# Mafia Reunion: Day Seven **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [February 21, 2017, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419 "2017-02-21T22:09:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/162 "2017-02-23T00:51:48Z")
If I were a serial killer in this game with the objective of killing LUTHA, I would not have targeted sach or Crys, especially in the Days immediately following the claim. They’ve been perpetual back burner lynch candidates. Their continued survival encourages other LUTHA claims. If they get offed over the course of the game, great. In the meantime, you’re hunting the depths for the other three targets. If you kill them, you know where the last targets are for your mission. ---
**Author:** ![Khameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dec6dc/32.png) [@Khameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khameleon)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/163 "2017-02-23T00:53:55Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > The turrets ([here](http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/Aperture_Science_Sentry_Turret)) have machine guns. “Hail of bullets” fits nicely with that, though the molotov cocktail doesn’t seem to. I thought that maybe Sachertorte had 2 hits - one from the SK and maybe the molotov cocktail was a Mafia hit? ---
**Author:** ![Khameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dec6dc/32.png) [@Khameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khameleon)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/164 "2017-02-23T00:56:01Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > snippity… I don’t know anything about Portals or GladOS other than what has been posted in this thread, but that sure sounds like a Mafia hit to me. You must play Portal! No, really! ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/165 "2017-02-23T00:56:07Z")
> [@HookerChemical](#): > > If I were a serial killer in this game with the objective of killing LUTHA, I would not have targeted sach or Crys, especially in the Days immediately following the claim. They’ve been perpetual back burner lynch candidates. Their continued survival encourages other LUTHA claims. If they get offed over the course of the game, great. In the meantime, you’re hunting the depths for the other three targets. If you kill them, you know where the last targets are for your mission. This makes some sense, but I feel like sachertorte lived waaaaay too long…maybe if Koldonar answers my question about if and when he flipped the switch, maybe that would explain why. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/166 "2017-02-23T00:57:09Z")
> [@Khameleon](#): > > You must play Portal! No, really! It sounds cool! I’ll see if I can remember to look it up when I get home tonight. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/167 "2017-02-23T00:58:49Z")
> [@Koldanar](#): > > In for a penny, in for a pound, right? 🙂 > > POWERS: > You are the fly in the ointment, the crack in windowpane, the monkey in the wrench. Your powers sow chaos and confusion, the better to keep you safely hidden in plain sight. In any given cycle, you may use your power either by Day or by Night. Select a primary target, and a secondary target; any power used by the former will be automatically redirected onto the latter. This is an exhausting ability, involving possession and astral projection and a whole lot of Fireball whiskey, so you may never use it in two consecutive Cycles. > [@LightFoot](#): > > this does not wash > > who did you redirect them to? and why? and ------------ I agree we need more **Koldanar** , did you ever answer this from Lightfoot? Ender investigated ToeJam on D3 and got that he wasn’t mafia. Who did you redirect Ender to? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/168 "2017-02-23T01:00:44Z")
> [@Khameleon](#): > > I thought that maybe Sachertorte had 2 hits - one from the SK and maybe the molotov cocktail was a Mafia hit? The cocktail did come an hour later. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/169 "2017-02-23T01:01:33Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > **Koldanar** , did you ever answer this from Lightfoot? Ender investigated ToeJam on D3 and got that he wasn’t mafia. Who did you redirect Ender to? Yeah, but Koldanar already said he redirected at night, not day. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/170 "2017-02-23T01:03:30Z")
> [@Khameleon](#): > > I thought that maybe Sachertorte had 2 hits - one from the SK and maybe the molotov cocktail was a Mafia hit? > [@raventhief](#): > > The cocktail did come an hour later. Hmmm… ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/171 "2017-02-23T01:08:07Z")
How’s this for a reduced risk SK lynch: only a few (3? is that enough for people to be comfortable?) people vote for her. There’s no threshold to secure the first lynch, so even a single voter (or two to prevent Cookies from creating a tie) could secure the lynch while putting few at risk at a retaliation kill. And nobody else votes to reduce risk of scummy shenanigans. ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/172 "2017-02-23T01:09:31Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > We can’t hammer, and I’m certainly willing to talk to cookies… but i didn’t get very far last night. Crys, were you able to investigate her? No I got distracted by RL stuff Sent from my XT1526 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/173 "2017-02-23T01:10:23Z")
> [@HookerChemical](#): > > How’s this for a reduced risk SK lynch: only a few (3? is that enough for people to be comfortable?) people vote for her. There’s no threshold to secure the first lynch, so even a single voter (or two to prevent Cookies from creating a tie) could secure the lynch while putting few at risk at a retaliation kill. > > And nobody else votes to reduce risk of scummy shenanigans. I think that is way too few and itself invites other shenanigans. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/174 "2017-02-23T01:15:30Z")
\*\*Day 7 Vote Count Cookies(14): Texcat(4), Hooker(6), Johnnybravo(7), Mhaye(12), Biotop(34), raventhief(36), snfaulkner(37), Captainklutz(38), Koldanar(65), Nanook(66), Hawkeyeop(69), bufftabby(89), plumpudding(110), Guiri(111) Cookies is not have what we would call a good Day. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/175 "2017-02-23T01:19:40Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > @Hooker, what’s the benefit of a claim toMorrow? Apart from the masons, isn’t there just the Tinkerer? There are up to 7 town that could claim power roles and 4 LUTHA from a pool of 17 town/LUTHA. That leaves a small pool of 6 vanilla townies for 7 scum to hide among. Fake power role claims make it a little more difficult to work out, but it still makes for very small pools for scum to hide. > [@LightFoot](#): > > living 25 > 3. Biotop > 6. bufftabby > 7. Captain Klutz > 10. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies SK > 11. crys75 \_cult? > 13.DaphneBlackLakai 2 Not Mafia > 17. Guiri > 19. hawkeyeop > 21. HookerChemical > 25. Johnny Bravo > 27. Khameleon > 28. Koldanar > 30. LightFoot not Mafia > 32. MHaye ?watcher > 33. Nanook of the North Shore > 34. Nesta > 37. Plumpudding > 38.Precambrian molluskCygnus 42 > 40. Raventhief > 44. Scathach > 46. sinjin > 47. snfaulkner > 50. Texcat > 53. Total Lost > 55. Zeriel > > 25 living players > 3 Wolves > 4 Mafia > 4 LUTHA > 1 SK > 13 possible Town? > DOES this look accurate? ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/176 "2017-02-23T01:19:56Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > but what did \*\* Kolandar \*\* Think it was? > > and WHY sit on information that could maybe help Town understand the game better- knowing there was an additional faction ( entity) out there??? > BAH > and \*\* crys \*\*\*\* claims LUTHA would benefit playing pro-Town. > > \*\* where IS \*\* crys \*\* in this? Reading. That’s where I am. I’m going to investigate kolander tonight then Sent from my XT1526 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/177 "2017-02-23T01:25:28Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > I think that is way too few and itself invites other shenanigans. The exact number is a matter of who wants to take the risk and we can figure out the right number after we agree that it’s conceptually solid (or isn’t). What shenanigans do you fear? Any votes on anybody other than Cookies will be made publicly. If Cookies lives, we know where to turn after she slips the noose. And scum don’t have incentive to let a SK live any longer than town. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/178 "2017-02-23T01:34:55Z")
> [@HookerChemical](#): > > The exact number is a matter of who wants to take the risk and we can figure out the right number after we agree that it’s conceptually solid (or isn’t). > > What shenanigans do you fear? Any votes on anybody other than Cookies will be made publicly. If Cookies lives, we know where to turn after she slips the noose. And scum don’t have incentive to let a SK live any longer than town. I fear the unknown shenanigans. And spiders. And unknown spider shenanigans (spidernagans? shenaniders?) are right out. You make good points, but I’m still uneasy. ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/179 "2017-02-23T01:43:41Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > since \*\* crys and sach \*\* were outed earlier, how do explain them living as long as they have/did? > again- you were/are familiar with ‘the portal’ you noticed the death colour- and YOU didn’t say a word? > > re; the underlined by me-Mafia has not been keen (yet) on offing LUTHA and the SK we know of ( who you think is a threat to LUTHA) is on their way out - so- what? Maybe they can only win while killing the lutha before the group is discovered or claimed Sent from my XT1526 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/180 "2017-02-23T01:47:11Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > the bug in my ear is that \*\* koldanar \*\* (s) was under no pressure when they claimed. > > and repeating myself yet again > \*\* crys \*\* where are you on this Again I have no ideas of what other members powers are. I can investigate koldanar to night Sent from my XT1526 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419/181 "2017-02-23T01:48:55Z")
> [@HookerChemical](#): > > The exact number is a matter of who wants to take the risk and we can figure out the right number after we agree that it’s conceptually solid (or isn’t). > > What shenanigans do you fear? Any votes on anybody other than Cookies will be made publicly. If Cookies lives, we know where to turn after she slips the noose. And scum don’t have incentive to let a SK live any longer than town. It’s like in the movies where there is an unexploded bomb in the compound. We send two or three people in to diffuse the bomb while the rest of the people hide behind the barricade and watch. I wonder if we should cut the blue or the red wire? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-seven/780419.md?page=10)