# Mafia Reunion - Day Three **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 24, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068 "2017-01-24T20:43:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/501 "2017-01-27T15:39:30Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > I have been reading for over two hours. I’ve gone back over N0 and am at Post 1001 on D1. > > Anyone looking for a lynch candidate who hasn’t posted much and has posted mainly fluff (even more than I) might want to take a look at **MHaye**. > > I’m going back to my reading now. What the hell? Why aren’t you reading up on MHaye and reporting back to us? > [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > I agree with your assessment of Thing Fish’s analysis… with one objection. How have I been hypocritical? I fully admit that I was wrong about Brewha and that it does make for a strong case against me. I am aware that I played a pretty vocal role in Brewha’s lynch in spite of the possibility he was telling the truth. Im not building cases againdt players based on their participation in Brewha’s lynch. So please detail how I am being hypocritical. I’m not sure I agree that you are not building cases against brewha voters. You may not be vocally building a case, but I thought there was a post that pondered whether brewha voters were aware of the implications of what would happen if brewha was telling the truth. I haven’t been taking detailed notes, because, you know, lazy. But that is my recollection. > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > My thought process is very simple. If ToeJam is telling the truth, the scum will want to get rid of him. If he’s not dead by Day 5, I start looking squinty-eyed at him. Which is all well and good, but why would you publicly announce this? > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Well, if I hadn’t put my vote on **sachertorte** , I’d have put it on **Idle** (who is on my list) because he’s playing as he does when he’s not happy with his role. Is that more what you had in mind? What about MHaye? All that reading and no opinion on MHaye? > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Having said that, since no one’s going to vote on sachertorte with me, and I’ve mentioned my other suspects… > > **[COLOR="Blue"vote Idle Thoughts**. > > Which is probably too little too late. I do have to admit that a Prof. P going after me is the sort of ‘bold move’ that scum are not really interested in trying. Though the whole 3rd Party thing complicates that signficantly. Jumping on an already moving wagon is much more reasonable for scum. Hard for me to really judge though, since I’m involved. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/502 "2017-01-27T15:46:15Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > Didn’t your studies of lurking in the previous games lead you to conclude LTL was no better than an average guess? At least that’s the way I remember it from Giraffe. > > If we can’t trust our logic and psychology then we depend on luck/power roles to win the game. What fun is that? I don’t think you really believe what you are arguing. > > **Vote Prof. Pepperwinkle** No, actually, my studies showed me that picking out one particular person was only as good as average. It does have an 85% success rate at picking a smaller group of candidates. I stopped using it over on Giraffe because I was very tired of being voted for every time I mentioned it, and had picked up enough Meta to compensate. We’re also down 11 Town now and 0 Scum. (Granted, only two of those were due to Town lynching Town.) A lot of the Town turned out to be power roles. I have to figure my method is better than whatever psychology is going on. Again, I apologize for my poor playing. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/503 "2017-01-27T15:48:36Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > What the hell? Why aren’t you reading up on MHaye and reporting back to us? > > [snip] > > What about MHaye? All that reading and no opinion on MHaye? > > [snip] MHaye is on my list of suspects. I put his name out there because he’s just the sort of candidate that players like LightFoot enjoy voting for: not a lot of posts, and most of it fluff. I still don’t buy the Cult claim, either. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/504 "2017-01-27T15:50:07Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > Which is all well and good, but why would you publicly announce this? Point. That being said, I’m questioning whether I should re-evaluate since I think ToeJam makes some good points. This isn’t a regular mafia game and it’s possible that scum simply don’t care about the doc as much as they might or given the heat ToeJam has taken already, perhaps their calculus finds it better to leave him alive especially if his protections don’t affect their kills. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/505 "2017-01-27T15:58:40Z")
Okay, mea culpa. Work has been destroying my time this week, like “meetings running until 6:30+” every day so far. I’ll try to catch back up on Saturday. ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/506 "2017-01-27T16:17:43Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > No, actually, my studies showed me that picking out one particular person was only as good as average. It does have an 85% success rate at picking a smaller group of candidates. > > I stopped using it over on Giraffe because I was very tired of being voted for every time I mentioned it, and had picked up enough Meta to compensate. > > We’re also down 11 Town now and 0 Scum. (Granted, only two of those were due to Town lynching Town.) A lot of the Town turned out to be power roles. I have to figure my method is better than whatever psychology is going on. > > Again, I apologize for my poor playing. I strongly believe after this post that Prof. P is town. Not that anyone’s going to listen to me, but really, I’d like to see someone else lynched. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/507 "2017-01-27T16:22:47Z")
What about that post reinforces your impression of Prof. as town? ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/508 "2017-01-27T16:29:12Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > This is wildly misrepresenting the whole thrust of my attitude towards the cultists. If you were doing a keyword search for “cultists,” why didn’t you start on my **first** post using that keyword in #715? Or (if you’d bothered to follow the thread of the topic that **you** are rereading back just a little ways) even the first time I mentioned the cult at all in #610? > > There’s no “sudden” change in my attitude towards these guys. > > In D2#960 I used the phrase “if they are real” twice, and I’m discussing the cultists in the context of my plan, the entire point of which is to confirm that the cultists are not scum. Post D2#990 is me clarifying a facet of that same plan. > > You said you did a keyword search for “cultist” in D2 but then, in your analysis, you excluded posts of mine that included that keyword. You used the word “suddenly” to try and paint a clarification of an existing conversation as me being wishy-washy, when I’ve been damned consistent in my opinion of what to do with the cultists. The only thing that’s changed is my agreement that if all five cultists were to claim, lynching one would be unnecessary, but that’s 100% consistent with my initial desire to confirm them as being an actual 3P rather than masquerading scum. > > So - what the hell? I’d say that skimming is a scum tell, but you did a keyword-based reread and managed to completely misrepresent even the posts of mine that involve the keyword. My mistake. The keyword I used was “hostile”. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/509 "2017-01-27T16:29:29Z")
Well, it’s impossible for me to play in this game, it’s just too large, moves too fast, there’s too much to catch up on all the time…and I’ve been far too busy. **EITHER LYNCH ME, MODKILL ME, OR SUB ME OUT…thanks.** Sorry to have to do it, but I just can’t find the time to play. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/510 "2017-01-27T16:30:24Z")
Being that I’m just plain, useless vanilla anyway, it won’t be much of a loss. ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/511 "2017-01-27T16:30:27Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > This is wildly misrepresenting the whole thrust of my attitude towards the cultists. If you were doing a keyword search for “cultists,” why didn’t you start on my **first** post using that keyword in #715? Or (if you’d bothered to follow the thread of the topic that **you** are rereading back just a little ways) even the first time I mentioned the cult at all in #610? > > There’s no “sudden” change in my attitude towards these guys. > > In D2#960 I used the phrase “if they are real” twice, and I’m discussing the cultists in the context of my plan, the entire point of which is to confirm that the cultists are not scum. Post D2#990 is me clarifying a facet of that same plan. > > You said you did a keyword search for “cultist” in D2 but then, in your analysis, you excluded posts of mine that included that keyword. You used the word “suddenly” to try and paint a clarification of an existing conversation as me being wishy-washy, when I’ve been damned consistent in my opinion of what to do with the cultists. The only thing that’s changed is my agreement that if all five cultists were to claim, lynching one would be unnecessary, but that’s 100% consistent with my initial desire to confirm them as being an actual 3P rather than masquerading scum. > > So - what the hell? I’d say that skimming is a scum tell, but you did a keyword-based reread and managed to completely misrepresent even the posts of mine that involve the keyword. It’s not perfect and I’m not trying to misrepresent you at all. Please clarify your position on the cultists so that I know exactly where you are at now. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/512 "2017-01-27T16:30:28Z")
**VOTE COUNT** **Professor Pepperwinkle** (10 votes) Texcat (278), jsgoddess (332), paulwhoisaghost (343), Pleonast (345), Inner Stickler (347), Lightfoot (354), Hockey Monkey (367), ToeJam (408), bufftabby (420), Biotop (458) **Idle Thoughts** (4 votes) Sunny Daze (182), raventhief (207), Hal Briston (300), ProfP (38) **Boozahol Squid PI** (3 votes) Hoopy Frood (286), AngeloftheNorth (303), Captain Klutz (487) **ToeJam** (3 votes) HookerChemical (9), BillMc (23), sinjin (53) **Enderw24** (2 votes) Nanook (28), Crys75 (34) Players with One Vote Khameleon (Meeko - 319), Pleonast (Plumpudding - 222), Crys75 (Boozahol Squid PI - 499) * * * Day Three will end at 3:00PM on Sunday, January 29, or in a bit more than 48 hours. Day actions are as always due by this time. If they Day were to end right now, **ProfP** would be lynched. I’ll provide a list of living players, with modkill status, presently. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/513 "2017-01-27T16:38:32Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > My mistake. The keyword I used was “hostile”. > > Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk :dubious::dubious::dubious::dubious: 1. Why would you use the word “hostile” to do a search for conversations about cultists? However, even taking that into account… 2. Neither of the two posts of mine that you cited have the word “hostile” in them anywhere. So again, what gives? ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/514 "2017-01-27T16:38:49Z")
> [@Plumpudding](#): > > What about that post reinforces your impression of Prof. as town? His apology is sincere. I just feel these things, 75% of the time I’m right when it’s real and not bullshit. _Especially_ in the circumstances where objective evidence would seem to indicate the opposite. I know some of you will pull your hair out at this statement- I got told I suck as town for years because this is how I play, and I didn’t get decent as town until I learned to not care and trust it. But I’ll try to offer you objective evidence too for those of you that need it. (I’m half-convinced now that my “empathic” abilities are just picking up on evidence subconsciously and being unable to articulate what that evidence is. ) He’s being inconsistent as hell. That is a general TOWN tell, not a general SCUM tell. Scum are caught by one inconsistency, not being all over the place. And every bandwagon that built this fast in this game has been on town. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/515 "2017-01-27T16:40:05Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > Well, it’s impossible for me to play in this game, it’s just too large, moves too fast, there’s too much to catch up on all the time…and I’ve been far too busy. > > **EITHER LYNCH ME, MODKILL ME, OR SUB ME OUT…thanks.** > Sorry to have to do it, but I just can’t find the time to play. If this is the case why bother to come back at all. If you are vanilla town, a modkill would have been way better to you returning. Now, IMO, we should Lynch you. \*\* Unvote Professor Perriwinkle \*\* \*\* Vote Idle Thoughts \*\* Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/516 "2017-01-27T16:41:24Z")
As usual, your reasoning is foolish, **Paul.** How many times will you have to be wrong about me before you learn\> ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/517 "2017-01-27T16:42:13Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > I’m not sure I agree that you are not building cases against brewha voters. You may not be vocally building a case, but I thought there was a post that pondered whether brewha voters were aware of the implications of what would happen if brewha was telling the truth. I haven’t been taking detailed notes, because, you know, lazy. But that is my recollection. That post was not put forward by me. I was voting Brewha. If anything it would have been a case against me. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/518 "2017-01-27T16:44:13Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > If this is the case why bother to come back at all. If you are vanilla town, a modkill would have been way better to you returning. Now, IMO, we should Lynch you. > > \*\* Unvote Professor Perriwinkle \*\* > \*\* Vote Idle Thoughts \*\* > > Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk How do you get that a modkill would be better? If he’s truly vanilla town, then a modkill plus another (potential) mislynch is worse for town? (I’m not challenging you, I don’t understand and I suspect I’m missing something.) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/519 "2017-01-27T16:44:28Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > People I think seem Townie: **Sunny Daze, Biotop, Hooker Chem, sinjin, Capt. Klutz, Guiri.** I go back and forth between Town and null on **snfaulkner.** This post makes my spidey-sense buzz. Loudly. Too loudly. Reason? Defense of assorted list of players with no reason given. **Vote Thing Fish** ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/520 "2017-01-27T16:45:19Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > **EITHER LYNCH ME, MODKILL ME, OR SUB ME OUT…thanks.** > Sorry to have to do it, but I just can’t find the time to play. \*\*ATTENTION MODS: I would like to request that Idle’s own request be taken into account and that he be modkilled. If he is vanilla town as he claims, then he’d hurting an already reeling town by encouraging the lynch train against him. Since he apparently came back to the thread to ask (in green) that he be modkilled, I don’t think it’s unfair to ask that he be obliged so that we can use our lynch on somebody else. \*\* [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068.md?page=25) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068.md?page=27)