# Mafia Reunion - Day One **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 7, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577 "2017-01-07T22:01:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/161 "2017-01-08T23:32:12Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > What time does the train leave for Colbyville? > > Still, 7 votes out of 54 is equivalent to, say, 2 votes out of a game of 18. It’s too early to worry about trains yet, since we have another week to go in this Day. > > I didn’t see it in the rules, but: **Are we allowed to Hammer?** I thinnk I saw that we can’t change the day/night timing by any in-game mechanism. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/162 "2017-01-08T23:33:14Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > Why do you want to make a random vote? Why not? I had taken to making a random vote as my first post of every game, just to see what kind of reaction I would get. Unfortunately, I couldn’t do it here for the reason stated, and by the time I got an answer to my question it seemed “too late”. > [@TexCat](#): > > But Colby says\* the other team\*. It sure sounds like he’s on one of the scum teams to me. > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Meh. In my experience, scum slips usually aren’t. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren’t. This one looks to me to be more like “something” than most. He notes that there are “2 sets of Scum”, and uses the phrase “the other team” in the same sentence…that seems like an odd combination of phrases. **vote Colby11** ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/163 "2017-01-08T23:36:47Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > What time does the train leave for Colbyville? > > Still, 7 votes out of 54 is equivalent to, say, 2 votes out of a game of 18. It’s too early to worry about trains yet, since we have another week to go in this Day. > > I didn’t see it in the rules, but: **Are we allowed to Hammer?** > [@jsgoddess](#): > > I thinnk I saw that we can’t change the day/night timing by any in-game mechanism. So you are saying, we **can’t touch this**? ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/164 "2017-01-08T23:47:45Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > So you are saying, we **can’t touch this**? Please don’t hurt em. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/165 "2017-01-08T23:49:50Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > So you are saying, we **can’t touch this**? I hate you. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/166 "2017-01-08T23:50:34Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > What time does the train leave for Colbyville? > > Still, 7 votes out of 54 is equivalent to, say, 2 votes out of a game of 18. It’s too early to worry about trains yet, since we have another week to go in this Day. > > I didn’t see it in the rules, but: **Are we allowed to Hammer?** Nope. Sorry Prof. The Day is the Day. Mods may change the Day length at their discretion, but nothing you all can do about it. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/167 "2017-01-08T23:50:54Z")
You set him up. Ladies and gentlemen, MC Meeko is in the House! ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/168 "2017-01-08T23:53:18Z")
No, no. That was funny. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/169 "2017-01-08T23:59:03Z")
Has there ever been an instance where Town has called themselves team? How can this happen, given the fundamental and immutable set-up of Mafia? I’d wager to say town not knowing they are a team, is **THE** defining attribute of Mafia. “Given” roles such as a cop and a doctor would even come after that. I’m saying I can’t conceive how it would be natural to even embrace the thought of “team” if you are town. Sure, you could, I guess, have a “team” of Masons of any stripe, but again, that comes from knowing the complete set, if you will. If we don’t know all that (who that) we are, we can never call us a team. And I think it even goes one step further. Most games, a vast majority of players are vanilla town. They don’t even get to know … Anything. In fact, most games, a vanilla town role goes so far as to state “just you and your abilities” or some variation thereof. … Most town players are further segregated than even just being a randomized group of people, some with extra abilities than others. … It does matter that some players are dealt extra cards than others… **Town doesn’t think as a team, in any sense, and most town players (vanillas) are subtly encouraged not to think of “team” at all.** Finally, if we are to find Scum (or indeed any non-town) toDay, that is on a Day One, Any Day one… Wouldn’t it need to follow that we do so due to a “Big” slip? One that is obvious? ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/170 "2017-01-09T00:27:41Z")
Ffs you prolifically loquacious mofrakies. Reading… It is a good thing I suddenly have tomorrow off. Based on what I have read so far, votes based on editing…meh. Colby’s ‘other team’ comment has more potentially interesting substance. Bufftabby’s lynch-the-lurker philosophy also caught my eye but I may be projecting because I will definitely look like I’m lurking this game compared to previously. No more professional need for an online laptop surgically attached to my fingers. I don’t even have broadband at home right now, just my (still pretty fat) data plan on my phone. Nothing at all how my daily grind was through my previous play. I think I might end up looking like a formerly competitive badminton player who decided to take up curling (and not the meth-snorting ppl with the brooms, the ones who move slow sit there staring at things quietly for a long time and then gently fuck the ice while sliding the rock). ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/171 "2017-01-09T00:29:41Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > \*\* Colby \*\* > I do suggest you check the [roles.doc](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XVWkU49fRxu3ukJ6EVZ8Q11VrC9JjW9LHnaIMlgi-zU/edit) here is the link-since it seems you missed the N0 discussions related to it. _( I included the link for ease of access)_ > > easy to do with the volume of posts > Speaking of N0- I received my PM quite late in the Night and I can only wager others did too, so I am disregarding my leans from the Night thread Thanks for that Lightfoot there is so many pages to look through to try and find it again. ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/172 "2017-01-09T00:32:05Z")
> [@Captain\_Klutz](#): > > “I can’t possibly be scum, I don’t even know if they have their own board”. I’ve seen scum try this tactic, although not quite this blatant. > > **Vote ToeJam** > > This one was not as bad, but **FOS Boozahol Squid** I really have no other knowledge of ToeJam however Boozahol I’m pretty sure has asked similar questions in the past. This imo is day 1 weak sauce dart throws, but depending on how the day progresses may be important. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/173 "2017-01-09T00:38:34Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > I have a strong recollection about a game discussion about ‘slips’ and how often they wind up being nothing a follow-up discussion about how the person that points out a ‘slip’ is often scum. I want to say that discussion was with you, Drain Bead. Do you remember it? So by that pattern matching, that would make TexCat suspicious. Almost certain that was me, and I recall it being the case a handful of times. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/174 "2017-01-09T00:44:44Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > I never said that only scum will edit - and even pointed out that the mods edit. To subtle implicate that mod-editing is prove that it’s not a scum-tell alone. > > But - having pointed that out - to me editing IS trying to hide or remove something posted. No matter what that something was. It might be a “harmless” code-fix. But what ever it was - editing is concealing the original post from other players. > > I do think the last 100 post or so of N0 is part of this game. And I for one might quote from the thread D1 and ask some players about their actions in the Night. > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The dev’s said there were no night actions for night 0, so I’m pretty sure none of us did anything at all ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/175 "2017-01-09T00:49:58Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > After having read the rest of the thread, especially the exchange between Meeko and Johnny Bravo (which actually makes both of them look suspicious, as it’s a lot of sniping noise without much substance), I’m comfortable with a vote on this one. > > **vote Meeko** > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You’re drinking the kool aid!! Meeko does this stuff all the time which is why I usually vote him early myself. However he seems to be doing the normal Meeko. ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/176 "2017-01-09T00:51:04Z")
NETA: I personally will give him a little lattitude atm. ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/177 "2017-01-09T00:59:31Z")
> [@bufftabby](#): > > I’m really torn on this. The charitable interpretation of “the other team” may be the correct one. Or it may be a significant slip, as the phrasing is certainly awkward and potentially revealing. I’m not sure which way I’m leaning on it at the moment. > > But: I can absolutely see why people find it worth voting for. In that case, what else really _could_ be said about it than, “me too”? He already said he was playing while on a mobile device that could be auto correct for all we know. I personally think that maybe there should be some latitude given here too. I mean there are SOOOO many players, but so few of us are really posting at the moment. I don’t feel like unless there is something huge ping that I get from reading at this point I am not going to be voting right away. I would love to hear from some of the players that haven’t posted at all. I mean maybe they are watching us all scramble to tie the noose around our own necks. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/178 "2017-01-09T01:31:27Z")
> [@Crys75](#): > > NETA: I personally will give him a little lattitude atm. Acknowledging. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/179 "2017-01-09T01:35:18Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > …I’d stick my dick in the mashed potatoes!😃 See, Faulkner, this why I love you to little bits and pieces. Not only because you embrace my ridiculous fluff, but you get BB jokes! ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/180 "2017-01-09T01:50:05Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Not sure I get your point here, scum could fake claim a role, the real role holder could stay quiet and let the other scum team kill them claimant, but a doc may try to protect the fake claiming scum, so maybe claim after all? Is there really a difference to a normal game? It is different. In a normal game, if scum fake a claim then they are safe from nightkill , as scum are obviously not going to target their own. However, to a separate scum group, the claim looks totally legitimate, and the player is therefore a target. Yes, it leads to dilemmas for both town and scum. Should townies protect? Should scum target them? If scum do get scared off, then that is actually a gain for town. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577.md?page=10)