# Mafia Reunion - Day Three

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**Created:** [January 24, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068 "2017-01-24T20:43:30Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/1028 "2017-01-30T13:31:26Z")

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> [@Khameleon](#):
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> Seriously? I was right about **Thing Fish** being scummy and that makes me suspicious?

First of all, you were not “right” about anything. You made what you admitted at the time was an OMGUS vote. Let’s look at the interaction again.

Thing Fish voted for you in D3#638. First he says that ToeJam is probably lying scum. Then he says that ProfP should be a lynch contender rather than Idle. Then he says he did a reread on you.

> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> I did a reread on **Khameleon**. I don’t have time to do a full WoW right now (not that it would take long, his first post Today just took him all the way up to 13 posts), but it’s almost all fluff and discussion of game mechanics. He didn’t vote Day One and voted for Brewha Day Two.

More on this in a moment. Let’s look at Meeko’s vote on you in D3#319

> [@Meeko](#):
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> Khameleons blend in, right? Can I poke the Khameleon with a stick? Will it show it’s true colors if I do? 😛

Meeko’s vote actually kind of sucked, he never followed up on it, and it stayed on you through the end of the day. So here’s your response to Thing Fish’s vote:

> [@Khameleon](#):
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> Okay, so I felt that **Meeko’s** vote on me was fair as it was primarily a poke for not being very active in the game. But your vote **Thing Fish** feels different. Almost all fluff? I haven’t posted much because I don’t want to post fluff - your definition of fluff must be really different than mine. And I voted for **Brewha** , along with how many others? A vote on a player who was caught in a lie? The discussion of how the switched work was a legitimate discussion and did get us some clarification from the mods. This vote feels to me like it’s being cast by someone scummy who knows my alignment is Town and has knowledge about me, possibly from an investigation or whatnot.
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> It might be OMGUS but **FOS Thing Fish**.

Meeko’s vote is fair even though he basically ghosted after placing it. But Thing Fish, who built a (weak) case, is apparently scummy for building it.

But it’s **this** line that makes you look suspicious.

**This vote feels to me like it’s being cast by someone scummy who knows my alignment is Town and has knowledge about me, possibly from an investigation or whatnot.**

This makes no sense at all. Scum really couldn’t care less what alignment you are - they need to kill everyone who isn’t on their team. And there’s nothing in his post that would suggest he somehow knows you’re Town rather than a cultist or a Mafioso.

No, that entire post feels manufactured. It 100% sounds like you’re creating an opportunity to a) declare that you’re town and b) do so in a conversation with someone that you know will someDay flip scum.

Then you vote for him. So now he’s got a safe/worthless vote on you and you’ve got a safe/worthless vote on him. This is a pretty common scum tactic. Manufacture a little scuffle between teammates, get some pro-town votes on the record.

And then, the cherry on all of this is your response to my comment about pinging:

> [@Khameleon](#):
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> Seriously? I was right about **Thing Fish** being scummy and that makes me suspicious?

This is you taking credit for something that you can’t reasonably take credit for. The only way you were “right about Thing Fish being scummy” in the context of your exchange is if we agree that you knew it all along.

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