# Mafia Reunion: Day Seven **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [February 21, 2017, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419 "2017-02-21T22:09:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/222 "2017-02-23T22:32:07Z")
> [@Koldanar](#): > > I have thrown the switch every night. I don’t know who, or what, has altered it on the nights she has made kills. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/223 "2017-02-23T22:53:27Z")
> [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](#): > > The various people that have volunteered to take one for the team? Yeah, you just helped scum by narrowing the pool for powers. This is what I meant when I said that trying to avoid the theoretical bomb was more likely to cause harm than help. I saw a potential threat- I shared the information and a solution. Anyone who sees a potential threat to Town should do the same- If you don’t like me because of it- so be it. there are 6 players currently not voting cookies I am the only one explaining why. Dance with that if I wake up dead. ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/224 "2017-02-23T23:04:57Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > \*\* Hooker \*\* for one, (maybe others) is not discounting my idea ( post #168 and forward). I agree with others that a bomb or similar retribution mechanic are unlikely, but there’s still a chance. If we reduce the number of people voting for Cookies, we reduce the potential damage. If Cookies is still the runaway candidate as EOD nears, I intend to remove my vote and state who any backup candidates are without casting a vote. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/225 "2017-02-23T23:05:41Z")
Evening all. I’ve been sitting and mulling over LightFoot’s idea as she brought it out. IN all honesty, an unsupported “this could be the case” doesn’t convince me. DarkCookies comes across to me as someone who’s strategy had been undermined by her outing, and doesn’t want to support either side. There does seem to be a consensus, among those who expressed an opinion, that I should remove my vote. I’ve taken it under advisement. I will decide before Dusk, but that is many hours away yet. This reread has led me to the realisation that I never reported on activities at _chez_ guiri last Night. guiri had no visitors. I’d say it was as quiet as the grave, but I never go there, remember? I’ll take suggestions for who to watch, provided the suggestion is backed up by some sort of reasons for suspicion. No reasons, I’ll watch someone else. Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/226 "2017-02-23T23:08:54Z")
> [@HookerChemical](#): > > I agree with others that a bomb or similar retribution mechanic are unlikely, but there’s still a chance. If we reduce the number of people voting for Cookies, we reduce the potential damage. If Cookies is still the runaway candidate as EOD nears, I intend to remove my vote and state who any backup candidates are without casting a vote. that is my intent as well. Granted I am dancing with the info I quoted about the AI unit - but I could not ignore it having read it. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/227 "2017-02-24T00:07:12Z")
> [@HookerChemical](#): > > I agree with others that a bomb or similar retribution mechanic are unlikely, but there’s still a chance. If we reduce the number of people voting for Cookies, we reduce the potential damage. If Cookies is still the runaway candidate as EOD nears, I intend to remove my vote and state who any backup candidates are without casting a vote. curious- why not place a vote on your “back up” candidate? ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/228 "2017-02-24T01:23:47Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > curious- why not place a vote on your “back up” candidate? Not having other candidates reduces potential that a back-up could be lynched instead through carelessness or manipulation. I don’t think the vote record toDay will tell us much about who’s scum, so I’m not too concerned about preserving the integrity of that record. (See Idle’s lynch for a Day where I don’t think we gain much from the recrod.) ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/229 "2017-02-24T01:32:01Z")
> [@Scathach](#): > > > [@Koldanar](#): > > > > Sorry, I am even more distracted today than I am on other days. > > > > I’m an every other cycle redirector. This means, once per ‘cycle’, as the mods put it, I can take an action, and redirect it. So if I did this day 1, then I can’t on night 1, day 2, night 2, but can again once day 3 dawns. > > > > And so far nothing at all has come of this. I’ve been trying to use it to suss scum out, but nothing has happened, as far as I can tell. I get no feedback on what happens. I’ve tried to redirect those I was suspicious of, to see what I could find. > > > > Night 1 - Chronos. Known Mason, so nothing would have happened. > > Night 3 - EnderW. I’m a little confused here, so I need to look back at his post - was he already the IJ then? (On re-read - he picked the day power, so at night nothing would happen). > > Day 6 - TexCat. > > > > I can’t do anything again until the 8th dawn. I have no other abilities, and I do not know anyone else in LUTHA. > > To go back to this. Your wincondition is simply to survive or have one of your team survive right? So, without being funny, why are you trying to suss scum out? Why wouldn’t you be trying to suss your LUTHA teammates out and then using your redirection to protect them? **I feel like this is getting lost in the noise a little, but I’d really like to hear other peoples opinions on it.** ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/230 "2017-02-24T01:51:43Z")
> [@Scathach](#): > > **I feel like this is getting lost in the noise a little, but I’d really like to hear other peoples opinions on it.** He posted his role PM upthread. > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by NAF1138 > Welcome to the game; you are The Pontiff of the Cult of Lutha > > ALIGNMENT: Third Party (Non-Hostile) > **YOU WIN along with all members of the Cult, living or dead, if any of the five Cultists of Lutha are alive when the game ends in any other way**. > > BACKGROUND: > Some people venerate wealth or power, or chase sirens of fame or possessions. Not you. You care nothing for the bloodlust of the Werewolves, or the base greed and pinstripes of the Mafia, or even for the pleasant camaraderie of the Town. You are the Cult of Lutha, and your numbers are legion. Actually, your numbers are five. You don’t know one another’s names or faces, but so long as even one of you remains alive, the principles of Lutha will triumph in the end. > > (Postscript: “Lutha” stands for “Leave Us the Hell Alone.” You are no threat to any side. Good luck convincing them of this). > > POWERS: > You are the fly in the ointment, the crack in windowpane, the monkey in the wrench. Your powers sow chaos and confusion, the better to keep you safely hidden in plain sight. In any given cycle, you may use your power either by Day or by Night. Select a primary target, and a secondary target; any power used by the former will be automatically redirected onto the latter. This is an exhausting ability, involving possession and astral projection and a whole lot of Fireball whiskey, so you may never use it in two consecutive Cycles. Bolding mine. This assuming he (and cys) haven’t edited their PM’s. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/231 "2017-02-24T01:53:17Z")
Dammit, hit post too quick. Anyway, why does it bother you that he’s scum hunting (or so it appears)? ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/232 "2017-02-24T01:54:32Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > He posted his role PM upthread. > > Bolding mine. This assuming he (and cys) haven’t edited their PM’s. Yes that’s my point. He said he used his power to try to suss out scum. If I was third party with a third party wincon then as soon as crys and sach claimed I’d have been all about trying to protect them. Why would he, as 3rd party, try to suss out scum? The motivation doesn’t feel legitimate. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/233 "2017-02-24T01:57:22Z")
> [@Scathach](#): > > Yes that’s my point. He said he used his power to try to suss out scum. If I was third party with a third party wincon then as soon as crys and sach claimed I’d have been all about trying to protect them. Why would he, as 3rd party, try to suss out scum? > > The motivation doesn’t feel legitimate. I’m waiting to see what cookies flips before I get too concerned. If she flips Lutha affiliated, than I will probable advocate luthacide. Or at least I won’t try to stop it. ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/234 "2017-02-24T01:57:57Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Dammit, hit post too quick. > > Anyway, why does it bother you that he’s scum hunting (or so it appears)? Because according to his role PM he has no reason to do so. And also according to his role PM, he is part of a 3rd party team that he doesn’t know the members of. So, if that was my role, I’d be mainly focused on trying to find the rest of my team. He has no real motivation to find scum except to appear townie, once sach and crys claimed surely he should be trying to redirect doctors onto them or something? Instead he’s like, oh I wanted to flush scum out? Why? What benefit to him is there to flush scum out ? ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/235 "2017-02-24T01:59:51Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > I’m waiting to see what cookies flips before I get too concerned. If she flips Lutha affiliated, than I will probable advocate luthacide. Or at least I won’t try to stop it. I’m not trying to swing the vote from Cookies. Cookies is SK basically admitted, so no problem, instalynch. But for tomorrow, I’m super dubious of Koldanar’s claim. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/236 "2017-02-24T02:01:50Z")
> [@Scathach](#): > > I’m not trying to swing the vote from Cookies. Cookies is SK basically admitted, so no problem, instalynch. But for tomorrow, I’m super dubious of Koldanar’s claim. No, i know you weren’t trying to swing the votes away from her, I’m just saying luthas currently aren’t concerning me, unless cookie is one of em. ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/237 "2017-02-24T02:06:16Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > No, i know you weren’t trying to swing the votes away from her, I’m just saying luthas currently aren’t concerning me, unless cookie is one of em. Ok but Cookie is an autolynch now, so we can either waste the day talking about her or discuss other points. Like, am I reading too much into this? If so, fine, but I don’t follow his line of reactions. (“oh, I’m a 3rd party with no motivation to find scum, but for some reason I will use my power to try and find scum”). If he said, oh well, I need to seem townie so I’ll do my best to scumhunt to seem townie that’s one thing. But his is a team that wins by finding each other and surviving. He’s claiming that from D1 he tried to use his power for scumhunting? And even after two members of his team claimed, he continued to use his power solely for scumhunting? ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/238 "2017-02-24T02:07:51Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > I’ll take suggestions for who to watch, provided the suggestion is backed up by some sort of reasons for suspicion. No reasons, I’ll watch someone else. > > Cheers. It would probably be a bad idea for people to give you suggestions. All the killers have been either found or killed. You can only spot players with powers, who can easily not use their powers if they think they’ll be targeted. Best to pick a player in secret and hope for the best. Vote Cookies because we need to slow down the number of deaths. A longer game benefits the Town. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/239 "2017-02-24T02:10:22Z")
> [@Scathach](#): > > Ok but Cookie is an autolynch now, so we can either waste the day talking about her or discuss other points. > > Like, am I reading too much into this? If so, fine, but I don’t follow his line of reactions. (“oh, I’m a 3rd party with no motivation to find scum, but for some reason I will use my power to try and find scum”). > > If he said, oh well, I need to seem townie so I’ll do my best to scumhunt to seem townie that’s one thing. But his is a team that wins by finding each other and surviving. He’s claiming that from D1 he tried to use his power for scumhunting? And even after two members of his team claimed, he continued to use his power solely for scumhunting? Gotcha. I let him answer those questions. ---
**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/240 "2017-02-24T02:43:34Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Gotcha. I let him answer those questions. Typing one handed here, putting my son to bed, so don’t mind any auto correct weirdness. I’m not sure how I would protect the others, without knowing power roles and redirecting them. And if I find one, then I only get one redirect every two days. Seems easier to scum hunt, honestly. ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/241 "2017-02-24T04:05:03Z")
> [@Koldanar](#): > > Typing one handed here, putting my son to bed, so don’t mind any auto correct weirdness. > > I’m not sure how I would protect the others, without knowing power roles and redirecting them. And if I find one, then I only get one redirect every two days. Seems easier to scum hunt, honestly. I think the question is why you are doing what you are doing? Directing from an unknown to an unknown is kind of pointless, not knowing anything about either of them. On the other hand if you redirected actions from Crys or Sachertorte to an unknown that would make more sense from a cult winning perspective as all actions directed at 3p would probably be of unkind intent. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419.md?page=13)