# Mafia Reunion - Day Three **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 24, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068 "2017-01-24T20:43:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 55
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1081 "2017-01-30T20:32:22Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Apparently no one noticed my ad for Pepperwinkle Farms awhile back. I noticed it… I just thought it was oddly humored color. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1082 "2017-01-30T20:38:03Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > I’m going to guess you’re just teasing me? But the distinction is important. > > I found you scummy for giving me three different justifications for behavior I questioned. It’s not threefold reasoning in general. > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Yes, just a tease. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![BillMC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@BillMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BillMC)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1083 "2017-01-30T21:11:01Z")
Two wolves down, so we have third party killer on the loose. With two scum teams, the voting record is less useful than usual, and jsgoddess’ list holds little water. Pleo vs Think Fish - Pleo’s case was that Thing knew something about the scum boards; but for Pleo to call that out he’d have to be scum too…staged wolf on wolf banter, mafia on wolf, or did pleo figure out something the rest of us missed. Undecided. The beta wolf seems to be a fairly limited role as the beta getting killed when the target was someone else just gets the original target lynched/killed next cycle - seems to be a role that only has value at the end game. So jsgoddess was most likely the true target. I was pretty neutral on her, need to back and look at what she posted. Given Thing’s flip, I agree this post from Khameleon is even stranger than it was on the first read. > [@Khameleon](#): > > This vote feels to me like it’s being cast by someone scummy who knows my alignment is Town and has knowledge about me, possibly from an investigation or whatnot. The only “investigative” role the scum have are the one shot watch that the omega wolf/consigliere have. “knowledge about me” is more of a bakery than a breadcrumb that Khameleon is claiming a power and did something that he thinks someone saw him do. Why did Khameleon pretty much admit he was up to something at night? over reaction to a singe vote? schoolboy error? If he is a town power, why did the mafia or 3rd party killer not take him out? Something is not adding up. Total makes a fair case on DiggitCamara in d3#1024, worthy of some further thought/discussion. My name…BillMc…pretty obvious uh? Well way back in the mid 80’s I was more of a hoopy frood and was Ford Prefect on many UK systems, but got fed up arguing with non-brits over it, I just went by my name. I also went by Colm O’Gardn during a D&D period…Colm O’Gardn, Gnome. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1084 "2017-01-30T21:23:26Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Is Walmart non-union? I worked at Meijer, a competitor, and we were union. Walmart is pretty famously about as anti union as it comes these days. If Meeko’s in the south (which I presume based on the regional supermarket from Florida), he’s probably in a right to work state. That means he has pretty much no recourse. The upshot is that three months on a job isn’t something you would want to put on a resume anyways, and isn’t a really notable break in work time that you have to explain. Good luck with finding something else better. Corporations can be really awful employers, often. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1085 "2017-01-30T21:27:56Z")
> [@BillMC](#): > > Total makes a fair case on DiggitCamara in d3#1024, worthy of some further thought/discussion. > > . I didn’t finish it. Hoping to post the rest tomorrow. I had to rush to my appointment and didn’t have the time to finish. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1086 "2017-01-30T21:36:38Z")
> [@bufftabby](#): > > My username: > > I had a rescue cat named Rufus Ruffus Buffus Johnson Brown with Feline Leukemia (that I got right before signing up for the Dope), so I knew he wasn’t especially long for the world. After his first vet trip, I noticed that his coloring was marked as “buff tabby”, and I liked that phrase quite a bit. I thought it would be nice to have something to remember him by, and it was and is. He made it another 1.5-2 years after the diagnosis, and now lives in a box in my bedroom, alongside the dog (he was really the dog’s cat anyway) and my soulmate cat, both of whom I lost in 2015. I really like your username. From the start 🙂 Also I didn’t want to jinx anything - but really looks like the Total/Buff-spell has finally been lifted for real 😃 My name is as silly as me. In Danish it means something along the lines of “Shit For Brains”. I used it when I signed up for my first mafia on the dope. Santo Rugged talked me into playing in T2 after only 2 games on facebook. I was scared as S\*\*\*. And players around me made me feel the username was very well picked. But also very fond memories. So I kept the name. Although I now prefer Total Ullz because Paul gave me Ullz as my very first nickname ever - and people IRL love it and use it all the time 🙂 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1087 "2017-01-30T22:17:21Z")
This is the first Night where I have done a check and no one is facing a mod kill or sub! Player list as I have it let me know if I made an error. Player list AngeloftheNorth BillMc Biotop Boozahol Squid, P.I. bufftabby Captain Klutz ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies crys75 Cygnus42 DiggitCamara EnderW24 Guiri Hal Briston hawkeyeop Hockey Monkey HookerChemical Hoopy Frood Idle Thoughts Inner Stickler Johnny Bravo Khameleon Koldanar Lakai LightFoot Meeko MHaye Nanook of the North Shore Nesta Paulwhoisaghost Pleonast Plumpudding Prof. Pepperwinkle Raventhief Sachertorte Scathach sinjin snfaulkner Sunny Daze Texcat Toejam Total Lost Zeriel Please, let me know if I left someone on or took someone off accidentally (lots of copy paste going on behind the scenes. ) ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1088 "2017-01-30T22:23:50Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Well you could. But you need to pay us. Typically you pay via trivia questions. But right now we are all booked. Check back once the Day has started. > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Apparently no one noticed my ad for Pepperwinkle Farms awhile back. Okay. I saw this and now I can’t un-see it. I see clearly that NAF explicitly said Paul won an ad in the game. But nowhere does he state that Prof. Pepperwinkle won an ad (I looked, but I can’t find anything along those lines). So where’s the trivia question where Prof. Pepperwinkle won his ad? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1089 "2017-01-30T22:24:29Z")
Well, Idle’s still on there. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1090 "2017-01-30T22:26:04Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > Okay. I saw this and now I can’t un-see it. I see clearly that NAF explicitly said Paul won an ad in the game. But nowhere does he state that Prof. Pepperwinkle won an ad (I looked, but I can’t find anything along those lines). So where’s the trivia question where Prof. Pepperwinkle won his ad? I didn’t know about the trivia question, so I just PM’d my ad. The Mods liked it and posted it. And that’s all there is about that. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1091 "2017-01-30T22:36:09Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > …The part of it I’m having trouble understanding is that Crys claimed LUTHA investigator. I don’t see why he thinks I am the investigator now… Crys made it sound like ALL the Lutha had that find-yer-kind type of limited investigational powers. At least to me, anyway. I guess I have to go reread all that crap AGAIN… ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1092 "2017-01-30T23:01:00Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Crys made it sound like ALL the Lutha had that find-yer-kind type of limited investigational powers. At least to me, anyway. I guess I have to go reread all that crap AGAIN… That was the impression I had; not because Crys said so, but because Sachertorte also had that power, didn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1093 "2017-01-30T23:04:38Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > That was the impression I had; not because Crys said so, but because Sachertorte also had that power, didn’t he? Okay, thanks. I missed that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1094 "2017-01-30T23:08:44Z")
D2.P913, Sachertorte’s 3P claim: > [@](#): > > I expected both brewha and Crys to die Today. > > But that isn’t the whole truth, which is why I’m up late posting. > > You all have surprised me again and again. What I expect to happen simply doesn’t. I expected everyone to realize that two lynches are better than one (OH! THE IRONY!), but many of you disagree. I expected everyone to jump on lynching Crys and brewha without a second thought, but you didn’t. Well, not both… at least not yet. Many of you did have that knee-jerk reaction, and I didn’t have any feeling that I should try and stop it. But many of you did not knee-jerk react, and thought through the situation and came to clear (and correct) conclusions about Crys. I have to say, I’m impressed. I was not expecting that to happen. > > It was mentioned earlier that in order for Town to trust the Third Party non-hostiles that we have to trust Town. That’s true, but we had no way to know how Town would react to a claim. It was nice to see a few players state they were open to a Third Party claim, but with so many players, what one player thinks and posts isn’t necessarily representative of the whole. So that leaves us with Crys. Many of you want to Lynch Crys. I expected that. Crys butchered her claim badly, and linking herself to brewha for no reason was driving me insane on Friday. Still, Crys did an unforced claim and cooler heads saw that as an indicator of truth. > > So Crys jumped in with a leap of faith. > Town has (at least so far) resisted a full on lynching of Crys (I know the day isn’t over, but that leads us to this current step in the Town\_LUTHA alliance). > > Because Town has shown restraint in assessing Crys, I will join her in claiming Third Party Cultist. > > I’ve spent the past two weeks thinking about this role, so I’ll share with you my perspectives: > > I’ve been playing as Vanilla Town. The are multiple reasons for this, not least of which it is a Handy Claim for Townies who are mean to Third Parties. My original plan was to play as Vanilla and take my role to the grave. I didn’t even use my power last Night to try and find a cultist because (1) I didn’t think it was all that necessary to know who the other cultists were via power and (2) I didn’t want to get caught up by watchers or trackers (Town or Scum). > Beyond the practicalities, the game is simply more fun for me to play as Town. I enjoy trying to figure out who is Town and who is Scum. Many of my best memories about mafia are from situations where I figured something out and was right, even if we ended up losing in the end. Some have expressed concern that as Third Party we could try and win with Scum, and I have given that scenario much thought as well. At the endgame, should scum be winning, I can see it would be tempting to try and win with the Scum. I tried to think of how that would play out, and while there are a few feasible scenarios, it requires scum to be on the cusp of winning (LyLo) and for scum to trust the cultists enough to form a public voting bloc. Also, I’d expect us to be wary of scum (especially Mafia with the day kill) stabbing us in the back. I get the Townie Paranoia though, I’ve been there. > Speaking of paranoia, I do have a bit of paranoia about their being a different third party that wants to kill cultists, but I try to dismiss that since we were not given any indication of danger and that would just be sucky anyway (survivor role sucks pretty bad already, btw). > The other thought I had was that winning with scum would be more difficult. At best, scum win at final 14 with a perfect game. Realistically, I think the soonest scum will win is at final 6-8. That means 3 scum to 3 non-scum or 4 scum to 4 non-scum. The chances of a cultist being one of those 3 or 4 non-scum is dishearteningly small. Town is harder to assess how quick they could win, but they at least have the ability to win quick even if the probability of a very fast win is low. > > As for breadcrumbs, I did leave two. On Night Zero I made reference to the Survivor third party role and use wording that came from the cultist role PM. Something about a previous game and how a survivor managed to get Town to leave her alone (I’m not looking up the quotes). The second was Day One I think. I asked the mods a question about whether or not I should see Rogue One on Martin Luther King Day. The Luther was supposed to be a signal to Lutha. But either no one saw it or no one cared. I have not been in contact with any other LUTHAs. > > I hope that my claim will corroborate Crys story and alleviate some of your suspicion on Crys regarding Crys’s choices and behavior. > > Now I wonder how you’ll react. I bet it will be a surprise. > > {And I still think multi-lynch is pro town. Even if you use it on Crys or me. It’s super bad for cultists, but it is good for town} > > I have a terrible vote on brewha. I was trying to blend in, which was the wrong thing to do, but hopefully understandable given the circumstances of the time. > unvote Brewha > vote ToeJam The advantages of taking notes. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1095 "2017-01-30T23:11:52Z")
quoting the relevant snip from the above: “I’ve been playing as Vanilla Town. The are multiple reasons for this, not least of which it is a Handy Claim for Townies who are mean to Third Parties. My original plan was to play as Vanilla and take my role to the grave. \*\*I didn’t even use my power last Night to try and find a cultist \*\*because (1) I didn’t think it was all that necessary to know who the other cultists were via power and (2) I didn’t want to get caught up by watchers or trackers (Town or Scum).” ---
**Author:** ![AngeloftheNorth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelofthenorth/32/19559_2.png) [@AngeloftheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngeloftheNorth)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1096 "2017-01-30T23:16:08Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > D2.P913, Sachertorte’s 3P claim: > > The advantages of taking notes. Thank you! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1097 "2017-01-30T23:31:39Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > But also very fond memories. So I kept the name. Although I now prefer Total Ullz because Paul gave me Ullz as my very first nickname ever - and people IRL love it and use it all the time 🙂 > > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Now that this is explained I intend to stop calling you Total as it feels odd to me when I know you as Ullz or Ulla. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1098 "2017-01-30T23:35:05Z")
> [@AngeloftheNorth](#): > > Okay, thanks. I missed that. > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Well crap… I’ll have to go reread your posts on the whole cultists fiasco now. If you missed this I think I can comprehend your position a little better. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1099 "2017-01-31T00:49:40Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > Walmart is pretty famously about as anti union as it comes these days. If Meeko’s in the south (which I presume based on the regional supermarket from Florida), he’s probably in a right to work state. That means he has pretty much no recourse. The upshot is that three months on a job isn’t something you would want to put on a resume anyways, and isn’t a really notable break in work time that you have to explain. Good luck with finding something else better. Corporations can be really awful employers, often. Georgia. And it is ““Right to work””. Which, has to be the most oxymoronic title ever. . Yeah. I’ve been leaving it off. I have my job from before that (That I quit, to take the Walmart job… Wal mart was paying basically 3-4 times more, part time minimum, to 10 and change and full time. … The problem here, is that, that job wouldn’t take me back. 15-20 hours at $7.75 … No love lost.) … Even though that job was only two months tenure. … I had a season al job with Home Depot before that. … Three W-2’s for 2016, and I’ve been unemployed since before Halloween. I’m 34. I would prefer not to state where I am moving to. :(:(☹ ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1100 "2017-01-31T02:02:48Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > I’m 34. I would prefer not to state where I am moving to. :(:(☹ Dude, if it is moving in with your parents, no shame in that. When life knocks you down, take what you can. I think it may be possible to leave off a 3 month job from a resume. If asked, you can mention you worked one small job and that it didn’t work out. I have had a couple friends work for Amazon in one of their warehouses. Zero idea if any available ones are in Georgia, though. Ever try that? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068.md?page=54) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068.md?page=56)