# Mafia Reunion - Day Three **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 24, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068 "2017-01-24T20:43:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/881 "2017-01-29T16:08:45Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > we’re going to adopt a cat today. Eeeek!😃 Pix plz! ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/882 "2017-01-29T16:09:52Z")
> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#): > > . But who’s actually voting him for being scummy? Nobody. [In post 833](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19959658&postcount=833), I gave a very good reason for feeling doubly frustrated: 1. A collection of quotes showing that pretty much everyone, at the time, was voting for me _ **not for actual things that have happened in THIS game** _, but for meta reasons…and 2. Having the very thing happen to show why meta game reasons are bad…because they can be wrong. But nobody wants to listen or cares to listen. That’s extremely, extremely, EXTREMELY frustrating. And so yeah, I got defensive at it. And frustrated. And I melted down a bit. And tried to defend myself any way I could…even though it’s pretty much DAMN NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO DEFEND THINGS WHEN PEOPLE ARE VOTING FOR ME FOR THINGS I DIDN’T EVEN DO IN THIS GAME… …OH…OTHER than, when I got frustrated at it, with good reason, voting for me for being hostile and annoying. And then I get called names…and then I get told I’m anti town…and then Well fuck it. I’m done. I’m so frustrated now that I’m frustrated-out. You all win. This is my last game ever. I really tried to make up for missing most of the last two Days. I thought post 833 actually was well written and made good points. It was a full hearted attempt at showing that I AM trying to be serious and contribute and not be “annoying” and defend as well as I possibly could against “meta reasons”, but it’s obvious people are still gonna vote for me anyway, if only to spite me. Even **NAF** , in my last PM to him telling him how frustrated I’m getting with this game, said he thought Town was acting foolish and bad. Town, you deserve to lose. GO SCUM! [Now modkill me, please.](https://scontent.fphx1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/16423042_10211956599214063_878770216445864920_o.jpg?oh=c24c8c2d023def4aebf650386fd571d4&oe=590A82BE) This game has seriously depressed me. This is my last post in it. AND EDITING NOW, JUST BECAUSE I CAN: I GOT BUSY, PEOPLE. I’m sorry. ☹ It didn’t mean I was scum. Seriously? Meta reasoning “He must be scum because he hates playing as scum so he must have become inactive for being it?”…LAMEST REASONS EVER. Bye. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/883 "2017-01-29T16:16:49Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > I guess I’d better put a vote in before I got too juiced to slueth. > > Since Idle hasn’t come back, I have to assume his appearance yesterday was just an attempt to ward off a mod kill and spew bullshit. > > **Vote Idle Thoughts** > > I _might_ be around for EoD shenaniganery, but no promises. I might have missed it in another post - but what is the reason for you vote here? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/884 "2017-01-29T16:23:22Z")
> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#): > > This post rubs in all the wrong places. It’s just awful. Seriously bad. > > You’re voting someone for flaking on the rules, even though you are switching your vote off of someone you find scummy? The guy already said he had strong town leanings on a Dead and confirmed Brewha! Idle’s clearly being a flake here. No scum is going to not know the number of scum in the game if their paying attention. No townie won’t know either. This isn’t a tell, it’s Idle being dumb. And it’s an extremely awful reason to switch your vote from someone you find scummy. **Seriously, if prof is scum, you’re probably on his team.** I can’t vote for everyone I find scummy, sadly. I stayed away from Idle for not participating. I did not find that alignment indicative. But when he said the number of scum was probably between 5-7, he immediately looked scummy to me. I could easily imagine him knowing that there were 7 members on his scum team, but trying to downplay it. How did he pull those numbers out of the air? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/885 "2017-01-29T16:27:27Z")
This is seriously frustrating to me, too. You throw a tantrum because town is being “foolish and bad.” several tantrums in fact. You didn’t read the rules, you didn’t read the roles, you didn’t even read your own win condition in your role pm. We are all supposed to learn your meta, but not too much, because meta is a good reason to not vote you , but not a good reason to vote you. This both happens most every game and almost never. You get hostile enough to affect the fun of other players, but that’s not really hostile at all for you. So your meltdown means less fun for everyone, including you. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/886 "2017-01-29T16:30:00Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > OK. This is enough to convince me of the possibility that Idle is scum. > > \*\*unvote: ProfP > vote: Idle \*\* > > ProfP, you’re not off the hook with me, though. I respect Angel’s intuition, but I think she’s wrong about you. And her continuing scum-wouldn’t-do-that arguments might convince me about some, but we’ve seen Angel do everything as scum. What’s your opinion of her this game? One never knows with Angel. I’m leaning Town on her and on you and Biotop and SNF and Paul and LightFoot. I never expect to be off the hook from you. ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/887 "2017-01-29T16:31:04Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > **@HookerChemical** - can you remind me who you were voting before post 814 where you unvote all and votes Pleonast? I was on ToeJam. I still don’t buy his claim, but I think it’s much more likely to resolve itself than Pleonast. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/888 "2017-01-29T16:32:15Z")
> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#): > > You really haven’t been paying attention have you? > > There are 4 lights!..um…I mean 14 scum! > > It’s in the PMs all Town received. It’s also in the roles document if you count them. > > Anyway… > > **unvote boozy** > > **vote prof pepperwinkle** > > Boozy train isn’t going anywhere. Idle’s behavior isn’t scummy. It’s flaky; it’s annoying; it’s extremely anti-town (though, his recent posts show he actually wants to play instead of being a pissy bitch like his first posts toDay were). But who’s actually voting him for being scummy? > > I said I can’t find much fault in those who want him lynched due to his behavior, but it’s still lazy play (lazy does not equate to scummy, though scum will frequently be more apt to aim for lazy plays because they already have perfect knowledge of who isn’t on their team). He’s now given indication he wants to play and he seems to be trying to do just that. (Though, really, if he’s still alive toNight he might want to read his role closer and maybe get in his head who’s dead.) > > The cases against **prof** actually show scum behavior. I know some of you (partcularly **Angel** think he’s overwhelmed town having played with him before. But I’ve never played with him before. I’ve kibitzed a couple games he’s been in and don’t remember much even from that. (Though, I always get him and plumpudding confused because of their alliterative names.) It would’ve been even more fun in Precambrianmollusc had stayed in the game. Sorry for the scum behavior; I understand the vote. But I am Town. ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/889 "2017-01-29T16:33:24Z")
**unvote Idle Throughts** Because of pending modkill. I still think your behavior toDay has been extremely shitty. * * * This is getting so silly… Not sure if I wanna continue. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/890 "2017-01-29T16:35:42Z")
> [@Koldanar](#): > > I’ll go through the list as well - we have enough players, this should help organize my thoughts a little, as I’m reading. > [snipped] > > 36.Pleonast - scum lean > > 51.Thing Fish - neutral What do you think of the entire **Pleo/Thing Fish** -encounter regarding the Scum-thread info/PIS? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/891 "2017-01-29T16:39:16Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Ugh, it’s probably because Khameleon made me drink all the whiskey, but, [I’m going to allow this.](https://youtu.be/R8sFE8_usN0) > \*\* > unvote Idle Thoughts \*\* > \*\* > Vote boozy squid\*\* > > However, if I happen to wake up before EoD and see prof in trouble, I will switch back to idle. I don’t like that last line at all. When sober please come back and explain. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/892 "2017-01-29T16:48:08Z")
Right now, if my numbers are correct: 18 votes on Idle 12 votes on loveable ol’ me. Less than 200 minutes to go. I see Idle’s starting off the shenanigans by asking for a very late in the Day ModKill. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/893 "2017-01-29T16:49:19Z")
I didn’t click first time, suspecting a youtube video or similar, but Idle actually posted a screenshot of a vanilla town role PM. I don’t think it breaks any rules, or would be cause for a modkill. It sucks he feels this way though. ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/894 "2017-01-29T16:49:33Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > I doubt it’s any fewer than five. :dubious::dubious::dubious::smack::smack::smack: ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/895 "2017-01-29T16:51:17Z")
I don’t really know how to play when someone is being so deliberately and purposefully distracting. It’s like watching a play and suddenly someone whips out a knife and everything get chaotic and too real and you suddenly don’t know if it’s part of the plot or OMIGOD HE ACTUALLY HAS A KNIFE. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/896 "2017-01-29T16:58:04Z")
> [@Plumpudding](#): > > unvote Idle Throughts > Because of pending modkill. I doubt that Idle gets modkilled, so I wouldn’t change your vote based on that. It would be too disruptive with 3 hours left in the day. ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/897 "2017-01-29T16:59:08Z")
**Is posting a screenshot of your pm against the rules and grounds for a modkill?** **vote Idle Thoughts** ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/898 "2017-01-29T17:03:15Z")
> [@Plumpudding](#): > > **Is posting a screenshot of your pm against the rules and grounds for a modkill?** > > **vote Idle Thoughts** [quote=“storyteller0910, post:2, topic:776315”] \*\*Posting Rules \*\*[ol] [li]There are no post restrictions. As long as you are alive, you may post whatever you like, wherever you like, whenever you like. You may quote your role PM, and any PM sent to you by the moderators. You may discuss strategy by Day or by Night. If you have access to outside boards, you may post to them on any subject at any time. If someone claims a post restriction of any kind, they are lying; lynch them.[/li][li]PLEASE NOTE: You are also permitted to edit your posts. Other players may frown upon a choice to do so, but the Moderators will not intervene in any case of post editing.[/li][li]No out-of-game communication related to the game is permitted among living players (that is, no PMing or e-mailing or using Facebook or complex codes based on banging together coconuts).[/ol][/li][/QUOTE] Relevant section from rules. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/899 "2017-01-29T17:07:47Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > I didn’t click first time, suspecting a youtube video or similar, but Idle actually posted a screenshot of a vanilla town role PM. I don’t think it breaks any rules, or would be cause for a modkill. It sucks he feels this way though. I never even thought about clicking thru. If it’s not against the rules, it should be. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/900 "2017-01-29T17:09:43Z")
> [@Plumpudding](#): > > Is posting a screenshot of your pm against the rules and grounds for a modkill? Sorry, missed that. That is definitely against the spirit of the game, if not the rules. Still I don’t think we have time to fairly choose an alternate contender, but I’ll leave it to the mods to advise before taking any action. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068.md?page=44) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068.md?page=46)