# Mafia Reunion - Day Three

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**Created:** [January 24, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068 "2017-01-24T20:43:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-reunion-day-three/778068/169 "2017-01-25T19:08:43Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> so you are forming opinions with out actually having all the evidence- \* brilliant !\* so your following comments will now be flawed

Welcome to the game of mafia! But seriously, I’m spending as much time as I can on this game. I either post after skimming, or not post after skimming.

> [@LightFoot](#):
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> > My votes, in no particular order, except the firstest is the mostest.  
> > 1-vote Thing Fish for revealing that Scum do not learn the identity of everyone on their team on their secret board in D1.253.  
> > 2vote Idle Thoughts for the meta-reason of typically lurking when scum.  
> > 3vote Scathach for scolding a player for being too helpful to Town in D1.35.  
> > 4vote Johnny Bravo for being too defensive and misrepresenting another’s case in D1.265.  
> > 5vote Plumpudding for refusing to vote when called on it in D1.401.  
> > 6vote Meeko for admitting that they deliberately want their posts to be difficult to parse.
> > 
> > I have no real opinion on ToeJam.
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> votes  
> 1- what? how do you get that from [This post?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19907997&postcount=253) and you started it  
> 2-fair  
> 3- on D3 you are voing for a post D1 post 35-- nothing better since?  
> 4-5-- see 3, really nothing better has come up?  
> 6- meh
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> it appears all your Scum leans are based on Day One- it is Day Three.

**Thing Fish** said “It reads to me like you could be scum advising your teammates on how to play and/or hinting to them that you are that seventh guy who didn’t show up to chat”. That implicitly states that Scum do not learn the identity of all their teammates on their secret board. Otherwise, why would a Scum player need to hint they were the seventh guy who didn’t show up to chat?

Only a player who has read a secret board would know it doesn’t reveal all their teammates. It’s not stated anywhere in the rules. Thus, **Thing Fish** has revealed they’ve read a Scum secret board, and so must be Scum. This is a slam-dunk case of perfect information slippage.

Of course I started the conversation! That’s the whole point of discussing Scum–so that they inadvertently make mistakes when discussing themselves.

I’m not sure why you’re trying to downplay evidence from an earlier Day.

> [@paulwhoisaghost](#):
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> My vote was based on my understanding that you were for lynching the cultists. Your explanation of that stance makes me less comfortable voting for you as my reasoning was that anyone wanting to lynch the cultists is promoting an action that benefits scum. I thought that was pretty clear. My understanding of your stance now I’d that we should leave the cultists alone for now, but you do see a point at which it may be necessary. Can you flesh out when you think that would be likely?
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> I still think that there is a good chance one of the players promoting lynching the cultists is scum trying to further their own agenda. But I am no longer comfortable with my vote. I’ll have to back through D2 and D3 so far with that in mind, but I have to go work now.

Lynching claimed cultists ToDay is anti-Town, because even if they’re lying they can’t win now and we really need to eliminate Scum. Anyone advocating lynching them ToDay is not helping us, but could be Scum or misguided Town.

Lynching cultists when 1) at least one has been alignment-verified, 2) exactly five players are known cultists, and 3) they can cross-confirm membership so no Scum could falsely claim membership, would be anti-Town and extremely pro-Scum. Anyone advocating lynching them at that point is definitely Scum.

If one or more of the conditions in the previous paragraph has not been met, and we’ve eliminated a good number of Scum (maybe half of them, but we’ll be in a better place to evaluate later), then we’ll have to start considering that their claim is false. And likely start lynching them.

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