# Mafia Reunion - Day Three

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 24, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068 "2017-01-24T20:43:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1001 "2017-01-30T01:01:40Z")

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> [@paulwhoisaghost](#):
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> That’s what I was thinking at the time of their tousle… that they were both scum but from different factions. I’m still suspicious of Pleo, I just think he’s mafia.
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> Anyone still want to argue with me that scum aren’t trying to kill each other? Does anyone think Thingfish was killed for posting alot and that his killer thought he was Town?
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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> yes . Scum are likely focusing on Town for their wincon. Hitting a Scum on the other side is a bonus I think  
> so going forward Mafia will be even less concerned about Wolves since they have the numbers now.  
> Wolves, who knows.

> [@paulwhoisaghost](#):
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> So… you attribute both wolf deaths to mafia, but don’t think they were aiming for wolves? You think it’s a coincidence? You don’t think a mafia kill of Thingfish says anything about Pleo.
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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> I may be sleep dep but I know that is not what I said

I ask if anyone wants to argue that scum aren’t interested in cross-killing. You say yes. That tells me that your stance is going to be that the double wolf kills were not intended as wolf kills. That you feel that scum would be aiming for town but okay with hitting opposing scum. If that’s the case, then I conclude you think the double wolf death is a coincidence… what other explanation is there? And following that logic also means that TF getting killed means the mafia thought he was town. That is who scum are targeting right? Did you say these things, no… but following the logic you presented leads me to these conclusions. … it’s easy to plant the seed without showing what fruit grows from it.

I am missing your thought process… what do you believe is the explanation for two wolf daykills?  
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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1002 "2017-01-30T01:13:02Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> If he used potatoes once, Mahaloth may well be using empowered potatoes again, though perhaps in a more deadly manner than a tie-breaker.

\*\*I have used “potatoes” from time to time, but this was not one of those kinds. \*\*

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1003 "2017-01-30T01:22:25Z")

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> [@Hockey\_Monkey](#):
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> Sorry, not sorry about **Idle**. Sucks for us that we have to work that much harder now to avoid mislynches. This is my first game in something like 9 years, and now I remember why I stopped playing. I’m very glad I came out of “retirement” for this game, but it will be my last. I’m also happy to see my legacy of colorized vote analysis lives on.

Nine years ago? Was [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=414041) the last game you played? If so, we both retired at around the same time and this is our comeback game.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1004 "2017-01-30T01:24:41Z")

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Reading over the roles (again!) I just don’t see how the Mafia could be responsible for both wolf deaths. So whether ThingFish or jsgoddess was the DayKill, I don’t see how the other was targeted by Mafia.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1005 "2017-01-30T01:30:26Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> \*\*I have used “potatoes” from time to time, but this was not one of those kinds. \*\*

Thank you very much for that clarification.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1006 "2017-01-30T02:09:51Z")

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> [@paulwhoisaghost](#):
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> Say what? This looks like you found something, but I can’t parse it.

No, it’s a joke about Google Docs. Those are the names it gives to anonymous users. Right after day ended, there were a bunch of people looking through the role document - no doubt trying to find hints about the double kill.

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1007 "2017-01-30T02:22:50Z")

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> [@Lakai](#):
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> Nine years ago? Was [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=414041) the last game you played? If so, we both retired at around the same time and this is our comeback game.

I think my last one was [The Gastard Arena](http://psychopathgame.proboards.com/board/43/gastard-arena) on Idle’s board ending Sept of 2008. 🆒

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1008 "2017-01-30T02:27:33Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Nighttime discussion topic: What is the origin of your username?

One of the first “adult” books I read as a child was _The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy_ by Douglas Adams. “Hoopy” and “Frood” are terms (both nouns) mentioned in Chapter 3 of that book.

> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I too am really bothered by DiggitCamara, especially the vote on Thing Fish for something snfaulkner, Angel, Koldenar, and I did too (maybe others. I just glanced back to get a rough idea of the number). It feels like someone grabbing something in passing and trying to make a big deal of it.
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> In short, every time I notice DG, I feel like he’s doing something weird.

> [@DiggitCamara](#):
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> Kind of feel vindicated by this post.

Well, it probably means you aren’t a wolf. I mean, I might even try to mitigate that via the whole “scum sometimes actively try to separate themselves” thing, but the fact that she snuggles a fellow wolf while indicting you either meant she was working some long con here with snuggling one wolf while distancing another, or you’re honestly not on her team. So yeah, I’m fine putting you down in the “not wolf” column.

But you still could be Mafia.

> [@HookerChemical](#):
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> Maybe, but it doesn’t mean they aren’t mafia. I still think Pleo’s case on Thing Fish is bizarre nonsense. I still don’t believe ToeJam’s claim because his claim that he self-protected N1 is either a lie or it is horrible town play.

Really? Why?

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1009 "2017-01-30T02:42:24Z")

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> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#):
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> One of the first “adult” books I read as a child was _The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy_ by Douglas Adams. “Hoopy” and “Frood” are terms (both nouns) mentioned in Chapter 3 of that book.

I’m at least a pan galactic gargle blaster in and about to move on to that old janx spirit, so I feel like this is an under explanation.  
Hoopy means really together guy. Frood means really amazingly together guy. So to use them in a phrase you might say:

You sass that Hoopy, NAF1138? He’s one Frood who really knows where his towel is.

Where sass means to know, meet, or have sex with.  
:singing : oh don’t give me no more of that old janx spirit…  
A free ad in my next vote count to the first person who can correctly explain my name.

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1010 "2017-01-30T03:00:22Z")

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Paulwhoisaghost is a reference to the Web comic “Pictures for Sad Children”. In the comic, Paul dies before the first panel and is a ghost who wears a sheet because that’s what ghosts do. It follows his tragic tale and a few others through the series. I adopted the name as a way of spreading knowledge of the Web comic. I keep using it so that people in the mafia world know who they are playing with. The Web comic has closed up shop due to apparent lack of support.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1011 "2017-01-30T03:01:13Z")

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I saw it on a t shirt that fit very nicely across the very lovely chest of a very lovely young queer with whom I worked who happened to be shagging another young queer that I had previously shagged because: queers and StarWars.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1012 "2017-01-30T03:15:05Z")

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S. Nate Faulkner is my name…want my ssn too?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1013 "2017-01-30T03:15:33Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> A free ad in my next vote count to the first person who can correctly explain my name.

Your initials plus 1138 from THX 1138?

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**Author:** ![Khameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dec6dc/32.png) [@Khameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khameleon)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1014 "2017-01-30T03:16:50Z")

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> [@HookerChemical](#):
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> Stick with it. Things get better after a couple mediocre seasons. Some of the best Star Trek episodes are DS9.

Yes, do stick with it - DS9 is my favourite Star Trek series. Garick is such an awesome character - as is Gul Dukat. Some of the Cardassians are really well fleshed out in the series.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1015 "2017-01-30T03:17:17Z")

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For those who remember and cherish our dear peekercpa, here was his telling of his name.

> [@](#):
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> i am a cpa and i have a collection of curious george dolls as a result of an incident that happened when i was really rolling.
> 
> a buddy and i won an auction where we got a private plane flight to houston to see the spurs play the rockets. so we load up the wives and use basically the whole day getting hammered beyond belief. so we get in this six seater which is stocked with all sorts of cordials which i freely engaged in. and he let smoking occur in his plane so i am basically in heaven. we are about 15 minutes into the flight when i notice this button on the window that i am sitting next to that says “do not push during flight”. my buddies wife is about 7 months preggers and my wife is really kind of just basically tolerating this nonsense. but this button is really bugging me. so, of course, i had to push it. well fuck i didn’t know what happens when a window opens about 4 - 6 inches when you are around 20k feet. fuck, sucked my beer and cig out the window. the pilot was kind of cool. he basically told us to hold on because we were going to make a rapid descent. and the whole time that we were making the blitzkreig dive towards columbus my buddy and wife are leaning over me trying to pull the damn window shut. and i was just like whoooaaaa this is a trip. i think the buddie’s wife was just trying to not go into labor.
> 
> fucking limo picked us up at the airport, we had courtside seats and the spurs won.
> 
> the pregger wife rode in front with the pilot on the way back and i did not get a window seat.
> 
> the next monday at work i had a collection of curious george dolls and memorabilia on my desk (apparantly the story had made the rounds at work). i have been peekercpa ever since.
> 
> woot woot.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1016 "2017-01-30T03:32:20Z")

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Eeps and peeps ☹

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**Author:** ![Khameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dec6dc/32.png) [@Khameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khameleon)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1017 "2017-01-30T03:43:41Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> > [@Khameleon](#):
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> > This vote feels to me like it’s being cast by someone scummy who knows my alignment is Town and has knowledge about me, possibly from an investigation or whatnot.
> > 
> > It might be OMGUS but **FOS Thing Fish**.
> 
> Snfaulkner bolded this earlier, but now that we know Thing Fish was scum, this sentence is pinging my **really** hard. It feels like hedging.

Seriously? I was right about **Thing Fish** being scummy and that makes me suspicious?

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**Author:** ![Khameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dec6dc/32.png) [@Khameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khameleon)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1018 "2017-01-30T03:47:06Z")

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I’m sorry to see **Idle** go in a game he initiated as a reunion, but I think it’s understandable why it happened. Sorry I didn’t believe you.

I really felt there was something (dog)fishy about Thing Fish - and yes, mostly for his crap reasons for voting for me.

Oops, I meant to add my previous message to this one but I somehow opened 2 tabs with the game and posted in the other, forgetting about this one. Oh well, doesn’t change what I wanted to say.

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**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1019 "2017-01-30T04:38:13Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> how? know nothing D/N1 why not self protect?

Because he wasn’t active in thread during N1. He didn’t post for the last half of D1, despite being in the running for lynch. He didn’t post N1. He didn’t post until late D2 after a mod poke.

If he is the doctor, I believe he self-protected, but I don’t believe that he is the doctor because his story doesn’t fit the activity we saw.

(On preview, I realize that you may be referring to the part where I call it horrible town play. I think it’s horrible play not because of the self protect - that makes some sense - but because he didn’t even drop in to note “I’m busy” look at the lynch leaders, or anything to play the game.)

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1020 "2017-01-30T04:43:29Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> A free ad in my next vote count to the first person who can correctly explain my name.

Is the NAF part significant beyond initials? I’m confident 1138 is a reference to THX 1138, George Lucas’s original full length film. In the movie, the character’s names are 3 letters followed by a four digits number. The main character is THX 1138.

If the NAF part has significance beyond fulfilling the format, I don’t know.

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