# Mafia Reunion - Day Three

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 24, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068 "2017-01-24T20:43:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/981 "2017-01-29T23:12:39Z")

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> [@AngeloftheNorth](#):
>
> I guess we can trust now that Pleo and ToeJam probably aren’t wolves?  
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Maybe, but it doesn’t mean they aren’t mafia. I still think Pleo’s case on Thing Fish is bizarre nonsense. I still don’t believe ToeJam’s claim because his claim that he self-protected N1 is either a lie or it is horrible town play.

> [@bufftabby](#):
>
> Fair trade.  
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Nope. We made out like bandits on that one.

> [@paulwhoisaghost](#):
>
> I just finished watching this series for the first time. Now I’m working on DS9… it’s not as good.  
> Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

Stick with it. Things get better after a couple mediocre seasons. Some of the best Star Trek episodes are DS9.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/982 "2017-01-29T23:19:21Z")

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> [@GuiriEnEspana](#):
>
> Woot, farewell Idle, jsgoddess and Thing Fish!
> 
> 2 day kills?
> 
> Color coded vote counts with unvotes.
> 
> jsgoddess voted Lakai, ToeJam, and Prof. P, with unvotes on Angel, Crys and Pleo. Was voted by Chronos and Hoopy.  
> Thing Fish voted Pleo, ToeJam and Khameleon with unvote on Prof.P. Was voted by Chronos (he was onto something!), Pleo twice, and Diggit.
> 
> **Day 1** [spoiler]\*\***Lakai(17):** InnerSticker[257],[del] SNF[295-1205][/del], RedSkeez[319], PlumPudding[647], Lightfoot[883], Koldanar[900], [del]Guiri[977-1182][/del], HoopyFrood[1031], Angel[1078], Meeko[1082], HockeyMonkey[1102], Drain[1108], RavenThief[1109], JSGoddess[1129], MHaye[1176], Nesta[1187], BuffTabby[1194], Cookies[1206], Nanook[1208]
> 
> **ToeJam(15):** CaptKlutz[57-347,796], Sunny[113], Normal[147-322,1011], Hooker[184], Sinjin[200], Sachertorte[534], Lakai[775-1006,1209], ProfP[1057], BillMc[1152], Septimus[1155], Biotop[1178], Guiri[1182], Ender[1195], Chronos[1197], SNF[1205]
> 
> **Colby(6):** Texcat[91],[del] Guiri[101-977], Septimus[106-231,993-1034], Meeko[130-1082][/del], ToeJam[132], [del]HockeyMonkey[152-1101][/del], [del]Lakai[154-775][/del], Suburban[162-541,1026], [del]Diggit[249-264][/del], Hawkeye[350], [del]Nanook[455-1208][/del], Brewha[683], Pleonast[841]
> 
> \*\*Angel(3): \*\*[del]SNF[37-157][/del], Zeriel[413], TotalLost[493], [del]JSGoddess[503-716][/del], BoozySquid[546],[del] Septimus[981-993][/del],[del] Lakai[1006-1209][/del]
> 
> **Pleonast(1):** [del]Septimus[85-106][/del], ThingFish[794],[del] Normal[824-1011][/del], [del]Nesta[1187-1187][/del]  
> Normal Phase(1):\*\* [del]Texcat[29-91][/del], Johnny Bravo[36], [del]Pleonast[241-511][/del]  
> **Septimus(1):** Ender[243], [del]TotalLost[273-493], Normal[322-714], Colby[335-946], CaptKlutz[347-796], HoopyFrood[480-736], Pleonast[511-841][/del]  
> \*\*Texcat(1): \*\*Scathach[758]  
> **Brewha(1):** Colby[946]
> 
> **JohnnyBravo(0):** [del]Meeko[41-130], BuffTabby[259-1094], Septimus[488-659][/del]  
> **Meeko(0):** [del]Drain[94-888][/del]  
> **Drain(0):** [del]Angel[97-542][/del]  
> **BoozySquid(0):**[del] Normal[102-147], SNF[157-295], Angel[542-1078], Biotop[709-957][/del]  
> **JSGoddess(0):** [del]Chronos[183-917][/del]  
> **Hawkeye(0):** [del]BoozySquid[188-540][/del]  
> \*\*Capt Klutz(0): \*\*[del]HoopyFrood[195-480], Drain[889-1108][/del]  
> \*\*SNF(0): \*\*Diggit[264]  
> **Biotop(0):** [del]PlumPudding[412-470][/del]  
> **Prof(0)P:** [del]PlumPudding[472-647], Septimus[659-981][/del]  
> **Ender(0):** [del]ProfP[528-545][/del]  
> **PlumPudding(0):** [del]Suburban[541-1026][/del]  
> **Koldanar(0):**[del] ProfP[545-908][/del]  
> **TotalLost(0):**[del] RavenThief[679-912], JSGoddess[716-1129][/del]  
> **Scathach(0):** [del]HoopyFrood[798-1031][/del]  
> **ThingFish(0):** [del]Chronos[917-1197][/del]  
> **Chronos(0):** [del]Biotop[957-1178][/del][/spoiler]  
> **Day 2** [spoiler] **brewha** (16): [del]bufftabby(373-417)[/del], Chronos (538), [del]Biotop (543-909)[/del], BoozaholSquid (556), Cometothe…Cookies (575), [del]sachertorte (576-913)[/del], [del]HookerChemical (621-688)[/del], bufftabby (622), [color=blue]DrainBead(638), [del]raventhief (646-1002)[/del], paulwhoisaghost (703), Khameleon (716), Lakai (720), [del]HookerChemical (722-988)[/del], Meeko (726), ToeJam (730), Crys75(743), JohnnyBravo(767), Prof. Pepperwinkle(794), BillMc(947), TotalLost (957), InnerStickler(1033)
> 
> **ToeJam** (14): [del]raventhief (31-597)[/del], IdleThoughts(32), [del]SunnyDaze (34-318)[/del], Biotop (909), sachertorte (913), CaptainKlutz (950), sinjin(955), HookerChemical (988), guiri(995), brewha(998), ThingFish(1000), raventhief(1002), Sunny Daze (1023), MHaye(1036), jsgoddess(1038), nesta(1039)
> 
> **Crys75** (8): [del]Guiri (262-812)[/del], [del]SunnyDaze (568-1023)[/del], HockeyMonkey (584), DiggitCamara (588), AngeloftheNorth (595), Texcat (639), [del]CaptainKlutz (640-950)[/del], snfaulkner (641); [del]jsgodess(795-976)[/del], Hawkeyeop(803), Zeriel(860), Scathach (959)
> 
> **Texcat** (1): Plumpudding (68)  
> **Thing Fish** (1): Pleonast (121)  
> **Chronos** (1): Nanook (151)  
> **HockeyMonkey** (1): Hoopy Frood (663)  
> **snfaulkner** (1): [del]DiggitCamara (250-588)[/del], [del]Texcat (633-639)[/del], [del]Guiri (812-995)[/del], koldanar(819)  
> **Pleonast** (1): Lightfoot (288), [del]HookerChemical (295-621)[/del], [del]ThingFish(297-1000)[/del], [del]jsgoddess(976-1038)[/del]
> 
> **Plumpudding** (0): [del]SunnyDaze (318-508)[/del]  
> **Angelofthenorth** (0): [del]Zeriel (60-529)[/del], [del]BoozaholSquid, P.I. (80-556)[/del]  
> **Idle Thoughts** (0): [del]Angelofthenorth (44-595)[/del]  
> **BillMc** (0): [del]DrainBead(132-638)[/del], [del]Texcat (179-633)[/del]  
> **jsgoddess** (0): [del]HoopyFrood (294-663)[/del]  
> **DiggitCamara** (0): [del]snfaulkner (332-641)[/del], [del]Paulwhoisaghost (386-699)[/del]  
> **CaptainKlutz** (0): [del]DrainBead(45-132)[/del], [del]SunnyDaze (567-568)[/del], [del]Crys75 (583-743)[/del]  
> **Meeko** (0): [del]JohnnyBravo (169-767)[/del]  
> **Sario** (0): [del]Prof. Pepperwinkle (45-794)[/del], [del]Cometothe…Cookies (523-575)[/del]  
> **Paulwhoisaghost** (0): [del]Zeriel (529-860)[/del]  
> **sachertorte** (0): [del]Meeko (201-726)[/del], [del]brewha(806-998)[/del]
> 
> **Non-voters** (5): EnderW24, HalBriston, Precambrianmollusc, RedSkeezix, Sario[/spoiler]
> 
> **Day 3** [spoiler] **IdleThoughts** (17): SunnyDaze(182), raventhief(207), [del]ToeJam(259-408)[/del], [del]HalBriston(300-923)[/del], [del]Prof.Pepperwinkle(398-692)[/del], [del]Paulwhoisaghost(515-710)[/del], Nanook(528), Biotop(533), JohnnyBravo(536), [del]Plumpudding(552-889)[/del], [del]Angelofthenorth(554-778)[/del], HockeyMonkey(576), Khameleon(593), sinjin(632), CaptainKlutz(699), Lightfoot(715), nesta(731), Hawkeyeop(758), BillMC(765), Zeriel(807), [del]snfaulkner(821-836)[/del], Angelofthenorth(873), [del]TexCat(874-908)[/del], Plumpudding(897), Cookies(917)
> 
> **Prof. Pepperwinkle** (14): [del]TexCat(278-874)[/del], jsgoddess(332), [del]Paulwhoisaghost(343-515)[/del], [del]Pleonast(345-602)[/del], InnerStickler(347), [del]Lightfoot(354-715)[/del], [del]HockeyMonkey(367-576)[/del], ToeJam(408), Bufftabby(420), [del]Biotop(458-532)[/del], Enderw24(588), IdleThoughts(590), Pleonast(602), Safhertorte(656), MHaye(674), Cygnus42(818), TotalLost(837), HoopyFrood(877), [del]ThingFish(901-903)[/del], TexCat(908), HalBriston(923)
> 
> **Boozahol Squid** (2): [del]HoopyFrood(286-877)[/del], [del]Angelofthenorth(303-554[/del]), [del]CaptainKlutz(487-699)[/del], Guiri(772), [del]Angelofthenorth(778-873)[/del], snfaulkner(83)
> 
> **Khameleon** (2): Meeko(319), [del]ThingFish(632-901)[/del], ThingFish(903)
> 
> **Enderw24** (1): [del]Nanook(28-528)[/del], Crys75(34)  
> **Crys75** (1): BoozaholSquid(499)  
> **Sachertorte** (1): [del]Johnny Bravo(14-536)[/del], [del]Prof. Pepperwinkle(339-398)[/del], Prof.Pepperwinkle(692)  
> **ThingFish** (1): [del]Pleonast(141-345)[/del], Diggitcamara(691)  
> **HockeyMonkey** (1): Lakai(704)  
> **Diggitcamara** (1): [del]Guiri(740-772)[/del], Paulwhoisaghost(796)  
> **Pleonast** (1): [del]Paulwhoisaghost(116-158)[/del], [del]Plumpudding(222-552)[/del], HookerChemical(814)
> 
> **ToeJam** (0): [del]HookerChemical(9-708)[/del], [del]snfaulkner(17-299)[/del], [del]BillMC(23-673)[/del], [del]Sinjin(53-632)[/del], [del]Biotop(112-296)[/del], [del]CaptainKlutz(118-298)[/del], [del]Angelofthenorth(134-303)[/del]
> 
> **Non-voters** (2): Koldanar, Scathach[/spoiler]

Thanks for these!

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/983 "2017-01-29T23:22:28Z")

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It’s heartening to see a color other than blue splashed across the screen. I clearly need to rethink some, because I felt Thing Fish was towny, and didnt have much read on jsgoddess.

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/984 "2017-01-29T23:22:34Z")

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> [@DiggitCamara](#):
>
> Kind of feel vindicated by this post.

If that post is taken at face value, it still only points to you not being a wolf.

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/985 "2017-01-29T23:25:28Z")

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> [@paulwhoisaghost](#):
>
> Say what? This looks like you found something, but I can’t parse it.
> 
> Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

and I am not sure what you were trying to accomplish with this post. (with the second part)

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/986 "2017-01-29T23:28:59Z")

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> [@HookerChemical](#):
>
> Maybe, but it doesn’t mean they aren’t mafia. I still think Pleo’s case on Thing Fish is bizarre nonsense. I still don’t believe ToeJam’s claim because his claim that he self-protected N1 is either a lie or it is horrible town play.
> 
> .

how? know nothing D/N1 why not self protect?

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/987 "2017-01-29T23:29:06Z")

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> [@AngeloftheNorth](#):
>
> I think you may be right. I also think that maybe it makes it more likely that Pleo _is_ Mafia? I never really understood what he was going on about with Thing Fish, but given that he was right, perhaps it was a form of PIS?  
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

That’s what I was thinking at the time of their tousle… that they were both scum but from different factions. I’m still suspicious of Pleo, I just think he’s mafia.

Anyone still want to argue with me that scum aren’t trying to kill each other? Does anyone think Thingfish was killed for posting alot and that his killer thought he was Town?

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/988 "2017-01-29T23:33:23Z")

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> [@HookerChemical](#):
>
> Maybe, but it doesn’t mean they aren’t mafia. I still think Pleo’s case on Thing Fish is bizarre nonsense. ~~
> 
> .

oops meant to address this too- Pleo’s case was/is full of holes ( which I tried to point out to him) so yes he could still be Mafia

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/989 "2017-01-29T23:38:31Z")

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> [@paulwhoisaghost](#):
>
> That’s what I was thinking at the time of their tousle… that they were both scum but from different factions. I’m still suspicious of Pleo, I just think he’s mafia.
> 
> Anyone still want to argue with me that scum aren’t trying to kill each other? Does anyone think Thingfish was killed for posting alot and that his killer thought he was Town?

yes . Scum are likely focusing on Town for their wincon. Hitting a Scum on the other side is a bonus I think  
so going forward Mafia will be even less concerned about Wolves since they have the numbers now.  
Wolves, who knows.

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/990 "2017-01-29T23:41:48Z")

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> [@Lakai](#):
>
> Here is a list of other people who were at one point suspicious of Pleo on Day Three when it wasn’t that popular:
> 
> Nesta says Pleo needs a good looking at (103)  
> Paulwhoisaghost voted for Pleo (116)  
> Plumpudding votes Pleo (222)  
> Snaulkner says Pleo is a scum lean (276)  
> Koldanar has Pleo as scum lean on his list (349)  
> Hockey Monkey has Pleo leaning scum on her list (367)  
> HookerChemical votes Pleo (814)  
> Snfaulkner is ok with Pleo murder (822)
> 
> Jsgoddess also has posts casting suspicion on Pleo, which makes me think Thing Fish’s suspicion on Pleo was not a lone wolf situation. It might have been a coordinated strategy to take him down for some reason. This means that other wolves would have also tried to cast suspicion on Pleo. It’s unlikely that Thing Fish and Jsgoddess were the only wolves to go after Pleo. Following this logic I’ll probably be voting for someone off this list on Day Four.

You’ve got 8 names here and 5 possible wolves remaining… so 5/8 being wolves would require that all wolves were involved. You think they ALL grouped together and made things super easy for you? Why do you assume you are going to find wolves, but don’t mention mafia? It seems odd to not comment on the mafia, it comes across as “of course there is gonna be wolves and town on Pleo, and no mafia…” which can only really be deduced if you know Pleo is mafia. But back to your suggestion that you are going hunting in that pool of 8… If even 1 wolf had decided to separate from the group and leave Pleo alone, it would mean that half of your list consists of non-wolves. I don’t like those odds considering I’m on the list.

I think you’d be better off finding ways to cross reference TF and Jsgoddess.

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/991 "2017-01-29T23:47:38Z")

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> [@Total\_Lost](#):
>
> I think it’s fair to ask questions in a mafia-game.
> 
> Having a hard time keeping up with the game, I find it helpful to ask people when I am uncertain what they said or where it was said.
> 
> I don’t think I have failed to take a stance. I find things weird and lots in this game rather bizarre but have tried to be vocal in my points of views.
> 
> If you think I have failed - feel free to ask in return.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I did… in the post you quoted. I asked you where you stood on DiggitCamara. You seemed like you wanted me to back up my vote, but you didn’t give your opinion on Diggit, or your opinion on me voting Diggit. You didn’t even respond to my response with an opinion on my suspicions… I don’t mind being asked questions or even doing the legwork to quote my own posts on issues for you… but if you are going to engage me, I’m gonna want to know where you stand on the same topic.

So… what are your thoughts on Diggit?

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/992 "2017-01-29T23:57:01Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
>
> and I am not sure what you were trying to accomplish with this post. (with the second part)

It’s a side effect of playing on my phone with Tapatalk. To multi quote in Tapatalk you tap on the posts you want to quote then pick one and hit the quote button, it pulls all “selected” posts into one reply. As I am reading and scrolling down I sometimes tap on a post and select it without meaning to do so. Total’s quote was not desired. My apologies.

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/993 "2017-01-29T23:59:21Z")

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> [@paulwhoisaghost](#):
>
> You’ve got 8 names here and 5 possible wolves remaining… so 5/8 being wolves would require that all wolves were involved. You think they ALL grouped together and made things super easy for you? Why do you assume you are going to find wolves, but don’t mention mafia? It seems odd to not comment on the mafia, it comes across as “of course there is gonna be wolves and town on Pleo, and no mafia…” which can only really be deduced if you know Pleo is mafia. But back to your suggestion that you are going hunting in that pool of 8… If even 1 wolf had decided to separate from the group and leave Pleo alone, it would mean that half of your list consists of non-wolves. I don’t like those odds considering I’m on the list.
> 
> I think you’d be better off finding ways to cross reference TF and Jsgoddess.
> 
> Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

I don’t mention mafia because my theory is that wolves are casting suspicion on Pleo because we saw two dead wolves do it and we know wolves have a chance to coordinate strategy. I can’t make any inferences about mafia and their strategy yet until we get a dead wise guy. And I never said that no mafia voted for Pleo.

I just think there is another wolf out there also casting suspicion on Pleo and my list above narrows the suspects. Is it 100% fool proof? No, but nothing in this game is 100% fool proof. We just have to try and push the odds in our favor a little bit.

And what do you mean by cross referencing TF and Jsgoddess?

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**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/994 "2017-01-30T00:07:18Z")

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> [@Lakai](#):
>
> I don’t mention mafia because my theory is that wolves are casting suspicion on Pleo because we saw two dead wolves do it and we know wolves have a chance to coordinate strategy. I can’t make any inferences about mafia and their strategy yet until we get a dead wise guy. And I never said that no mafia voted for Pleo.
> 
> I just think there is another wolf out there also casting suspicion on Pleo and my list above narrows the suspects. Is it 100% fool proof? No, but nothing in this game is 100% fool proof. We just have to try and push the odds in our favor a little bit.
> 
> And what do you mean by cross referencing TF and Jsgoddess?

If your theory is correct, it’s likely Hooker. (I mean, it could be other people too, but he’s the first place I’d look.)  
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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> yes . Scum are likely focusing on Town for their wincon. Hitting a Scum on the other side is a bonus I think  
> so going forward Mafia will be even less concerned about Wolves since they have the numbers now.  
> Wolves, who knows.

So… you attribute both wolf deaths to mafia, but don’t think they were aiming for wolves? You think it’s a coincidence? You don’t think a mafia kill of Thingfish says anything about Pleo.

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> [@Lakai](#):
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> I don’t mention mafia because my theory is that wolves are casting suspicion on Pleo because we saw two dead wolves do it and we know wolves have a chance to coordinate strategy. I can’t make any inferences about mafia and their strategy yet until we get a dead wise guy. And I never said that no mafia voted for Pleo.
> 
> I just think there is another wolf out there also casting suspicion on Pleo and my list above narrows the suspects. Is it 100% fool proof? No, but nothing in this game is 100% fool proof. We just have to try and push the odds in our favor a little bit.
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> And what do you mean by cross referencing TF and Jsgoddess?

TF and Jsgoddess were both wolves… you point out they both were vocally suspicious of Pleo. Where else did they align? Votes? Opinions on other players?  
It would be interesting to see where they took similar stances and where they differed. Maybe start fleshing out a pattern that could lead to identifying other wolves.

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> [@paulwhoisaghost](#):
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> So… you attribute both wolf deaths to mafia, but don’t think they were aiming for wolves? You think it’s a coincidence? You don’t think a mafia kill of Thingfish says anything about Pleo.
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I forgot to say that I agree that the Mafia no longer have much incentive to specifically target wolves… I do however think that the Wolves will be looking to take down the mafia or risk falling behind.

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> [@paulwhoisaghost](#):
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> So… you attribute both wolf deaths to mafia, but don’t think they were aiming for wolves? You think it’s a coincidence? You don’t think a mafia kill of Thingfish says anything about Pleo.
> 
> k

I may be sleep dep but I know that is not what I said

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D2, both TF and JS, voted for ToeJam… though neither votes for ToeJam at all on D3. JS voted for Prof P very early on and didn’t budge… TF bounced all over the place, including on Prof P before ending on Khameleon with Meeko.

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Oooooo a twofer! Noice! I can’t figure out how that could have even happened given our known parameters. The only conclusion I can make about the extra death is it was a result of an unknown role, faction or power within a known, unknown or semi confirmed one, i.e. LUTHA.

Sorry, not sorry about **Idle**. Sucks for us that we have to work that much harder now to avoid mislynches. This is my first game in something like 9 years, and now I remember why I stopped playing. I’m very glad I came out of “retirement” for this game, but it will be my last. I’m also happy to see my legacy of colorized vote analysis lives on.

So, Hockey Monkey originated when I decided I didn’t want my user name that I signed up with anymore because I essentially still use it everywhere else and I wanted a touch more anonymity on the Dope. I had recently gone to Build a Bear and made a monkey, and dressed him in a hockey goalie uniform. (His name is Stanley and he goes with me to autograph events.) Anyway, I took the name Hockey Monkey. I wish I could show you a pic. He’s über cute.

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