# Mafia Reunion - Day Three **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 24, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068 "2017-01-24T20:43:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/701 "2017-01-28T01:07:23Z")
> [@sinjin](#): > > Brewha is a dead vanilla town. But thanks for playing. Aw, don’t you want to hear his leans on other dead town players? ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/702 "2017-01-28T01:12:05Z")
> [@Captain\_Klutz](#): > > “other than the fact that I requested it earlier” IS a pretty good reason to be modkilled. You lack of posting put you on the eligible-for-mod-kill list. You took yourself off this list by posting, of all things, a request to be mod killed. Yeah, but I changed my mind before action was taken…which I think should be left up to being my decision. Secondly, I wasn’t eligible for the mod kill list. I’ve posted in every Day thread so far, so…sorry to burst your bubble. > [@Captain\_Klutz](#): > > **Idle** , if you are town, WHY do you want to piss us off? How is that in any way helpful? If you truly are town, it would have been best to allow the modkill. Instead you are all but forcing us to lynch you. OR…you could just…NOT lynch me if you really think I’m town. And I’ve already said, twice now, that the “pissing off” thing was a poor choice thing to say. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/703 "2017-01-28T01:15:09Z")
> [@paulwhoisaghost](#): > > I don’t wish to address it or anything regarding Idle further. Yeah, I was wrong about you, For a moment there, I thought you were actually one of the more rational people in this game, in this Day. But nothing says unreasonable more like “Nope, my mind is closed off, even though I’m wrong about this thing”. Well, it’s okay, you’ll see you’re wrong, yet again, in due time. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/704 "2017-01-28T01:16:58Z")
I don’t like the case against either **Idle Thoughts** or **Prof. Pepperwinkle**. Everyone seems to be voting for Idle because he’s been lurking and because he’s being defensive about it. That’s actually the same reason Lakai V.1.0 was lynched on Day One. I didn’t like that case then and I don’t like it now. Lurking isn’t helpful for the town, but it doesn’t mean someone is scum. The case against **Prof. Pepperwinkle** seems to rest on him advocating for a bad strategy. You can argue that this strategy favors scum and therefore he’s also scum, but I don’t want to jump to that conclusion at the moment. It’s just as likely that he’s town who thought of a bad play. I also do not like how quickly a bandwagon formed around these two players with almost very little in way of the evidence against them. Instead of voting for these two, I’m voting for **Hockey Monkey** because I don’t like her bandwagon voting for the last three days: > [@Mafia Reunion - Day One](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-one/776577/1101): > > Erg, I’ve actually been contemplating this myself. I don’t want meta information like that to influence my gameplay, but I went through a stretch where I was either lynched or killed in the first cycle or two. It’s demoralizing and I can totally empathize with feeling “butthurt” and being snarky and defensive. It starts to feel personal and is probably a contributing factor to my long absence from the games. > > I also have been getting swayed by the current cases against **Lakai**. The **Toejam** votes I’m just not feeling as much. I still very strongly feel that **Colby’s** slip was real and he’s scum, but I am also willing to lynch another strong contender and let him play another Day. I’m going to go ahead and move my vote, just so if I can’t get back before end of day, it will be done. For the same reason I will revote, but I will not have time to pick out quotes from different people’s cases to support my move. It’s totally a MeToo vote and I will own that. I will also likely start Day 2 with a **Colby** vote, so heads up on that. > > **Unvote Colby** > > Vote Lakai\*\*\*\* > > (This is way harder to code on an iPad or phone, that with a keyboard and mouse. Jeez!) > [@Mafia Reunion - Day Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-two/777425/584): > > Certainly looks win stealing to me. It doesn’t say you win with town, so > > \*\*vote crys \*\* > > We should also Lynch **brewha** toDay. > [@Hockey\_Monkey](#): > > Gorramit! > > \*\*unvote Prof Pepperwinkle > > vote Idle Thoughts\*\* > Who else thinks \*\*Idle \*\*just swooped in to save one of his scum buddies from getting lynched? That’s really the only reason I can think of for him to do this, as just not posting would have gotten him the result he wanted, but lost 2 for his team. Now we have to waste a lynch on him. She voted for all these players after a few other players voted for them and they are all votes agreeing with the existing case against these people. In this game with two scum teams, I think it’s easy for the town to get lead astray by bandwagon voting. One or two players from one scum team can build a case against someone for a suspicious post, and then the second scum team, seeing a case being built against a town person and not one of their team, will jump in on the lynch. Like two small waives building into a tidal wave against a town person. That’s my working theory. And **Hockey Monkey** has too many bandwagon votes so that’s why I will vote Hockey Monkey. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/705 "2017-01-28T01:20:06Z")
Hoo boy, what happened while I was asleep? A bunch of bullshittery, evidently. It’s all been hashed and rehashed to death already. So I’ll keep it brief. Idle thoughts didn’t read the goddammit rules of his own game then got all upset over all this talk of mod killings that he’s been forced to play out of spite, it seems. I know I said I’d vote for him if he came back, based on others’ meta of him. And his obnoxious fits seemed to warrent votes as well. However, a few times in between his abrasive-not-abrasive jabberings, he did give some leans. Is his obnoxious style meant to get rises out of ppl just so he can judge their scumnitude? I think maybe so. I’m gonna hold off voting him for now. I have to go husbanding for a spell now, but I’ll return later tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/706 "2017-01-28T01:43:36Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > I would rather lynch him as town than modkill him as town because the lynch will have a voting record. The modkill is a mechanic. > > I’m not going to argue with you over this. I’m town and I actually think you are too from his argument, so it’s just adding to the noise. > > I see your point in the paragraph beginning with Further. I see why you think that. However, I’m not scum so I wasn’t thinking that way. > > And now I just want him dead because I think he’s ruining the game. > > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Idle is doing idle and not ruining the game. Non participation is having a huge effect on this game. Sent from my XT1526 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Crys75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@Crys75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crys75)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/707 "2017-01-28T02:05:40Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Guiri mentioned the possibility of LUTHA being Wolves yesterday. I think it quite possible. That would be news to me Sent from my XT1526 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/708 "2017-01-28T02:21:42Z")
Quick thoughts from my phone. Why does shit go down when I’m on my phone? I feel like this is Townie Prof P. with bad ideas. It won’t be the first time. (Said by somebody who has bad townie ideas, so no offense intended.) Idle, get your head in the game and find some scum. Your arguments aren’t going to convince those who have made up their mind, but leaning town on brewha doesn’t help you case with me. \*\*unvote all \*\* Toejam’s claim stinks like toe jam. He’s still very much on my radar, but there’s enough doubt to reevaluate. Can somebody do me a favor and recap the Thingfish/Pleonast feud? I may be able to do it tomorrow, but I can’t guarantee the time is there. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/709 "2017-01-28T02:22:31Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Hoo boy, what happened while I was asleep? A bunch of bullshittery, evidently. It’s all been hashed and rehashed to death already. So I’ll keep it brief. > > Idle thoughts didn’t read the goddammit rules of his own game then got all upset over all this talk of mod killings that he’s been forced to play out of spite, it seems. > > I know I said I’d vote for him if he came back, based on others’ meta of him. And his obnoxious fits seemed to warrent votes as well. However, a few times in between his abrasive-not-abrasive jabberings, he did give some leans. Is his obnoxious style meant to get rises out of ppl just so he can judge their scumnitude? I think maybe so. > > I’m gonna hold off voting him for now. > > I have to go husbanding for a spell now, but I’ll return later tonight. One of his “leans” is that Brewha is town. Are you actually reading the thread? ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/710 "2017-01-28T02:24:56Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Idle thoughts didn’t read the goddammit rules of his own game then got all upset over all this talk of mod killings that he’s been forced to play out of spite, it seems. > > I know I said I’d vote for him if he came back, based on others’ meta of him. And his obnoxious fits seemed to warrent votes as well. However, a few times in between his abrasive-not-abrasive jabberings, he did give some leans. Is his obnoxious style meant to get rises out of ppl just so he can judge their scumnitude? I think maybe so. Damnit. Sigh… @Idle, is this what you are doing? Because if this is the start of you actually playing and we can expect the current level of attention you are paying to the game, then I’m willing to hold off on your Lynch. As directly as possible please address the following issues: 1. Toejam’s claim 2. LUTHA 3. People voting for claimed 3rd parties 4. Professor P 5. Anyone you think I should looking at and why. \*\* Unvote Idle Thoughts \*\* You could have made this a lot easier on everyone, but if what SNF says above is the truth, then you are playing… just not in a way that I like or respect. From my perspective all you did was pissed off a bunch of town. But now I am seeing that was the point. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/711 "2017-01-28T02:30:13Z")
> [@DiggitCamara](#): > > Ideally? I would like for one of them to die, whether by lynch or UBatmanning or whatever, just to see what the mods reveal about them. An investigation wouldn’t do much help, as far as I can tell, since the result would simply be “Third Party” (best case scenario). > > Now that I think about it… What if wolves or scum had decided to “declare” themselves as third party? It would be risky, but might deter the opposing faction from using their actions against them. Could that work? on D2? ballsy since they had lost 0 none players? ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/712 "2017-01-28T02:33:12Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Ugggggg.Is anybody having fun here? Scum are certainly having fun. But so am I. And hey, Town isn’t doing as horribly bad as we did in Super Smash Brothers we’re we lost the game and only mislynched twice. (Technically we lost on the third mislynch, but due to a mandatory Borda vote, scum basically controlled the lynch on that one.) > [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](#): > > Man, it’s a good thing you gave that to us before we could lyn…oh… > [@raventhief](#): > > Aw, don’t you want to hear his leans on other dead town players? 😃 See. That shit was funny! > [@DiggitCamara](#): > > I must have some kind of color dislexia. Yeah, that’s the second time you’ve done that this game. (At least, I think it was you. I can’t be arsed to go check for certain.) ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/713 "2017-01-28T02:35:29Z")
> [@sinjin](#): > > One of his “leans” is that Brewha is town. Are you actually reading the thread? It is obvious he isnt caught up. He never read the part about mod kills. I imagine that he’s doing a super skim job. Of course he could have just spewed bullshit to sound like he is trying. I still very well might vote for him. But we have many hours left and I’m about to get yelled at for not husbanding. ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/714 "2017-01-28T02:41:29Z")
I just want to go on record as saying I have strong town leanings on **Normal Phase** and **Chronos** … 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/715 "2017-01-28T02:42:34Z")
I said that if\*\* Idle \*\* came back I would switch my vote, Not sure what the vote count is but at this point I don’t care. I am not going to make myself a liar \*\* Unvote Prof\*\*, **Vote Idle** he bought and paid for a lynch ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/716 "2017-01-28T02:48:25Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Guiri mentioned the possibility of LUTHA being Wolves yesterday. I think it quite possible. You guys sound like a couple of nut jobs to me. This whole LUTHA are wolves thing doesn’t make sense. Here is why. 1. Wolves wouldn’t want to pose as 3P it puts them under the spotlight. 2.3P count toward the scum win condition so the mafia have three reasons to kill them. First because they are one less person between them and victory. Second because they are not likely to be under protection. And third because they could have an exclusive wincon. It would put them at risk from both sides. Town and mafia would both want their reveal. IIRC the day kill on D2 was a Mason right? So maybe the mafia found a breadcrumb and figured they had bigger fish to fry than a 3P. Besides, wolves as LUTHA would be an incredibly dangerous gambit for someone who’s wincon depends on them staying ahead of the mafia in population. It basically says “Hey mafia, I could be a hostile 3P, a wolf, or an honest nonhostile 3P, either way you benefit from killing me, I’m not likely to be protected, come get me.” Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/717 "2017-01-28T02:49:05Z")
, I asked **Idle** a viable question in the post where all he responded to was my use of the word hostile- He had the chance then to respond. I am not willing to continue trying to be reasonable with the player. ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/718 "2017-01-28T02:52:05Z")
> [@DiggitCamara](#): > > And the switch she has is for the Bodyguard. So, if we assume she is a Wolf, she could hope for some townie protection during the Night, which actually might have happened due to our Wizard’s haste and perhaps even some collateral damage to said protective role via the Hitman. And even if the Consiglere dispatched someone to see if Crys was visited during the Night, that might actually result in a positive result for the Wolves (death of a protective role by the Mafia). > > Food for thought, at least. See… and this doesn’t make sense to me either… who is this wolf trying to get protection from? Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/719 "2017-01-28T02:53:47Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > It is obvious he isnt caught up. He never read the part about mod kills. I imagine that he’s doing a super skim job. Of course he could have just spewed bullshit to sound like he is trying. I still very well might vote for him. But we have many hours left and I’m about to get yelled at for not husbanding. And yet you gave a buy because he posted a couple of leans one of which was totally irrelevant. You know who don’t care which townie/3P dies (except for SKs)? Scum don’t care. They especially don’t care about VT. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/720 "2017-01-28T02:54:11Z")
> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#): > > I just want to go on record as saying I have strong town leanings on **Normal Phase** and **Chronos** … 🆒 But…but…what about DanteG and Sario? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068.md?page=35) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068.md?page=37)