# Mafia Reunion - Day One **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 7, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577 "2017-01-07T22:01:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 113
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/113 "2017-01-08T16:19:17Z")
OK, working with the idea that we should be looking for tells, here’s where I find mine. This really long, overly sensitive proclamation of innocence on Day 0. I thought it was excessive and a case of “the lady’s doth protest too much” > [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/412): > > **Sinjin, Guiri, Normal Phase** > Is there anything I can help to clear up on why you 3 find me suspicious? Sinjin had questions, so I can address those. The other two just snuggled up behind SJ, so I’ll be here waiting to hear from you guys. > > \*\* Sinjin \*\*: > Do you have issues with me thinking out loud? When I went through the paragraph ([here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19899462&postcount=258)you quote [it](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19898969&postcount=218)), I showed my work. > > You quote portions of my statements, and ask why did I bring up the previous one- because I don’t want to leave them out. If I present only one side of an argument, that’s kinda scummy. I want to consider both sides (and as you pointed me pointing out- I even stated that one option is LESS likely, and the other is more likely). > > Now, you ask why would scum kill the Patsy (your third statement)? Because of what I said afterwards- The Scum factions ALSO have to deal with the WIFOM that the Patsy is a false claim. It’s not likely, but Each scum faction has to worry about the possibility that the OTHER scum faction might have done it. > That doesn’t really matter early game (especially for Town), but late game- the scum group is going to get antys about the idea of a False claiming Patsy, and since it’d add to their kills if it WAS a real patsy, and if it WAS a fake-claim, it’d be pro-Scum to take out the Patsy the further we get into the late game. > > It’s all WIFOM. But it’s more and more WIFOM for the Scum the later it gets into the game with an uncounterclaimed Patsy (who ideally should be town, because… as I noted, it’d be really really risky for scum to counterclaim and trade 1:1 that early in the game, putting them immediately behind the other scum group). Hence the Doc’s get to WIFOM if they want to protect a potential Townie role that ScumA might actually be thinking about killing. > > That’s what I meant by my lines on the matter. > Also, if you notice- I do at the end summarize my thinking aloud with what I actually DO think of the whole matter: \*Basically- all in all- i’m pro-Patsy claiming Day 1, and then we should NOT lynch the Poor patsy day 1 either though. \* > > That’s the takeaway. The rest of it is WIFOM if you’re scum, if you’re a doctor, and if you’re not town. Which is what I want to do. I want to pour WIFOM for scum. I’m not going to make it easier on them. And if you’re scum, you better continue to expect such WIFOM. > > If you’re town, just ask me to clarify, and I will clarify (or I’ll probably clarify on my own, as I did there in that post). > > So now, Sinjin, you’re fine. But **Normal Phase, Guiri**. What’s up? It’s rather easy to jump on and go “me too”, but if you’ve actually got Qs, I’m still alive. Otherwise, I’ll just keep your snuggling in mind for the future. > -R VOTE TOEJAM --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577)._