# Mafia Reunion - Day Three

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 24, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068 "2017-01-24T20:43:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/561 "2017-01-27T17:31:29Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> Disappointed in you. I already said so.

And why disappointed in me?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/562 "2017-01-27T17:32:21Z")

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I can promise you, no town-aligned player will feel the slightest amount of guilt if you flip VT after being lynched. This is entirely on your own head.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/563 "2017-01-27T17:32:24Z")

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Here’s my thing - speaking as a moderator (but speaking only for myself).

Modkilling is not supposed to be a game mechanic like the lynch or a role-block or a Night kill. In a perfect game, it would never be employed at all. I am reluctant in the extreme to allow players to attempt to manipulate the modkill or game it or incorporate it into a strategy. In my opinion, no player, regardless of alignment, should be happy when a modkill occurs; even if it ostensibly benefits your side, it’s still a sign that the game is not working correctly. What’s the fun in winning a broken game?

My inclination is to reserve modkills only for truly inactive players, players who directly violate the rules, or players who become abusive. However, I will defer to my fellow moderators on the resolution of this particular situation.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/564 "2017-01-27T17:32:39Z")

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I’ve already said why. I’m not repeating myself. Scroll up a little.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/565 "2017-01-27T17:33:52Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Well, **I AM PLAYING NOW** , so what’s your reason for still wanting to lynch me?

Modkill or lynch me, no wait, I wanna piss my own team off so you’re all being lazy by taking me up on my own freaking suggestion - how is that “playing”?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/566 "2017-01-27T17:34:01Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Uh, no, it went more like this:
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> Idle Thoughts: Please take one of the three possible options that removes me from the game  
> Johnny Bravo: WOOHOO! Yesss… Make it a modkill, mods! That way we don’t have to waste a lynch on him if he IS really town!!  
> Idle Thoughts: That’s pretty unfair, I think I will start playing after all.

It can’t be unfair to you, since you want out.

It can’t be unfair to Town, since you’re fucking Town over if you’re a Townie.

That leaves unfair to scum. I have the world’s tiniest violin. Ooh, it’s tiny!

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/567 "2017-01-27T17:34:48Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> I’ve already said why. I’m not repeating myself. Scroll up a little.

Fine, requote it then, because I still am not seeing it.

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/568 "2017-01-27T17:36:04Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Bolding mine.
> 
> This is the second time I’ve seen someone say something like this. What makes anyone think I was going to be modkilled? 😕

😕?

:dubious:

You didn’t contribute Night 2, and up to this point it didn’t seem you would contribute toDay. That’s a full Day/Night cycle and grounds for a modkill.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/569 "2017-01-27T17:37:15Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Modkill or lynch me, no wait, I wanna piss my own team off so you’re all being lazy by taking me up on my own freaking suggestion - how is that “playing”?

Only it was more “As **storyteller** just said above, modkill should not be used as a game mechanic…IE…to allow town to get out of a mislynch just so they get to try for another possible scum.”

Since I feel (rather strongly) the same thing, I have decided to stay in the game and play after all.

> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> It can’t be unfair to you, since you want out.
> 
> It can’t be unfair to Town, since you’re fucking Town over if you’re a Townie.
> 
> That leaves unfair to scum. I have the world’s tiniest violin. Ooh, it’s tiny!

I don’t want out anymore, I have changed my mind.

How am I screwing over Town if I’m Town?

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**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/570 "2017-01-27T17:37:46Z")

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> [@Plumpudding](#):
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> 😕?
> 
> :dubious:
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> You didn’t contribute Night 2, and up to this point it didn’t seem you would contribute toDay. That’s a full Day/Night cycle and grounds for a modkill.

There is also the fact that one of the mods actually said he is considering modkilling you?  
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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/571 "2017-01-27T17:37:55Z")

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Well, if no sub is available.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/572 "2017-01-27T17:38:28Z")

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> [@Plumpudding](#):
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> 😕?
> 
> :dubious:
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> You didn’t contribute Night 2, and up to this point it didn’t seem you would contribute toDay. That’s a full Day/Night cycle and grounds for a modkill.

Oh, missing a full Day and Night cycle is an instant modkill in this game? It’s in the written rules?

I didn’t know that, see.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/573 "2017-01-27T17:38:56Z")

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> [@AngeloftheNorth](#):
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> There is also the fact that one of the mods actually said he is considering modkilling you?  
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Which I also didn’t see.

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/574 "2017-01-27T17:40:30Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Since I feel (rather strongly) the same thing, I have decided to stay in the game and play after all.

So fucking start **playing** the game then, instead of doing the Mafia-equivalent of threadshitting and stepping in the shit over and over again.

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/575 "2017-01-27T17:40:48Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> MHaye is on my list of suspects. I put his name out there because he’s just the sort of candidate that players like LightFoot enjoy voting for: not a lot of posts, and most of it fluff.
> 
> .

I am not sure what I have to do with your lean list?

although that is the sort of player that generally get my attention ( when I remember they are in the game)

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/576 "2017-01-27T17:42:03Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Well, it’s impossible for me to play in this game, it’s just too large, moves too fast, there’s too much to catch up on all the time…and I’ve been far too busy.
> 
> **EITHER LYNCH ME, MODKILL ME, OR SUB ME OUT…thanks.**  
> Sorry to have to do it, but I just can’t find the time to play.

Gorramit!

\*\*unvote Prof Pepperwinkle

vote Idle Thoughts\*\*  
Who else thinks \*\*Idle \*\*just swooped in to save one of his scum buddies from getting lynched? That’s really the only reason I can think of for him to do this, as just not posting would have gotten him the result he wanted, but lost 2 for his team. Now we have to waste a lynch on him.

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**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/577 "2017-01-27T17:42:15Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> My inclination is to kill him right now, but that’s not a move I am going to make unilaterally.
> 
> Y’all are going to have to wait until Mahaloth and Story have had time to weigh in.

There you go.  
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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/578 "2017-01-27T17:44:23Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Oh, missing a full Day and Night cycle is an instant modkill in this game? It’s in the written rules?
> 
> I didn’t know that, see.

Yes, it is in the rules,  
In a game of this size, participation will be rigorously policed. Any player who goes a full Day-Night cycles without contributing to the thread will be replaced (if it is before Day Four and a replacement is available) or Mod-killed (if it is after Dawn of Day Four or if no replacement can be found). Obviously, exceptions will be made for unusual circumstances; all Mod-kills are at the absolute discretion of the Moderators. Players who are Mod-killed are considered to have lost the game no matter what else happens.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/579 "2017-01-27T17:46:08Z")

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Judging from interactions I’ve had with players in the last hour or so, here’s who I think is TOWN:

**Johnny Bravo**. I very, very STRONGLY think he is town.  
**jsgoddess**. I very strongly think she is town.  
**Paulwhoisaghost** , I very strongly think is town.  
**Raventhief** I think is more than likely town.  
**Inner Stickler** I have a small feeling is town, but not as strong as the above three.

Here’s who I think is scum:

**Prof Pepperwinkle**  
**Hal Briston**  
I am mildly suspicious of **Nanook of the North Shore**

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/580 "2017-01-27T17:47:04Z")

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> [@Plumpudding](#):
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> So fucking start **playing** the game then, instead of doing the Mafia-equivalent of threadshitting and stepping in the shit over and over again.

What do you think I’ve been trying to do for the last hour? :dubious:

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