# Mafia Reunion: Day Seven **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [February 21, 2017, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419 "2017-02-21T22:09:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/182 "2017-02-23T01:52:22Z")
For the record, I’m willing to go in with a set of wirecutters. Im pretty sure we have a set here, maybe in the toolbox. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/183 "2017-02-23T02:03:29Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > For the record, I’m willing to go in with a set of wirecutters. Im pretty sure we have a set here, maybe in the toolbox. Ok. I’ll go in too. Our ancestors can always look upon our bravery with pride if we get blowed up. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/184 "2017-02-23T02:07:07Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > Ok. I’ll go in too. Our ancestors can always look upon our bravery with pride if we get blowed up. Many songs will be sung of us around the campfires. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/185 "2017-02-23T02:20:06Z")
> [@Koldanar](#): > > In for a penny, in for a pound, right? 🙂 > > POWERS: > You are the fly in the ointment, the crack in windowpane, the monkey in the wrench. Your powers sow chaos and confusion, the better to keep you safely hidden in plain sight. In any given cycle, you may use your power either by Day or by Night. Select a primary target, and a secondary target; any power used by the former will be automatically redirected onto the latter. This is an exhausting ability, involving possession and astral projection and a whole lot of Fireball whiskey, so you may never use it in two consecutive Cycles. Could you post your entire role PM? ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/186 "2017-02-23T02:33:11Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Many songs will be sung of us around the campfires. Head shoulders knees and toes? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/187 "2017-02-23T02:48:18Z")
I was thinking “Dem Bones.” ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/188 "2017-02-23T02:54:44Z")
I think a Serial Killer bomb is very unlikely. Her willingness to be lynched looks more like resignation, “I’m caught, dammit”. I’m have no problems being on her lynch wagon. But there is nothing to lose by excusing **MHaye** , just in case… ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/189 "2017-02-23T03:13:39Z")
Klutz, you have a switch, right? Is there any more info you are willing to give us about it? ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/190 "2017-02-23T03:19:35Z")
Okay, boilerplate: vote cookies just in case she is a bomb or something. Second off, I’m getting less comfortable with LUTHA by the minute. The revelation that many of them have powers, and perhaps Cookies was hunting them, makes me believe that we don’t know enough to credit who’s on what side in the final analysis. Third off, vote analysis has been making me crazy–it’s just too easy for scum to hide in the grind of hunting their opposing numbers. As a result I feel completely useless at sniffing out bad behavior. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/191 "2017-02-23T03:44:02Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > It’s like in the movies where there is an unexploded bomb in the compound. We send two or three people in to diffuse the bomb while the rest of the people hide behind the barricade and watch. I wonder if we should cut the blue or the red wire? CUT THE RED WIRE sorry caps lock. ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/192 "2017-02-23T04:18:56Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > \*\* Nanook \*\* subtle you are. > > If you are referencing my idea that there could be a bomb effect lynching \*\* cookies \*\* just say so. > I am prepared to defend the idea- I laid it out in what I thought was plain. > > I am unsure that Town powers should be on that wagon. It is going off the damn cliff for certain. but no need to risk what little power we have left. You can’t see that, fine. > after the lynch you can laugh your butt off at me ( if I am all wet) . but until then… I really, really, really don’t like this argument. You are just making town power roles more vulnerable with this scheme. Not on the lynch wagon…could be a power role! Hey let’s shoot there! (oog)Sorry for not being around…life.(/oog) ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/193 "2017-02-23T04:36:13Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > And I think that there is a reason that Cookies is being so uncooperative. There must be some thing we are missing- whether damage related or win con related. Or she is obstinate. I can’t rule that out completely. I don’t get this reasoning. If you are a PFK and are outed why would you help town who is going to lynch you anyway? Why would you help scum, who are surely voting you off the iceberg too. Cookies is doing what I would expect, going down with snark and dignity. ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/194 "2017-02-23T04:51:35Z")
And while I’m at it: **vote Cookies** ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/195 "2017-02-23T04:59:24Z")
> [@sinjin](#): > > I really, really, really don’t like this argument. You are just making town power roles more vulnerable with this scheme. Not on the lynch wagon…could be a power role! Hey let’s shoot there! > (oog)Sorry for not being around…life.(/oog) did you follow my link ? do you dis believe that a bomb effect is possible? Scum would try to save their butts too- and we can sort them We only have one claimed Town power role I would like to see what their thoughts are on the matter and you may note I threw myself in the que as well to assist in a smoke screen. ( or save my ass- depending on what you are drinking) ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Klutz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captain_klutz/32/4993_2.png) [@Captain\_Klutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Klutz)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/196 "2017-02-23T06:29:01Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Klutz, you have a switch, right? Is there any more info you are willing to give us about it? It’s a switch to a scum power. I would rather not give them any more info about it. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/197 "2017-02-23T06:56:34Z")
Fair 'nuff ---
**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/198 "2017-02-23T08:40:27Z")
**Player list** **The Living** (25): 3. Biotop 6. bufftabby 7. Captain Klutz 10. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 11. crys75 13. [del]DaphneBlack[/del]Lakai 2 - [Not Mafia (Enderw24)] 17. Guiri 19. hawkeyeop 21. HookerChemical 25. Johnny Bravo 27. Khameleon 28. Koldanar 30. LightFoot - [Not Mafia (Enderw24)] 32. MHaye - Watcher 33. Nanook of the North Shore 34. Nesta 37. Plumpudding 38. [del]Precambrian mollusk[/del]Cygnus 42 40. Raventhief 44. Scathach 46. sinjin 47. snfaulkner 50. Texcat 53. Total Lost 55. Zeriel **The Deceased** (30): 12. Dante G – ModKilled D1 –Vanilla Town 29. Lakai 1 – Lynched D1 - Vanilla Town 35. Normal Phase – Daykilled D1 - Investigative Journalist 45. septimus – Daykilled D1 - EMT - [Killed by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies (MHaye)] 48. Suburban Plankton – Nightkiled N1 (1) Homicide Detective 9. Colby11 – Nightkilled N1 – Vanilla Town 5. brewha – Lynched D2 – Vanilla Town 8. Chronos – Daykilled D2 - Mason 15. Drain Bead - Nightkilled N2 - Leprechaun 41. Red Skeezix - Modkilled D3 - Vanilla Town 43. Sario – poofed D3 - Wizard 23. Idle Thoughts - Lynched D3 - Vanilla Town 26. jsgoddess - Daykilled D3 - Beta Wolf 51. Thing Fish - Daykilled D3 - Omega Wolf 1. AngeloftheNorth - Nightkilled N3 - Vanilla Town 2. Toejam - Nightkilled N3 - Doctor Seward - [Killed by Mafia Hitman Hal Briston (MHaye)] 3. DiggitCamara - Lynched D4 - Vanilla Town 4. Boozahol Squid, P.I. - Lynched D4 - Outrider 5. Pleonast - Daykilled D4 - Seer 6. BillMc - Nightkilled N4 - Whelp 7. Sunny Daze - Nightkilled N4 - Informant 8. Hockey Monkey - Nightkilled N4 - Consigliere - [Killed by Wolves (MHaye)] 9. Prof. Pepperwinkle - Lynched D5 - Vanilla Town 10. Sachertorte - Daykilled D5 - First Deacon 11. [del]Winston Smith[/del]Paulwhoisaghost - Nightkilled N5 - Vanilla Town - [Killed by Wolves (MHaye)] 12. Meeko - Modkilled D6 - Vanilla Town 13. Inner Stickler - Lynched D6 - Vanilla Town 14. Hoopy Frood - Daykilled D6 - alternative universe Batman 15. EnderW24 - Nightkilled N6 - Understudy (Investigative Journalist) 16. Hal Briston - Nightkilled N6 - Hitman _Alive:_\* Town (7 confirmable, 6 vanilla): A Townsperson x7 The Patsy - Miller The Watcher - Day and Night cycle wather - MHaye The Basement-Based Tinkerer - Night action, each only once: reset all switches to on; previous Day and Night watcher; block Consigliere and Omega Wolf for next Day-Night cycle. A Mason x3 The Zoning Inspector - Day roleblocker Cult (4): Second Deacon - Investigate looking for other cult until successful - crys75 Pontiff - Every-other cycle redirector - Koldanar Other x2 SK (1): ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies Mafia (4): The Godfather - First kill of them will fail The Bodyguard - Night protect, but dies instead The Mook - One time use power of dead teammate The Enforcer - Roleblocker for following Day and Night Wolves (3): The Alpha Wolf - First kill of them will fail The Bloodhound - Day tracker The Trickster - Roleblicker for current Day and following Night - Claims included with a grain of salt. ---
**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/199 "2017-02-23T08:44:34Z")
**Vote ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** I am concerned that she’s going out without a fight. She could have claimed non-exclusive wincon and offered to work with Town, but instead she raised her middle finger and didn’t volunteer any information we could use. She could be a bomb, but I doubt it. Occam’s razor is that she hasn’t been participating much, so isn’t very invested, so now that she’s caught she might as well fuck with everyone, get lynched, and then she doesn’t have to worry about this game anymore. My paranoid side says that she might have a wincon that is advanced if she’s lynched, or she thinks that one more kill before lynch can achieve her wincon. But I’ve learned not to trust my paranoid side. The rules: > [@Mafia Reunion - NIGHT ZERO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-night-zero/776315/2): > > RULES AND REGULATIONS > \*\*Win Conditions > \*\*Win conditions will be checked in the following order every Dawn and every Dusk: > [ol] > [li]Town Wins! if all 14 Scum players are dead.[/li][li]Mafia Wins! if the total number of living Mafia is greater than or equal to 50% of the total population AND greater than the number of living Wolves.[/li][li]Wolves Win! if the total number of living Wolves is greater than or equal to 50% of the total population AND greater than the number of living Mafia.[/li][li]Third party win conditions are checked after checking all three of the above. Thus, a Town win supersedes an exclusive third party win even if both occur simultaneously.[/li][/ol] It worries me that exclusive third party win conditions are mentioned. The cult claims non-exclusive, but maybe **Cookies** is exclusive. If so, a traditional SK role doesn’t seem to fit this setup, and would be almost impossible to pull off. I think her wincon isn’t to just survive and then be an exclusive winner. If she’s exclusive I think her wincon probably has an easier objective. The theories that she has a list of roles she needs to kill, or eliminating the cult, are worth considering. That said, I think she was caught out before she had a chance to fulfill her wincon, and if she’s a Jester of some sort that’s a bastard mod game that I don’t mind losing. > [@LightFoot](#): > > and you may note I threw myself in the que as well to assist in a smoke screen. ( or save my ass- depending on what you are drinking) I do note your heroic act of hiding in the bunker while the rest of us poke the bomb with sticks. I understand your concern that **Cookies** is a bomb, but your unvote was premature. We have days yet to figure this out, and you could have pushed the discussion of the possibility without the unvote. You seem afraid. Your self-sacrifice to expand the pool of unvotes comes off as false. Are you a town power-role [rhetorical]? If so, why draw attention to yourself? Or are you cult looking to just survive? Or scum looking for an easy excuse to back away from a perceived threat? Ping. ---
**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/200 "2017-02-23T08:51:16Z")
> [@HookerChemical](#): > > I’m guessing this will be a relatively calm day after that Dawn, so it’s time to broach the topic: > > _ **Is it time for some or all power roles to claim?** _ > > There are three Masons and a Patsy who make an obvious pool for a limited claim. Obviously, everybody would be involved in a mass claim, which is a little like herding cats. There’s also LUTHA, representing a claimed pool of four, who have been the topic of debate since Day 3. > > I lean toward the limited (Patsy, Masons, LUTHA) claim. If my above list is correct we have 25 players left, 7 confirmable town roles, 6 vanilla, 4 cult, 1 SK, 4 mafia, and 3 wolves. If only non-power town roles claim it’s 3 Masons and the Patsy, plus MHaye. I don’t think that’s enough right now to make a difference. Even if we take the two claimed cultists and SK into account that only takes the player pool from 25 to 17. If we go for a mass claim, though, that gets us to 12, with 7 scum hiding in a pool of 13 vanillas (unless they claim confirmable roles, which is hopefully an easy thing to sort out). Cult could refuse to cooperate, but that just adds them to the likely lynch pool, so I hope they would come clean. Those odds are starting to feel compelling. Not Today, but in the next few Days I think this game starts to get much more solvable. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/201 "2017-02-23T13:00:41Z")
Well, dammit, I’ve been drinking bourbon and playing god damn portal for the last 3 or 4 hrs. Dammit. I mean, I’m only like an hour or so late in going to bed, but still. I hope all you jerks are happy to have given me yet another shitty excuse to not do chores and make the wifey hate me…cause I’m pretty sure I’ll be playing that damn game the entire 48 hrs of my weekend. …dammit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419.md?page=11)