [ul][li][del]Meeko (#41) [#130][/del][/li][li][del]bufftabby (#259) [#1094][/del][/li][li][del]septimus (#488) [#659][/del][/li][/ul] **jsgoddess** (0): [ul][li][del]Chronos (#183) [#917][/del][/li][/ul] **Koldanar** (0): [ul][li][del]Prof. Pepperwinkle (#545) [#908][/del][/li][/ul] **Meeko** (0): [ul][li][del]Drain Bead (#94) [#888][/del][/li][/ul] **Plumpudding** (0): [ul][li][del]Suburban Plankton (#541) [#1026][/del][/li][/ul] **Prof. Pepperwinkle** (0): [ul][li][del]Plumpudding (#472) [#647][/del][/li][li][del]septimus (#659) [#981][/del][/li][/ul] **Scathach** (0): [ul][li][del]Hoopy Frood (#798) [#1031][/del][/li][/ul] **Total Lost** (0): [ul][li][del]raventhief (#679) [#912][/del][/li][li][del]jsgoddess (#716) [#1129][/del][/li][/ul] **Biotop** (0): [ul][li][del]Plumpudding (#412) [#470][/del][/li][/ul] **Boozahol Squid, P.I.** (0): [ul][li][del]Normal Phase (#102) [#147][/del][/li][li][del]snfaulkner (#157) [#295][/del][/li][li][del]AngeloftheNorth (#542) [#1078][/del][/li][li][del]Biotop (#709) [#957][/del][/li][/ul] **Captain Klutz** (0): [ul][li][del]Hoopy Frood (#195) [#480][/del][/li][li][del]Drain Bead (#889) [#1108][/del][/li][/ul] **Drain Bead** (0): [ul][li][del]AngeloftheNorth (#97) [#542][/del][/li][/ul] **Enderw24** (0): [ul][li][del]Prof. Pepperwinkle (#528) [#545][/del][/li][/ul] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577.md?page=57) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577.md?page=59)