# Mafia Reunion - Day Three **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 24, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068 "2017-01-24T20:43:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/541 "2017-01-27T17:10:19Z")
WTF? You want to be modkilled, so you post in a thread so that the modkill train stops rolling, then decide that you want to fuck with Town and withdraw your modkill request because some in Town were trying to give you what you wanted? The hell? I am feeling extremely irritated by this, which means I might vote out of anger, which is generally a bad idea. I’m going to hold off on switching my vote for now so that I get less irritated and more rational, but at this moment I’m inclined to switch to voting for Idle. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/542 "2017-01-27T17:10:57Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > I shouldn’t have to accept a modkill. If you’re so sure I’m scum, THEN LYNCH me. If you think I’m town, however, and you’re still lynching me, then that’s **YOU being foolish** , not me. At the moment, we’re either lynching: A) Scum. B) A player who has decided to troll his team. Either way, it’s a good lynch for town’s health. But B doesn’t make you look very good as a player. That’s the point I’m making. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/543 "2017-01-27T17:11:15Z")
I’m not trolling anyone. I have people voting for me for–in their very own words–meta reasons. Since when is THAT a good thing to wager into a vote? You want me to start a collection of multi quotes in a post of how many people say “Meta reasons” as to why their voting for me? It’ll go on pretty long let me tell you. You should me MORE angry at people who vote for weak reasons than for those who speak up at those who vote for weak reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/544 "2017-01-27T17:11:52Z")
I haven’t been trolling anyone. Please tell me how I have done so. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/545 "2017-01-27T17:12:37Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > **Idle Thoughts** , I think EVERYONE understands the case against you at this point. We get your defense. Move on and play if that’s what you are going to do. Kinda hard to move on and play when you’re the leading lynchee. I mean, what could I possibly say that would fix things? Nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/546 "2017-01-27T17:12:59Z")
I’m quite sure that Idle is VT and being busy is a lame excuse for not getting a cool role with something fun to do. I’m irritated with him but I am not interested in wasting a lynch on him currently. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/547 "2017-01-27T17:13:22Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > How the game is played is that **everybody plays.** > > Life happens, yes, and nobody blames you for being busy. But if you’re not playing, **you should be removed without us having to spend a lynch on you.** Well, **I AM PLAYING NOW** , so what’s your reason for still wanting to lynch me? ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/548 "2017-01-27T17:13:55Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > I’m irritated with him but I am not interested in wasting a lynch on him currently. See, now these are the words of a smart man. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/549 "2017-01-27T17:15:28Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > I haven’t been trolling anyone. Please tell me how I have done so. > [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > You know what? I change my mind. I don’t want to be modkilled, just to piss you off. Help me out here, because I’m not a SDMB moderator. What is it called when somebody participates in a thread for the sole purpose of pissing off the other posters? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/550 "2017-01-27T17:16:18Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > See, now these are the words of a smart man. Be careful how you snuggle, my track record so far this game is not in your favor. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/551 "2017-01-27T17:20:04Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Help me out here, because I’m not a SDMB moderator. > > What is it called when somebody participates in a thread for the sole purpose of pissing off the other posters? I’m not trying to piss off anyone…I just think the whole “modkill him so we get another free chance at scum” is a version of cheating/unfair play. Let me guess, now you’re gonna quote to me the post where I said “now I’m going to stay in the game, just to piss you off”, right? Well, sorry, I’m invalidating that by “you deserve to be irritated due to trying to take the cheating, easy way out”. What does me being a mod have to do with anything, by the way? It’s all part of the game. ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/552 "2017-01-27T17:20:50Z")
**unvote Pleonast** **vote Idle Thoughts** If you’re town, Idle - Shame on you. Heh, my notes on Idle: > [@](#): > > Scummy?: > Idle(duh…), You haven’t contributed at all, you haven’t given us any notice that you can’t contribute, I can’t know if you’ve asked for a sub or not, but your return here suggests that you haven’t - You derail your own modkill by asking for a modkill? Seriously? And now you’re pissy because people wanna eliminate you from this game? I’m much more willing to put my trust in another players (who, you know, have contributed to the game) meta knowledge of you, than trusting you right now. Also: You’re not playing now, you’re pissing people off and defending pissing people off. There is a difference between _playing_ and _posting_. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/553 "2017-01-27T17:21:41Z")
For the record, Idle’s reactions to his “please mod kill me” response have fairly well convinced me that I was right: So, to put it clearly. The working theory behind my vote is this: Idle Thoughts is scum. He didn’t particularly want to **be** scum, but he’s been utilizing his role power, coordinating via his scum board. When it looked like he was going to be modkilled, it was suggested (by him or his comrades, doesn’t matter) that he go post something for the purpose of avoiding the lurker rule. Let’s note that Idle posted TWICE. One post was the one that was directly to the mods. The other was a general post. Just in case “posting to the mods” didn’t count as a game post as far as that rule goes. But then NAF posted. He said, “Yeah, we might go ahead and modkill him since he asked for it.” Uh oh. That wasn’t the plan. So Idle Thoughts, who was **perfectly content** to be modkilled, is suddenly **OUTRAGED BEYOND BELIEF** that anybody would want him modkilled. Where do I keep those dubious smilies? Here they are. :dubious::dubious::dubious::dubious::dubious: ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/554 "2017-01-27T17:26:43Z")
**Unvote Boozahol Squid** **Vote Idle** This vote is for the integrity of the game- this is uncool no matter which team he’s on. And I still think he’s more likely to be scum. Under the circumstances though I _do_ think a modkill is in order. (I was a town vig in a game once where someone acted like this. I was almost entirely sure he was town and he really crossed a line, but the mods wouldn’t touch him. So I killed him so the game could go on.) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/555 "2017-01-27T17:26:56Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > That’s not how the game is played, though. I only offered it up as “choose any of the available options”. But now that I see people are actually wanting to take the easy way out, I changed my mind. > > How the game is played is this: You lynch who you think is REALLY scum and if you happen to be wrong and mislynch a townsperson. OOPS! OH well! Try again next time! No free passes to remove a highly suspicious member so you can take a free turn. A suspicious player who can’t or won’t play and has asked for a modkill, lynch, or sub? So this was your party, and you’re making it so you actively hurt Town, while claiming to be Town? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/556 "2017-01-27T17:27:31Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > Well, sorry, I’m invalidating that by “you deserve to be irritated due to trying to take the cheating, easy way out”. This is pure, unadulterated crap. Let’s boil this down, shall we? Idle Thoughts: “Please modkill me.” Johnny Bravo: “Well, good. We can focus on somebody else.” Idle Thoughts: “WHAT!? You’re okay with me being modkilled!? CHEATER! THAT’S THE EASY WAY OUT!” Bullcrap, dude. I’m having lots of trouble believing that you could actually believe that nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/557 "2017-01-27T17:27:54Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > A suspicious player who can’t or won’t play and has asked for a modkill, lynch, or sub? > > So this was your party, and you’re making it so you actively hurt Town, while claiming to be Town? 40,000% this! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/558 "2017-01-27T17:28:15Z")
> [@Plumpudding](#): > > **unvote Pleonast** > > **vote Idle Thoughts** > > If you’re town, Idle - Shame on you. > > Heh, my notes on Idle: > You haven’t contributed at all, you haven’t given us any notice that you can’t contribute, I can’t know if you’ve asked for a sub or not, but your return here suggests that you haven’t - **You derail your own modkill by asking for a modkill?** Seriously? And now you’re pissy because people wanna eliminate you from this game? I’m much more willing to put my trust in another players (who, you know, have contributed to the game) meta knowledge of you, than trusting you right now. > > Also: You’re not playing now, you’re pissing people off and defending pissing people off. There is a difference between _playing_ and _posting_. Bolding mine. This is the second time I’ve seen someone say something like this. What makes anyone think I was going to be modkilled? 😕 Anyway, to the rest of your post: Yes, I am playing. I’m trying to defend myself against accusations that I’m scum, but see, the reasons being given are fairly shallow, weak, and foolish, so I don’t really know what to say other than “you’re wrong”. Yeah, thrilling and strong defense that is, I know. > [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > For the record, Idle’s reactions to his “please mod kill me” response have fairly well convinced me that I was right: > > So, to put it clearly. The working theory behind my vote is this: > > Idle Thoughts is scum. He didn’t particularly want to **be** scum, but he’s been utilizing his role power, coordinating via his scum board. When it looked like he was going to be modkilled, it was suggested (by him or his comrades, doesn’t matter) that he go post something for the purpose of avoiding the lurker rule. > > Let’s note that Idle posted TWICE. One post was the one that was directly to the mods. The other was a general post. Just in case “posting to the mods” didn’t count as a game post as far as that rule goes. > > But then NAF posted. He said, “Yeah, we might go ahead and modkill him since he asked for it.” > > Uh oh. That wasn’t the plan. So Idle Thoughts, who was **perfectly content** to be modkilled, is suddenly **OUTRAGED BEYOND BELIEF** that anybody would want him modkilled. > > Where do I keep those dubious smilies? Here they are. > > :dubious::dubious::dubious::dubious::dubious: And how are you going to feel when you turn out to be wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/559 "2017-01-27T17:29:49Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > And how are you going to feel when you turn out to be wrong? Disappointed in you. I already said so. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/560 "2017-01-27T17:31:04Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > **A suspicious player** who can’t or won’t play and has asked for a modkill, lynch, or sub? > So this was your party, and you’re making it so you actively hurt Town, while claiming to be Town? Bolding mine: And what made me a suspicious player in the first place, pray tell? > [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > This is pure, unadulterated crap. Let’s boil this down, shall we? > > Idle Thoughts: “Please modkill me.” > Johnny Bravo: “Well, good. We can focus on somebody else.” > Idle Thoughts: “WHAT!? You’re okay with me being modkilled!? CHEATER! THAT’S THE EASY WAY OUT!” > > Bullcrap, dude. I’m having lots of trouble believing that you could actually believe that nonsense. Uh, no, it went more like this: Idle Thoughts: Please take one of the three possible options that removes me from the game Johnny Bravo: WOOHOO! Yesss… Make it a modkill, mods! That way we don’t have to waste a lynch on him if he IS really town!! Idle Thoughts: That’s pretty unfair, I think I will start playing after all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068.md?page=29)